• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:46
CEST 08:46
KST 15:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies UA StarCraft: Mawin (T) vs hanniGan (P) Showmatch
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1439 users

MLG Orlando Open Bracket Full List - Page 19

Forum Index > SC2 General
642 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 33 Next All
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
October 12 2011 12:36 GMT
#361
On October 12 2011 21:31 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote:
when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?

hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.


Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !



guys you need to stop with that, or start reading a thread before posting seriously, it has been said 5 times that MLG is changing it for next year and they don't do it right now because it would be bad to do it at this stage of the competition as a whole.

I really hope Stephano make it out of pool play
YoloStar <3
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 12 2011 12:46 GMT
#362
Let's see how far Stephano can go this time
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
October 12 2011 12:46 GMT
#363
On October 12 2011 21:31 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote:
when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?

hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.


Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !

MLG announced that they're going to change the system next season, but will not change the rules in the middle of a season.

INcontroL is ranked this high because even after losing his group several times he still won matches in the champion ship bracket afterwards, justifiably placing him above those players.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
sGSuperSlinkY
Profile Joined May 2011
United States72 Posts
October 12 2011 12:48 GMT
#364
I call a TvT finals with Polt and MarineKingPrime
member of team iP (impressive Play)
BlindSC2
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom435 Posts
October 12 2011 12:49 GMT
#365
Whitra and Hwangsin fighting!

Wise men speak because they have something to say, fools; because they have to say something - Plato
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
October 12 2011 12:51 GMT
#366
On October 12 2011 21:31 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote:
when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?

hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.


Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !



yeah the system favours koreans and americans since koreans get into poolplay without doing anything and americans like incontrol can just come back over and over because they dont have such a long trip


the most ridiculous thing is that drewbie got knocked out 1-4 or 0-5 at almost every event so he finally dorpped out and im like YEAAHHHHHHH finally this guy is out i hope we can see a bit more entertaining and evenly matched poolplay now and what does mlg do? they invite him to poolplay again
I MEAN..... WTF why would you do that ???? why would you invite a player that was bad enough to drop out like he did all the time? makes no sense at all to me
i mean if you want to invite some foreigner that lives in korea you can invite sase naniwa or thorzain but DEFINITELY not drewbie

i dont understand it they dont like europeans hope they will change their system a bit so we can see some topclass europeans as well and not just 2 or 3 at every event

i dont believe they will though
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Coeus1
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland160 Posts
October 12 2011 12:52 GMT
#367
Interesting how inControl and some other underperformers are still in the pool play. Points from "mostly NA" era of MLG proved to be very valuable indeed.
xxx
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10888 Posts
October 12 2011 12:54 GMT
#368
On October 12 2011 21:36 FaRess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 21:31 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote:
when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?

hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.


Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !



guys you need to stop with that, or start reading a thread before posting seriously, it has been said 5 times that MLG is changing it for next year and they don't do it right now because it would be bad to do it at this stage of the competition as a whole.


And people don't listen to it because people don't think it would be bad for the competition as a whole.
Why? Because it can't get worse than it is now?
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
October 12 2011 12:55 GMT
#369
On October 12 2011 21:46 enzym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 21:31 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote:
when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?

hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.


Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !

MLG announced that they're going to change the system next season, but will not change the rules in the middle of a season.

INcontroL is ranked this high because even after losing his group several times he still won matches in the champion ship bracket afterwards, justifiably placing him above those players.


Oh thanks, great news, I hadn't noticed ! Did they provide more details or did just annouce a future change ?


And as far as inControl is concerned, I'm not very convinced that he does derserve it. In Raleigh he won one series 2-1 and lost 6 series. Anaheim, same story...
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
October 12 2011 12:57 GMT
#370
most NA protoss aren't even trying in the open bracket it seems, hilarious

polt and alive are gonna make it faaaaaaaaaaaaaar, actually can see almost nobody beating polt, unless he plays like he did against killer
bisu
Mingle
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom26 Posts
October 12 2011 13:02 GMT
#371
gogogo DeMusliM!!
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 13:04:39
October 12 2011 13:02 GMT
#372
On October 12 2011 21:51 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 21:31 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote:
when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?

hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.


Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !



yeah the system favours koreans and americans since koreans get into poolplay without doing anything and americans like incontrol can just come back over and over because they dont have such a long trip


the most ridiculous thing is that drewbie got knocked out 1-4 or 0-5 at almost every event so he finally dorpped out and im like YEAAHHHHHHH finally this guy is out i hope we can see a bit more entertaining and evenly matched poolplay now and what does mlg do? they invite him to poolplay again
I MEAN..... WTF why would you do that ???? why would you invite a player that was bad enough to drop out like he did all the time? makes no sense at all to me
i mean if you want to invite some foreigner that lives in korea you can invite sase naniwa or thorzain but DEFINITELY not drewbie

i dont understand it they dont like europeans hope they will change their system a bit so we can see some topclass europeans as well and not just 2 or 3 at every event

i dont believe they will though



So much ignorance in this thread. Its super annoying. Nobody, and I literally mean nobody besides GSL crossover program was ever "invited" to pool play. WTF. If someone in the top 16 doesn't sign up, they just go next in the ranking. etc. etc. You can go look at the current rank points system (and how many points everyone has) and stop all these retarded posts. Yes it is easier/more convenient for American players to attend an American tourney, don't see your point. (again wtf? lol)

P.S. Yes the system is bad, and they realize it. They are just sticking with it for last two events of this season. Also... a 4th place + 3x22nd place (approximately) is not unreasonably out of the top 16 in MOST ranking systems.

