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Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
October 17 2011 23:39 GMT
#2261
I hope the Toss unit comes later this evening (though that's unlikely). Ehh it was a nice little thing to look forward to this morning, but a delay isn't a big deal. Seeing as how Blizzard is infamous for delaying things, it was expected I guess, even if it was something as simple as a silhouette of an already completed unit :/.
Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 23:43:08
October 17 2011 23:41 GMT
#2262
Sorry for the double post
Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
October 17 2011 23:42 GMT
#2263
I hope the races stay unique with their pros and cons. If this turns out to be a siege tank like unit, I wiill be quite disappointed
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 17 2011 23:43 GMT
#2264
On October 18 2011 08:29 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:09 Highways wrote:
Protoss unit is late!

Where is it?

New theory.

The Protoss unit's preview is slow in arriving.

What Protoss unit is excruciatingly slow?

That's right. THE REAVER.

As a result, I'm pretty sure it's a Reaver or Reaver-variant, or perhaps even a cloaked Reaver assuming that my previous theory is correct.


Uh... every unit except the phoenix, speed warp prism, and the stalker is excruciatingly slow compared to bio with stim or anything zerg has excluding the hydra.

Speed is one factor in harassment. It is not the only one. Cheapness, unit abilities, strength, warp prisms, map design, etc. are others. Doesn't change the fact that every unit is a harass unit.
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
October 17 2011 23:43 GMT
#2265
On October 18 2011 08:39 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
I hope the Toss unit comes later this evening (though that's unlikely). Ehh it was a nice little thing to look forward to this morning, but a delay isn't a big deal. Seeing as how Blizzard is infamous for delaying things, it was expected I guess, even if it was something as simple as a silhouette of an already completed unit :/.


It's not unlikely. A blue post on the forum already confirmed that the picture will arrive "later than "now" sooner than tuesday.". So it's coming sometime today.
Set it ablaze!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 17 2011 23:45 GMT
#2266
On October 18 2011 08:43 Nausea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:39 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
I hope the Toss unit comes later this evening (though that's unlikely). Ehh it was a nice little thing to look forward to this morning, but a delay isn't a big deal. Seeing as how Blizzard is infamous for delaying things, it was expected I guess, even if it was something as simple as a silhouette of an already completed unit :/.


It's not unlikely. A blue post on the forum already confirmed that the picture will arrive "later than "now" sooner than tuesday.". So it's coming sometime today.

So, in other words, Soon™.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Soon
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 23:46:06
October 17 2011 23:45 GMT
#2267
i have no idea why they are playing these suspense bull shit games. it's just a silhouette and the actual unit itself wont be unveiled till blizzcon anyway. there is no need to delay the shadow of a unit to add more hype and suspense because the hype is already there. just show the damn shadow already because know one is going to know what it is till blizzcon anyway z.z.

knowing them tho they will show it off 1 hour before midnight tonight.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
October 17 2011 23:46 GMT
#2268
Question: If Blizzard lifted off their headquarters and flew west across the pacific what is the latest time (EST) they could release it and still be "sooner than Tuesday" for them?
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 17 2011 23:46 GMT
#2269
I think the TErran unit was released exactly two weeks ago (15 minutes from when i'm making this post)

I expect we wont have to wait any longer than 15 minutes

blizz headquarters is in california and it's 15 minutes to quittin' time there
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 17 2011 23:47 GMT
#2270
Im hoping it is some type of siege unit

The lurker was such an important unit to the Zergs in BW when I first picked up SC2 i was very disappointed not to see some kind of stationary siege type unit.

Then again a defiler wouldn't be so bad lol.
dats racist
MrSalamandra
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom412 Posts
October 17 2011 23:47 GMT
#2271
On October 18 2011 08:29 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:09 Highways wrote:
Protoss unit is late!

Where is it?

New theory.

The Protoss unit's preview is slow in arriving.

What Protoss unit is excruciatingly slow?

That's right. THE REAVER.

As a result, I'm pretty sure it's a Reaver or Reaver-variant, or perhaps even a cloaked Reaver assuming that my previous theory is correct.


Uh... every unit except the phoenix, speed warp prism, and the stalker is excruciatingly slow compared to bio with stim or anything zerg has excluding the hydra.


