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Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 21 2011 19:12 GMT
#2521
On October 22 2011 04:11 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 04:09 zeehar wrote:
On October 22 2011 04:07 Grummler wrote:
On October 22 2011 03:39 galivet wrote:
The new protoss units don't sound very fun to me.

Replicant:
If I wanted to use zerg or terran units, I would play zerg or terran. These things sound like such a pain in the ass to micro: Have to get it melee range of an enemy unit, cast the spell, then get away without losing the replicant. Seems very micro-intensive, especially against concussive shell. So to me this unit sounds like a big APM-dump that I can use to do something that I can also achieve just by changing my race before the match starts.


Ok, so maybe i am dumb, but i dont get your post.

1. The Replicant allows you to use your enemy units in combination with your own. Changing to Terran limits your unit choice to pure terran, picking zerg allows you to control your enemy units for a very short amount of time. So "just changing my race" doesnt work.

2. You dont need to get in melee range.

But maybe its not me who is dumb.


according to askjoshy, they do have to get into melee range.

Replicants in the gameplay trailer were able to copy siege tanks up a ramp with a full wall of marines between them, though.


Could have been something they did just for the video. We'll have to wait for the actual dev panel at 3pm PST
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
October 21 2011 19:12 GMT
#2522
Omg the trailer...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG_3R9BoVvg&feature=youtu.be
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
October 21 2011 19:12 GMT
#2523
no carriers, mothership ? wtf ? so many changes its starcraft 3
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
October 21 2011 19:12 GMT
#2524
Hopefully protoss gets some more stuff. o_O
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 21 2011 19:12 GMT
#2525
On October 22 2011 04:11 BlackGosu wrote:
so guys, is the reverse dark swarm like defilers or like corsairs? im not getting it...

As far as we know, it's disruption web.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 19:13:28
October 21 2011 19:13 GMT
#2526
On October 22 2011 04:06 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 04:05 XRaDiiX wrote:
What's funny is im seeing alot of Complaints from Terran and Protoss but you guys got 3 new units Zerg only got 2 .

HOTS looking to be awesome ....

Toss lost at least 2, though. Net gain of 1, same for Z.


You Do Realise Protoss initially had around 4-5 more unique units compared to Zergs number of Unique Units.

I just noticed in the Polls 90% of the Zerg were happy with their 2 new units. While the Protoss and Protoss were 50% satisfied and the Terran 35%-65% i think.

Just saying the polls show you guys aren't as satisifed as Zergs but you got more *new* units i'm not referring to Net Gain (since you already had way many more unique Units in WOL)
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Mrbustanut
Profile Joined May 2010
121 Posts
October 21 2011 19:13 GMT
#2527
I can see myself doing a shedder drop into the mineral line =)

Terran Reaver anyone?
DarkQ
Profile Joined July 2011
30 Posts
October 21 2011 19:13 GMT
#2528
HOLY SHIT

The recall and the Shild in the Nexus..... thats going to be so good at lategame, where Cronoboost is so weak ♥
D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
October 21 2011 19:13 GMT
#2529
On October 22 2011 04:09 mrtomjones wrote:
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On October 22 2011 03:57 Whitewing wrote:
Man, that Viper grap + neural parasite is going to SUCK for toss.

You built 6 colossi? Well he's got 6 infestors and 6 vipers. Now they're zerg units. It also just makes using high tech units pointless.

Yah... it would completely counter ANY unit that it wanted to..... its ridiculous..


Protoss hasn't been doing colosus vs zerg for a while. Its 6 gate deny third into templar tech. Teh grappel takes 100 energy and the viper takes how much gas? Infestor +Energy upgrade + NP upgrade + Viper and waiting for energy. By that time you'll be able to hit a sick timing with storms and FF's. Shouldn't worry about it too much.
wot?
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
October 21 2011 19:13 GMT
#2530
On October 22 2011 01:06 Onox wrote:
Viper looks interesting, although I don't like the idea of an ability that pulls units.


It's Death Grip all over again haha.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 21 2011 19:13 GMT
#2531
On October 22 2011 04:12 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 04:11 BlackGosu wrote:
so guys, is the reverse dark swarm like defilers or like corsairs? im not getting it...

As far as we know, it's disruption web.


It's a little more powerful than disruption web. It appears to not only prevent any units under it from executing range attacks, but ALSO prevents CASTING.

So no storm. no stim. no fungal growth. if you are under that spell.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 21 2011 19:14 GMT
#2532
On October 22 2011 04:11 BlackGosu wrote:
so guys, is the reverse dark swarm like defilers or like corsairs? im not getting it...

Sounds like disruption web
Jaedong.
Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States535 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 19:15:40
October 21 2011 19:14 GMT
#2533
On October 22 2011 04:12 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 04:08 Roe wrote:
On October 22 2011 04:05 XRaDiiX wrote:
im seeing alot of Complaints from Terran and Protoss but you guys got 3 new units Zerg only got 2 .

HOTS looking to be awesome ....

i dont get why after a few hours people still think that hellion transforming is a new unit

because... it is? Is the baneling a new unit? Yes.


It's not a new unit, you don't consider an unsieged tank and a sieged tank two separate units do you? Because with the hellion it's the same principle.
Live it up.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
October 21 2011 19:14 GMT
#2534
On October 22 2011 04:10 J.E.G. wrote:
also, new trailer


at 1:07 it seems the queen have infested one building and shoots another for alot dmg. O.O
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
October 21 2011 19:14 GMT
#2535
Wait wait wait from someone's twitter the viper costs 200 gas? So for zerg to have mobile detection he needs 200 gas?

If it stays this way dts can deny a zergs third for a loooong time :/
Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
October 21 2011 19:15 GMT
#2536
Protoss harass unit stops them from mining. Terran get another harass unit that can 2 shot a mineral line
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Avan
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil121 Posts
October 21 2011 19:15 GMT
#2537
On October 22 2011 04:07 Lunares wrote:


for anyone who missed it.


So... Now I'm 100% sure Protoss is damned.
"I have never tasted Death, Zeratul. Nor shall I". Liquid'HerO FIGHTING!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 21 2011 19:15 GMT
#2538
On October 22 2011 04:14 NeonFox wrote:
Wait wait wait from someone's twitter the viper costs 200 gas? So for zerg to have mobile detection he needs 200 gas?

If it stays this way dts can deny a zergs third for a loooong time :/

Personally, I'm okay with that.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
J.E.G.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States389 Posts
October 21 2011 19:15 GMT
#2539
It looks like there is a lot more micro intensive abilities which may raise skill ceiling
Do or do not; there is no try.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
October 21 2011 19:15 GMT
#2540
that we are getting new units is cool, it's really much appreciated. Honestly though, I'm not feeling the new units except the protoss. The flying defiler looks a bit retarded even, but what counts is how they look ingame so gonna wait on judging them.
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