P.P.S. Flying 5k miles for this, gonna be sick.
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
October 12 2011 13:06 GMT
#373
Aw no minigun. I thought he was going
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10888 Posts
October 12 2011 13:12 GMT
#374
P.S. Yes the system is bad, and they realize it. They are just sticking with it for last two events of this season. Also... a 4th place + 3x22nd place (approximately) is not unreasonably out of the top 16 in MOST ranking systems.


Ahm.. 3 x 22nd is in no way reasonable for a 16 seed even with one 4th place IF 22nd place is basically one of the very last places your even able to get as long as you attend .
The sad thing about the MLG system is/was... It would not even have been good if no Koreans would have been invited. It was/is just horrible to the core. Inviting Koreans just made it (way) worse ^^.

Well.. I guess it worked for Halo .
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
October 12 2011 13:13 GMT
#375
It is strange that they didn't figure out on before hand that this point system would be stupid. Like the IPL people thought it was a good idea to make the players play for two whole days without the games having any signification at all (or almost) for the tournament.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
crydee
Profile Joined October 2011
92 Posts
October 12 2011 13:16 GMT
#376
I really want to see a Stephano v Bomber match. I can still remember the Bomber vs DRG G1 where he kept BMing DRG with scans and mules throughout the game. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the finals either!
Disposition1989
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada270 Posts
October 12 2011 13:16 GMT
#377
On October 12 2011 21:51 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 21:31 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 12 2011 21:18 Alaz wrote:
when do the points balance out so the people who've been doing bad in seed can finally get knocked out and back to bracket?

hate seeing people get good points just because they are seeded over and over yet never show up.


Yeah, I dunno how it all works, but the result is quite weird imo... Like inControl, for instance. He takes last place of his group with 0-5 twice in a row, gets a quite poor 22nd rank (for a pool player ofc) THREE times in a row, and he's just still there... I don't get it !



yeah the system favours koreans and americans since koreans get into poolplay without doing anything and americans like incontrol can just come back over and over because they dont have such a long trip


the most ridiculous thing is that drewbie got knocked out 1-4 or 0-5 at almost every event so he finally dorpped out and im like YEAAHHHHHHH finally this guy is out i hope we can see a bit more entertaining and evenly matched poolplay now and what does mlg do? they invite him to poolplay again
I MEAN..... WTF why would you do that ???? why would you invite a player that was bad enough to drop out like he did all the time? makes no sense at all to me
i mean if you want to invite some foreigner that lives in korea you can invite sase naniwa or thorzain but DEFINITELY not drewbie

i dont understand it they dont like europeans hope they will change their system a bit so we can see some topclass europeans as well and not just 2 or 3 at every event

i dont believe they will though


first of all, dont be rude. drewbie is a top player and whether hes 16th or 17th or whatever it is (in or out) of the group play is just silly to argue about. hes in because by mlgs rules (FOR THIS CIRCUIT), the top 16 or whatever point getters going get a spot in the pool play. guess who did that? drewbie. how? working his ass off. secondly, by your logic of pool play, TLO shouldnt be in pool play either, who is a european. is it an americans fault that they happen to live in america and travel is cheaper because mlg takes place in the states so they can get to all the events and rack up their points that they damn well worked their asses off to get? yes, format is being changed but not on this circuit. again, dont be rude
Willba
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom209 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 13:28:44
October 12 2011 13:28 GMT
#378
On October 12 2011 20:47 AIOL! wrote:
I love to see that in every MLG Open bracket almost > than pools. This seeding system is such a joke, i hope they change this for the next seasons or i won't understand. To see players like Haypro, Incontrol, Slush, TLO, Drewbie, Tyler etc... invited and invited again just makes me sad. I have nothing against them, they are all nice but there's at least hundred players who deserve most than them. But the seeding system is biased, the error is made and i guess they can't do anything until the next season... But i REALLY hope they'll correct this, and i think they hope too :/


I understand your frustration with most of those players you've listed, but Slush performs well in MLGs and is definitely deserving of his place. For example at Columbus he beat Fenix, Ret, Naniwa and claimed 5th place.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
October 12 2011 13:29 GMT
#379
hmm, didn't know that sase was going, thought he was still in korea. that open bracket is going to be hella strong
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France656 Posts
October 12 2011 13:29 GMT
#380
On October 12 2011 21:11 Wroshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 21:10 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 12 2011 21:04 TeH_CaRnAg3 wrote:
Solid list. Polt.... yahhhhhhhhhhhhh. I'm curious to see Stephano against some top koreans.


He's gonna rape them all, yo !

Sorry if the question has already been asked but is there some kind of seeding within the open bracket or are the draws totally random ??

It would be so bad to have like a MKP vs Stephano in an early round of open...

I am not sure about this but I believe that there is no seeding beyond ranking points, which obviously neither MarineKing nor Stephano currently have.

Indeed, and as a consequence, they will likely face players who have ranking points in the first rounds.

Trimaster must be glad of his Rayleigh performance, he has secured a chance at meeting Stephano in the first round ~~
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 33 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 490
Nina 0
StarCraft: Brood War
HiyA 101
Icarus 8
League of Legends
JimRising 716
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1032
Other Games
WinterStarcraft650
C9.Mang0337
RuFF_SC249
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Universe Titan Cup
4h 14m
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
5h 14m
Monday Night Weeklies
9h 14m
Replay Cast
17h 14m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 4h
GSL
2 days
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
TBD vs SHIN
TBD vs Rogue
IPSL
5 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.