EPTHope they are planning to give Protoss something in return for this.
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Vamp
United Kingdom184 Posts
Hope they are planning to give Protoss something in return for this. | ||
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Brotocol
243 Posts
On October 24 2011 21:05 Teiwaz wrote: Ah, yes. That one. Removing ALL shields AND ALL energy from my units was just so retarded OP that I completely wiped that from my memory. They should go on and start nerfing that Snipe (cost more or less damage). And when they're at it, reduce that range so it matches Infestors/HT's - only then the Ghost will be a balanced unit IMO. If you ask me, Ghosts got downgraded from "overkill" to "just OP." EMP still does gigantic damage + energy drain + reveals cloak + higher range than other casts + comes from T2-ish tech route. There's no way that Terran got the same treatment Protoss has. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On October 24 2011 21:06 Vamp wrote: Quite a big change "if" it happens. Hope they are planning to give Protoss something in return for this. You mean you haven't seen any of the other numerous changes to the toss in the expansion? | ||
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twiitar
Germany372 Posts
White-Ra must have impressed them deeply! | ||
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Vamp
United Kingdom184 Posts
On October 24 2011 21:07 grobo wrote: You mean you haven't seen any of the other numerous changes to the toss in the expansion? Nothings for certain yet. | ||
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mage36
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Brotocol
243 Posts
On October 24 2011 21:07 grobo wrote: You mean you haven't seen any of the other numerous changes to the toss in the expansion? Looks like you've only been reading the "positive comments only!" thread. The threads that don't censor the discussion have shown an enormous lack of confidence in what P is being given. Multitudes of reasons were given. It's consistent with the quote in my sig. David Kim doesn't concede that P should be "given something in return." So why should we expect anything in return? | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On October 24 2011 21:06 Brotocol wrote: There's no way that Terran got the same treatment Protoss has. Look at the precious graph you posted earlier, protoss hasn't suffered nearly as much as the Zerg has, the gap in the ZvT graph is of cosmic proportions. You seriously need to realize that Toss is not the only race that has been suffering. | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
exactly, so why bother crying about this change then  ? | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
Yes, this change does remove gimmicky protoss play. But hello? Have you ever played protoss? Gimmicky play is what the race is all about and it's what I enjoy about it. Forcefielding ramps, blink stalkers all-ins, proxy DTs, you might hate those tactics, but I'm happy they're in the game as they reward ingenuity. Even the new expansion units are purely gimmicky, do what gives Blizzard? Just nerf offensive warp-ins by adding vulnerability to units that are warping in instead of making pylons impossible to use in fun and clever ways. | ||
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TwilightStar
United States649 Posts
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Brotocol
243 Posts
On October 24 2011 21:10 grobo wrote: Look at the precious graph you posted earlier, protoss hasn't suffered nearly as much as the Zerg has, the gap in the ZvT graph is of cosmic proportions. You seriously need to realize that Toss is not the only race that has been suffering. I already realized that Zerg suffered before. So what's your point? | ||
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supraWman
Germany453 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On October 24 2011 21:14 Brotocol wrote: I already realized that Zerg suffered before. So what's your point? My point is that, as mentioned before, everyone is going to go through that stage, i played zerg during the first year of SC2 (random now), trust me when i tell you that i've been pissed at blizzard more than enough. But it's stupid to think that blizzard is just holding out on some "fix-it-all"-patch because they want toss to be shit and terran to be superior. | ||
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sitromit
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robih
Austria1084 Posts
with the warpprism gaining popularity i rarely see a lowground pylon used except for some voidray allins | ||
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Ammoth
Sweden391 Posts
Weird change imo either way. | ||
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Brotocol
243 Posts
On October 24 2011 21:17 grobo wrote: My point is that, as mentioned before, everyone is going to go through that stage, i played zerg during the first year of SC2 (random now), trust me when i tell you that i've been pissed at blizzard more than enough. But it's stupid to think that blizzard is just holding out on some "fix-it-all"-patch because they want toss to be shit and terran to be superior. Oh, they're not holding out on anything. There's nothing intentional about it. But Blizzard just has a completely distorted view on balance. We are lucky as hell that they use statistics, imho they are the only thing keeping a minimum of balance. David Kim's own ideas and reasoning are completely off the mark. | ||
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Slipspace
United States381 Posts
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