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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
I had no problems with stream, and when I did have problem, I had to refresh a few times to get it back to super quality with no lag. Casters where absolutely amazing, cant complain at all, and InControl doing his thing is mandatory in any event imo, it really makes it seem more fun, and not so serious, reminding that this is a fun joyful event. | ||
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Killcani
Sweden448 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:11 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: And you consider those stories worth 25% of the tournament and us having to have best of 3's in the semi and quarter finals? This can be fixed by using GSLs group system. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:15 Killcani wrote: This can be fixed by using GSLs group system. And then play the first knockout round of day 1? If that works out for time I'd be okay with that. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:11 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: And you consider those stories worth 25% of the tournament and us having to have best of 3's in the semi and quarter finals? I consider them worth 100% of the tournament, since that's what the tournament is all about, hence why it's called the DreamHack Open. If you want endless invite only tournaments, that's fine. Some of us would rather have Opens. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:18 Lonyo wrote: I consider them worth 100% of the tournament, since that's what the tournament is all about, hence why it's called the DreamHack Open. If you want endless invite only tournaments, that's fine. Some of us would rather have Opens. MLG wasn't invite only. | ||
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TheSir
1830 Posts
- NASL stream, just brilliant to have another high quality stream besides the mainstream and NASL is always a good bet. Bitterdam always deliver, huge props to them and everyone else at NASL. NASL and Dreamhack are a prefect match. - Community streams, some weren't up to DH quality production (DH make a overlay next time so all community streams can use the same) but as always i appreciate the hard work those streamers do. - 720p 60fps mainstream was great, shame twitch cant handle the load they now a days often get but the stream quality was once again great. - Casters and hosts did a great job as usual. Fun interviews, good casting, good observing etc etc. - Dreamhack sound guy, awesome dude! - New main stage looked sick and a great show overall. - Sick crowd and the roof blew off the building a couple of times. - TL LR thread in the early quieter hours of the day Negative: - No player cams on screen in the Ro8, essential for me as a viewer. Those eye shots we saw a couple of times doesn't really work and looked like well thats all we can do. - The overlay didn't do it for me, i dont like it. Some game you didn't even see it was a Dreamhack game cause the logo in the middle of the map (sweet feature) wasn't shown once because the map was big and players didn't use the middle. Scoreboard and mineral info on the bottom sucks, very bad way to show information and ill keep whining about it. There is a reason why almost all sports use scoreboards at he the top of the screen. - Inconsistency with Gameheart features, some games we saw team logo's on the map and other games we didn't. - Player colors, there were times that the player colors switched between maps and it can be confusing as fuck. - No couch in the middle of the crowd, interviews after the match on a couch gives a more relaxed and less rushed vibe and make players look more comfortable cause almost every player is awkward as fuck to look at on stage/interviews. - Stop doing interviews before matches, its stupid and dont make them walk through the crowd. Just introduce them one by one on the stage, let them shake hands and let them go in the booths. And here we go again, there is a reason why this (interviews before a match) doesn't happen in other sports. You think Jon Jones wanted to do a interview right before he walked in the octagon last night to smash Chael's head in? Hmmm nope, so just stop it. But i had a great weekend and i know im nitpicking for the most part but if you show high standards like DH does, all there is left to criticize are small things. | ||
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zmsFlood
Finland169 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:25 TheSir wrote: Positive: - NASL stream, just brilliant to have another high quality stream besides the mainstream and NASL is always a good bet. Bitterdam always deliver, huge props to them and everyone else at NASL. NASL and Dreamhack are a prefect match. - Community streams, some weren't up to DH quality production (DH make a overlay next time so all community streams can use the same) but as always i appreciate the hard work those streamers do. - 720p 60fps mainstream was great, shame twitch cant handle the load they now a days often get but the stream quality was once again great. - Casters and hosts did a great job as usual. Fun interviews, good casting, good observing etc etc. - Dreamhack sound guy, awesome dude! - New main stage looked sick and a great show overall. - Sick crowd and the roof blew off the building a couple of times. - TL LR thread in the early quieter hours of the day Negative: - No player cams on screen in the Ro8, essential for me as a viewer. Those eye shots we saw a couple of times doesn't really work and looked like well thats all we can do. - The overlay didn't do it for me, i dont like it. Some game you didn't even see it was a Dreamhack game cause the logo in the middle of the map (sweet feature) wasn't shown once because the map was big and players didn't use the middle. Scoreboard and mineral info on the bottom sucks, very bad way to show information and ill keep whining about it. There is a reason why almost all sports use scoreboards at he the top of the screen. - Inconsistency with Gameheart features, some games we saw team logo's on the map and other games we didn't. - Player colors, there were times that the player colors switched between maps and it can be confusing as fuck. - No couch in the middle of the crowd, interviews after the match on a couch gives a more relaxed and less rushed vibe and make players look more comfortable cause almost every player is awkward as fuck to look at on stage/interviews. - Stop doing interviews before matches, its stupid and dont make them walk through the crowd. Just introduce them one by one on the stage, let them shake hands and let them go in the booths. And here we go again, there is a reason why this (interviews before a match) doesn't happen in other sports. You think Jon Jones wanted to do a interview right before he walked in the octagon last night to smash Chael's head in? Hmmm nope, so just stop it. But i had a great weekend and i know im nitpicking for the most part but if you show high standards like DH does, all there is left to criticize are small things. Wat? Without interviews before the match, we would of never had the infamous "Fuck You" from FruitDealer. That is worth a million terrible awkward interviews to get that one super hype moment that everyone cheers for. | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On April 28 2013 23:15 Daumen wrote: Since some time now ive been checking out the Crowd cheers on events (on the stream). Ever since everyone said that Katowice had such a great crowd, I noticed that this DreamHack had an AWESOME crowd especially compared to the last German event in Hannover wich was very dismal -.