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perestain
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany308 Posts
October 20 2011 11:42 GMT
#321
On October 20 2011 20:08 Eviscerador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 19:30 iNViCiOUZ wrote:
God thanks for Battlefield 3.
I am not going to play this map-pool anymore...

Because BF3 and SC2 are related games...

I find this amusing, I'm sure most people posting here don't have skill enough to blame the maps for imbalance, but they rant because the mainstream "wanna be pros" in TL do.

I'm glad you are hardcore gamers (well, people saying won't play because of maps doesn't seem too hardcore for me) but remember for every master player, there are 50 casual gamers, which enjoy current maps, or just doesn't care nor have skill to care about them.

Blizzard could do better, and there are some maps which are better than others for sure. But saying the map pool sucks it is just too much imo.


Its quite cheap and arrogant to claim that people should not be entitled to an opinion about the ladder maps because they are not grandmaster or pro level. Even if its too much for you to grasp, people can very well tell if they enjoy a game or not at any level.

And there is not a single good reason for anyone not play on tournaments maps.

No matter how hot it gets, sooner or later there's a cool breeze coming in.
ProxySilmaril
Profile Joined June 2011
81 Posts
October 20 2011 11:42 GMT
#322
May Blizz has to make a poll for the 2 maps the people like to have replaced.

For me the most hated maps as toss are backwater gulch and searing crater. Backwater is no fun for me and searing crater is just imbalance in my opinion!
wolfi
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany9 Posts
October 20 2011 11:43 GMT
#323
On October 20 2011 18:24 Slyce wrote:
Not sure why there is so much love for Metalopolis in this thread.

It was rubbish! unless you played zerg... Then it was just funny.

But seriously, a very bad map.

I love Metalopolis!

Yes, I´m only silver - but I paid Blizzard as much money for the game as any other high-level player. And I know that tons of bronze, silver and gold player also love Metalopolis.
It is a lot of fun to play. If it is not balanced, let´s change it a bit. But I don´t like it, that it was removed completely.

Most new maps are all very similar from my point of (silver-)view...
Gaming is a lifestyle - not a crime
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
October 20 2011 11:48 GMT
#324
On October 20 2011 20:08 Eviscerador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 19:30 iNViCiOUZ wrote:
God thanks for Battlefield 3.
I am not going to play this map-pool anymore...

Because BF3 and SC2 are related games...

I find this amusing, I'm sure most people posting here don't have skill enough to blame the maps for imbalance, but they rant because the mainstream "wanna be pros" in TL do.

I'm glad you are hardcore gamers (well, people saying won't play because of maps doesn't seem too hardcore for me) but remember for every master player, there are 50 casual gamers, which enjoy current maps, or just doesn't care nor have skill to care about them.

Blizzard could do better, and there are some maps which are better than others for sure. But saying the map pool sucks it is just too much imo.


You know everyone doesn't only argue about something for their own sake, I want the ladder to have tournament maps so that the pros can have an easier time practicing. And a lot of people just find it fun to play on the same maps that they see the pros play on when they watch tournaments, you can try their strategies for that map etc.
kYem
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom412 Posts
October 20 2011 11:50 GMT
#325
I feel like it's time to let go xel'naga at least...
Hell
Remb
Profile Joined August 2011
United States190 Posts
October 20 2011 11:51 GMT
#326
I agree 100%. I enjoy watching the pro players in these GSL maps that encourage [usually] macro games. And when I go to casually ladder, I have to deal with close by ground spawns, wide open naturals, and 3rds that are literally surrounded by high ground.
A virtuous act is performed habitually, and not once from incentive alone.
Sanchonator
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia490 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 11:53:33
October 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#327
On October 20 2011 20:50 kYem wrote:
I feel like it's time to let go xel'naga at least...


xelnaga
searing crater
taldarim (especially pvp)



T.T

edit~

backwater gulch
typhon

yuck
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
October 20 2011 11:55 GMT
#328
Why can't they just add like Dual Site and some of the bigger GSL maps, maybe Xelnaga fortress? Blizzard showing yet again that they have no understanding of competetive play. I think they will understand just how bad their maps are after the shitstorm following blizzcon though.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
October 20 2011 12:03 GMT
#329
just add new maps blizzard... -.-
FTD
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
October 20 2011 12:08 GMT
#330
On October 20 2011 20:55 StarBrift wrote:
Why can't they just add like Dual Site and some of the bigger GSL maps, maybe Xelnaga fortress? Blizzard showing yet again that they have no understanding of competetive play. I think they will understand just how bad their maps are after the shitstorm following blizzcon though.


Uhh, I think I'd rather have Searing and the other lame maps in the pool than Dual Sight. Dual Sight is a really terrible map balance-wise. But sure, Fortress and stuff would be cool.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
October 20 2011 12:08 GMT
#331
On October 20 2011 19:18 TechnoZerg wrote:
There's probably legal/ego issues regarding Blizzard's reluctance to adopt community-made maps in the 1x1 map pool. This will inherently skew balance data and future balance discussion. I just hope for the sake of the consumers that Blizzard will bite the bullet and include tournament playable maps.


Well fuck, I'm not asking for blizzard to steal GSL maps. I just wish Blizzard had better map developers on staff. Stop with all the got damn destructive rock shenanigans and give us better maps that don't involve close position shenanigans or blatant racial imbalance on them.

GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
October 20 2011 12:11 GMT
#332
So why are we starting a new season earlier then? :S
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
October 20 2011 12:13 GMT
#333
disappointment
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
October 20 2011 12:16 GMT
#334
WHY?
that was the only reason I was psyched for the new season..
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
October 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#335
i hate kydhiran depths sigh
oweia
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany83 Posts
October 20 2011 12:27 GMT
#336
I was hoping for
- xel'naga
- tal'darim
- searing crater
to be out of the pool.

IMO they should add:
- daybreak
- bel'shir beach (yes i'm zerg )
- and another map (maybe a 4 player blizz map...)
Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 13:05:29
October 20 2011 13:03 GMT
#337
On October 20 2011 20:42 perestain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 20:08 Eviscerador wrote:
On October 20 2011 19:30 iNViCiOUZ wrote:
God thanks for Battlefield 3.
I am not going to play this map-pool anymore...

Because BF3 and SC2 are related games...

I find this amusing, I'm sure most people posting here don't have skill enough to blame the maps for imbalance, but they rant because the mainstream "wanna be pros" in TL do.

I'm glad you are hardcore gamers (well, people saying won't play because of maps doesn't seem too hardcore for me) but remember for every master player, there are 50 casual gamers, which enjoy current maps, or just doesn't care nor have skill to care about them.

Blizzard could do better, and there are some maps which are better than others for sure. But saying the map pool sucks it is just too much imo.


Its quite cheap and arrogant to claim that people should not be entitled to an opinion about the ladder maps because they are not grandmaster or pro level. Even if its too much for you to grasp, people can very well tell if they enjoy a game or not at any level.

And there is not a single good reason for anyone not play on tournaments maps.



I didn't say anything about people giving an opinion. I was talking about the 90% of this thread posters which just say "Fuck, this map pool is shit, pros play in other maps" which isn't quite true (pros also ladder as practice)

And in case people just want tournament maps in blizzard ladder just because their favourite pro players play in them, well those pros also play in blizzard ladder most of the time, so if they play on them, why you not? Do like them, ladder in blizzard maps and play custom game in GSL or whatever custom map you desire.

But ranting just for rant is pretty amusing.

As I said, i'm not defending Blizzard. Some of their maps are not as good as they should, and they could do better, but from this to "FUCK BLIZZ SHIT MAPS" there is a loooong way.

After all, if there was no Blizzard, we wouldn't be here talking about some of the best games in gaming history.
A victorious warrior wins first, then goes to war. A defeated warrior goes to war and then seeks to win.
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
October 20 2011 13:11 GMT
#338
Don't they always talk about how they want to see varied play all the time? I thought new maps would create new playstyles.... hmmm
Andypk
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland512 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 13:12:30
October 20 2011 13:12 GMT
#339
I don't understand it, there are good GSL maps that arn't "too big" as Blizzard would put it, and most of the people playing probably have as many of the new maps as they can from last season vetoed...
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
October 20 2011 13:12 GMT
#340
On October 20 2011 22:03 Eviscerador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 20:42 perestain wrote:
On October 20 2011 20:08 Eviscerador wrote:
On October 20 2011 19:30 iNViCiOUZ wrote:
God thanks for Battlefield 3.
I am not going to play this map-pool anymore...

Because BF3 and SC2 are related games...

I find this amusing, I'm sure most people posting here don't have skill enough to blame the maps for imbalance, but they rant because the mainstream "wanna be pros" in TL do.

I'm glad you are hardcore gamers (well, people saying won't play because of maps doesn't seem too hardcore for me) but remember for every master player, there are 50 casual gamers, which enjoy current maps, or just doesn't care nor have skill to care about them.

Blizzard could do better, and there are some maps which are better than others for sure. But saying the map pool sucks it is just too much imo.


Its quite cheap and arrogant to claim that people should not be entitled to an opinion about the ladder maps because they are not grandmaster or pro level. Even if its too much for you to grasp, people can very well tell if they enjoy a game or not at any level.

And there is not a single good reason for anyone not play on tournaments maps.



I didn't say anything about people giving an opinion. I was talking about the 90% of this thread posters which just say "Fuck, this map pool is shit, pros play in other maps" which isn't quite true (pros also ladder as practice)

And in case people just want tournament maps in blizzard ladder just because their favourite pro players play in them, well those pros also play in blizzard ladder most of the time, so if they play on them, why you not? Do like them, ladder in blizzard maps and play custom game in GSL or whatever custom map you desire.

But ranting just for rant is pretty amusing.

As I said, i'm not defending Blizzard. Some of their maps are not as good as they should, and they could do better, but from this to "FUCK BLIZZ SHIT MAPS" there is a loooong way.

After all, if there was no Blizzard, we wouldn't be here talking about some of the best games in gaming history.


I'm quite sure that almost every professional player uses the majority of their practice on tournament maps. Many players have stated that ladder to them, is just a casual thing. Who would ever want to play ladder maps the majority of the time and get 2 raxed close spawn on Shattered?

The current map pool is underwhelming, this is a fact. Blizzard haven't changed it for the next season, then somehow wonder why their ladder becomes stagnant after the first few weeks.

People are entitled to bitch. It's one year into SC2 and we're still dealing with close spawn Shattered. Specific maps/spawns should never be almost universally dreaded by everyone, yet continuously locked into ladder.
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