On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote: when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?
hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.
Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !
guys you need to stop with that, or start reading a thread before posting seriously, it has been said 5 times that MLG is changing it for next year and they don't do it right now because it would be bad to do it at this stage of the competition as a whole.
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote: when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?
hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.
Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !
MLG announced that they're going to change the system next season, but will not change the rules in the middle of a season.
INcontroL is ranked this high because even after losing his group several times he still won matches in the champion ship bracket afterwards, justifiably placing him above those players.
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote: when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?
hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.
Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !
yeah the system favours koreans and americans since koreans get into poolplay without doing anything and americans like incontrol can just come back over and over because they dont have such a long trip
the most ridiculous thing is that drewbie got knocked out 1-4 or 0-5 at almost every event so he finally dorpped out and im like YEAAHHHHHHH finally this guy is out i hope we can see a bit more entertaining and evenly matched poolplay now and what does mlg do? they invite him to poolplay again I MEAN..... WTF why would you do that ???? why would you invite a player that was bad enough to drop out like he did all the time? makes no sense at all to me i mean if you want to invite some foreigner that lives in korea you can invite sase naniwa or thorzain but DEFINITELY not drewbie
i dont understand it they dont like europeans hope they will change their system a bit so we can see some topclass europeans as well and not just 2 or 3 at every event
Interesting how inControl and some other underperformers are still in the pool play. Points from "mostly NA" era of MLG proved to be very valuable indeed.
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote: when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?
hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.
Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !
guys you need to stop with that, or start reading a thread before posting seriously, it has been said 5 times that MLG is changing it for next year and they don't do it right now because it would be bad to do it at this stage of the competition as a whole.
And people don't listen to it because people don't think it would be bad for the competition as a whole. Why? Because it can't get worse than it is now?
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote: when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?
hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.
Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !
MLG announced that they're going to change the system next season, but will not change the rules in the middle of a season.
INcontroL is ranked this high because even after losing his group several times he still won matches in the champion ship bracket afterwards, justifiably placing him above those players.
Oh thanks, great news, I hadn't noticed ! Did they provide more details or did just annouce a future change ?
And as far as inControl is concerned, I'm not very convinced that he does derserve it. In Raleigh he won one series 2-1 and lost 6 series. Anaheim, same story...
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote: when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?
hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.
Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !
yeah the system favours koreans and americans since koreans get into poolplay without doing anything and americans like incontrol can just come back over and over because they dont have such a long trip
the most ridiculous thing is that drewbie got knocked out 1-4 or 0-5 at almost every event so he finally dorpped out and im like YEAAHHHHHHH finally this guy is out i hope we can see a bit more entertaining and evenly matched poolplay now and what does mlg do? they invite him to poolplay again I MEAN..... WTF why would you do that ???? why would you invite a player that was bad enough to drop out like he did all the time? makes no sense at all to me i mean if you want to invite some foreigner that lives in korea you can invite sase naniwa or thorzain but DEFINITELY not drewbie
i dont understand it they dont like europeans hope they will change their system a bit so we can see some topclass europeans as well and not just 2 or 3 at every event
i dont believe they will though
So much ignorance in this thread. Its super annoying. Nobody, and I literally mean nobody besides GSL crossover program was ever "invited" to pool play. WTF. If someone in the top 16 doesn't sign up, they just go next in the ranking. etc. etc. You can go look at the current rank points system (and how many points everyone has) and stop all these retarded posts. Yes it is easier/more convenient for American players to attend an American tourney, don't see your point. (again wtf? lol)
P.S. Yes the system is bad, and they realize it. They are just sticking with it for last two events of this season. Also... a 4th place + 3x22nd place (approximately) is not unreasonably out of the top 16 in MOST ranking systems.
P.S. Yes the system is bad, and they realize it. They are just sticking with it for last two events of this season. Also... a 4th place + 3x22nd place (approximately) is not unreasonably out of the top 16 in MOST ranking systems.
Ahm.. 3 x 22nd is in no way reasonable for a 16 seed even with one 4th place IF 22nd place is basically one of the very last places your even able to get as long as you attend . The sad thing about the MLG system is/was... It would not even have been good if no Koreans would have been invited. It was/is just horrible to the core. Inviting Koreans just made it (way) worse ^^.
It is strange that they didn't figure out on before hand that this point system would be stupid. Like the IPL people thought it was a good idea to make the players play for two whole days without the games having any signification at all (or almost) for the tournament.
I really want to see a Stephano v Bomber match. I can still remember the Bomber vs DRG G1 where he kept BMing DRG with scans and mules throughout the game. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the finals either!
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote: when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?
hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.
Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !
yeah the system favours koreans and americans since koreans get into poolplay without doing anything and americans like incontrol can just come back over and over because they dont have such a long trip
the most ridiculous thing is that drewbie got knocked out 1-4 or 0-5 at almost every event so he finally dorpped out and im like YEAAHHHHHHH finally this guy is out i hope we can see a bit more entertaining and evenly matched poolplay now and what does mlg do? they invite him to poolplay again I MEAN..... WTF why would you do that ???? why would you invite a player that was bad enough to drop out like he did all the time? makes no sense at all to me i mean if you want to invite some foreigner that lives in korea you can invite sase naniwa or thorzain but DEFINITELY not drewbie
i dont understand it they dont like europeans hope they will change their system a bit so we can see some topclass europeans as well and not just 2 or 3 at every event
i dont believe they will though
first of all, dont be rude. drewbie is a top player and whether hes 16th or 17th or whatever it is (in or out) of the group play is just silly to argue about. hes in because by mlgs rules (FOR THIS CIRCUIT), the top 16 or whatever point getters going get a spot in the pool play. guess who did that? drewbie. how? working his ass off. secondly, by your logic of pool play, TLO shouldnt be in pool play either, who is a european. is it an americans fault that they happen to live in america and travel is cheaper because mlg takes place in the states so they can get to all the events and rack up their points that they damn well worked their asses off to get? yes, format is being changed but not on this circuit. again, dont be rude
On October 12 2011 20:47 AIOL! wrote: I love to see that in every MLG Open bracket almost > than pools. This seeding system is such a joke, i hope they change this for the next seasons or i won't understand. To see players like Haypro, Incontrol, Slush, TLO, Drewbie, Tyler etc... invited and invited again just makes me sad. I have nothing against them, they are all nice but there's at least hundred players who deserve most than them. But the seeding system is biased, the error is made and i guess they can't do anything until the next season... But i REALLY hope they'll correct this, and i think they hope too :/
I understand your frustration with most of those players you've listed, but Slush performs well in MLGs and is definitely deserving of his place. For example at Columbus he beat Fenix, Ret, Naniwa and claimed 5th place.
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they dont like europeans 
hope they will change their system a bit so we can see some topclass europeans as well and not just 2 or 3 at every event 