- (No idea if we Germans are less Cheery or if the Production Crew didnt set up the mics in a way that would allow the crowds cheer to be heard on stream). But in the last years DreamHack and in the one before, the Swedish crowd used to Cheer to Korean Statements before they were translated, that was awesome and funny ;D It didnt happen this time ;< German crowds simply suck. It's pathetic, no matter what you watch or listen to, there's so little enthusiasm... I've been to countless concerts, festivals and even two esports-events and although it's far, far, far worse for the latter (smelly, fat, unwashed nerd-clichés with stony faces and an absolute ineptitude for the English language), even at Rock am Ring people severely lack passion. It's sad that the only thing that gets German crowds really emotional is football. | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:25 TheSir wrote: - The overlay didn't do it for me, i dont like it. Some game you didn't even see it was a Dreamhack game cause the logo in the middle of the map (sweet feature) wasn't shown once because the map was big and players didn't use the middle. Scoreboard and mineral info on the bottom sucks, very bad way to show information and ill keep whining about it. There is a reason why almost all sports use scoreboards at he the top of the screen. Why is that? I thought it was the nicest SC2 overlay ever. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:32 kafkaesque wrote: German crowds simply suck. It's pathetic, no matter what you watch or listen to, there's so little enthusiasm... I've been to countless concerts, festivals and even two esports-events and although it's far, far, far worse for the latter (smelly, fat, unwashed nerd-clichés with stony faces and an absolute ineptitude for the English language), even at Rock am Ring people severely lack passion. It's sad that the only thing that gets German crowds really emotional is football. Same with England. Our football atmosphere's are pretty good (not Eastern European, Turkey or Argentina good) but good for Western Europe but at Esports event we're pretty flat. Are football crowds in Germany that good outside of the Ruhr? I've never been impressed with Bayern's atmosphere. Perhaps you need more events in Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund? Also your Esports events are almost always at Cebit type events which are always crap for atmosphere no matter where they're held. | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
Free HD stream Fantastic casters Good Crowd Entertaining DJ during breaks Good distribution of races and countries Good timing (during weekend etc) Double stream High quality production and useful time stamps/schedule/brackets Entertaining extra content / hype content 120k+ Viewers Cons: Highly biased especially near the end with the casters (I know its the easiest way to build hype to support the local country men but I feel it was over the top and alienating to the koreans) Possibly a better tournament system (they ended up literally flipping a coin to decide who got through for Luci, Yugioh and Strelok) | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:37 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: Are football crowds in Germany that good outside of the Ruhr? I don't know, as I don't follow football. But the folks at Schalke (Gelsenkirchen) and Dortmund always seem to have a blast. Should be similar for non-Ruhr areas. Back to Dreamhack: Pros: +Apollo and Artosis +awesome players +sick production +lower downtimes +fucking hilarious host +lots and lots of content +NASL-inclusion +enthusiastic crowd +great games (though, to be fair, this is barely a credit to Dreamhack) Cons: - felt a little rushed at times, I'd have preferred a three-day-event | ||
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:32 kafkaesque wrote: German crowds simply suck. It's pathetic, no matter what you watch or listen to, there's so little enthusiasm... I've been to countless concerts, festivals and even two esports-events and although it's far, far, far worse for the latter (smelly, fat, unwashed nerd-clichés with stony faces and an absolute ineptitude for the English language), even at Rock am Ring people severely lack passion. It's sad that the only thing that gets German crowds really emotional is football. I agree so much with that last part that I had to make it bigger. --- Also: about DreamHack: I rly liked Artosis this time, normally I dont rly like or dislike him, I see him as one of the top casters but at this Event he rly shined (for me) and was awesome, maybe it was the Apollo+Artosis combo? Im not sure, yet he was pure awesome that weekend! | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Wpgstevo
Canada79 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:32 kafkaesque wrote: German crowds simply suck. It's pathetic, no matter what you watch or listen to, there's so little enthusiasm... I've been to countless concerts, festivals and even two esports-events and although it's far, far, far worse for the latter (smelly, fat, unwashed nerd-clichés with stony faces and an absolute ineptitude for the English language), even at Rock am Ring people severely lack passion. It's sad that the only thing that gets German crowds really emotional is football. http://www.homerj.de/index.php?show=vods&play=3418 Not always true, although this tournament is the only expection i can think of. Specially that game. Having GoOdy in the grandfinals might have helped too. | ||
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Op
73 Posts
The whole event was great. I especially liked the fact that community streams helped to broadcast the games on the 1st day, so it was possible to watch almost any match you like. The only point of improvement here is that it is difficult to keep up on when which game will be played, whether it will be streamed and where. Some points which could be improved in my opinion: - It would be great if streamers would be able to announce via some common place (could be twitter as someone else proposed) which match will be coming up next on their channel, so you can go to the channel which has the match you would like to see. Or have some kind of dashboard on the web site with the streams and which games they are/will be casting - I was rather disappointed when the DreamHack main stream ended on the first day, while there were still many games to be played in other groups and without giving an update on who advanced from the different groups For the rest the whole thing was great, please keep up the good work ! | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On April 29 2013 00:48 Daumen wrote: I agree so much with that last part that I had to make it bigger. This statement is so blatantly wrong, that it hurts me physically. Video game tournaments should not be held at expos, and ESL/IEM rightfully suffer for their stupidity to continue this, but pretending that german crowds are bad in general is amazingly ignorant. Look at LCS, where the german crowd actually gets excited because the production is good. SC2 has got really disappointing production quality, considering where it started in 2010 and where it SHOULD be by now. I wouln't get excited for the joke of a production that IEM events offer. But if you want to keep ignoring facts and come off as a racist douche, be my guest. | ||
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