Bio doesn't arrive quickly, it's quick once it arrives. You can't stim the whole way to a preview, you'll be dead before you get there.
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 17 2011 23:47 GMT
#2272
on a side note.. given how dumb the Z and T units are.. i dont know why i am excited for the P unit

i'm expecting a failure of epic magnitude
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 17 2011 23:48 GMT
#2273
On October 18 2011 08:43 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:29 Whitewing wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:09 Highways wrote:
Protoss unit is late!

Where is it?

New theory.

The Protoss unit's preview is slow in arriving.

What Protoss unit is excruciatingly slow?

That's right. THE REAVER.

As a result, I'm pretty sure it's a Reaver or Reaver-variant, or perhaps even a cloaked Reaver assuming that my previous theory is correct.


Uh... every unit except the phoenix, speed warp prism, and the stalker is excruciatingly slow compared to bio with stim or anything zerg has excluding the hydra.

Speed is one factor in harassment. It is not the only one. Cheapness, unit abilities, strength, warp prisms, map design, etc. are others. Doesn't change the fact that every unit is a harass unit.


Oh come on, just because you can literally do harass with every unit doesn't make them harass units. A harass unit is a unit which is extremely useful in the role of harass, and is primarily suited to harass. Mutalisks for example, which are fast, and are great for poking and doing damage in undefended areas, but suck in straight up fights, are a harass unit. Reapers, which suck in fights but are great for picking off undefended buildings and workers are a harass unit. Sure, you can technically harass with a colossus, but that doesn't make it a harass unit.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 17 2011 23:48 GMT
#2274
On October 18 2011 08:47 MrSalamandra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:29 Whitewing wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:09 Highways wrote:
Protoss unit is late!

Where is it?

New theory.

The Protoss unit's preview is slow in arriving.

What Protoss unit is excruciatingly slow?

That's right. THE REAVER.

As a result, I'm pretty sure it's a Reaver or Reaver-variant, or perhaps even a cloaked Reaver assuming that my previous theory is correct.


Uh... every unit except the phoenix, speed warp prism, and the stalker is excruciatingly slow compared to bio with stim or anything zerg has excluding the hydra.


Bio doesn't arrive quickly, it's quick once it arrives. You can't stim the whole way to a preview, you'll be dead before you get there.


Terrans do it all the time, that's what medivacs are for.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
October 17 2011 23:52 GMT
#2275
On October 18 2011 08:47 Roxy wrote:
on a side note.. given how dumb the Z and T units are.. i dont know why i am excited for the P unit

i'm expecting a failure of epic magnitude



how can u say they are dumb when u dont even know what they look like let alone what they do?
MrSalamandra
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 23:53:46
October 17 2011 23:53 GMT
#2276
On October 18 2011 08:48 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:47 MrSalamandra wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:29 Whitewing wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:09 Highways wrote:
Protoss unit is late!

Where is it?

New theory.

The Protoss unit's preview is slow in arriving.

What Protoss unit is excruciatingly slow?

That's right. THE REAVER.

As a result, I'm pretty sure it's a Reaver or Reaver-variant, or perhaps even a cloaked Reaver assuming that my previous theory is correct.


Uh... every unit except the phoenix, speed warp prism, and the stalker is excruciatingly slow compared to bio with stim or anything zerg has excluding the hydra.


Bio doesn't arrive quickly, it's quick once it arrives. You can't stim the whole way to a preview, you'll be dead before you get there.


Terrans do it all the time, that's what medivacs are for.


I remember Boxer doing that once on Tal'Darim and his army immediately died as soon as it touched the enemy's (which was incidentally a Protoss, although he would have immediately died against anyone).

Also my comment was clearly joking in nature.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 17 2011 23:53 GMT
#2277
On October 18 2011 08:52 Ballistixz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:47 Roxy wrote:
on a side note.. given how dumb the Z and T units are.. i dont know why i am excited for the P unit

i'm expecting a failure of epic magnitude



how can u say they are dumb when u dont even know what they look like let alone what they do?

Silhouettes weren't of BW units I wanted! RAAAAAAGE!
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 17 2011 23:53 GMT
#2278
On October 18 2011 08:48 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:43 0neder wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:29 Whitewing wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:09 Highways wrote:
Protoss unit is late!

Where is it?

New theory.

The Protoss unit's preview is slow in arriving.

What Protoss unit is excruciatingly slow?

That's right. THE REAVER.

As a result, I'm pretty sure it's a Reaver or Reaver-variant, or perhaps even a cloaked Reaver assuming that my previous theory is correct.


Uh... every unit except the phoenix, speed warp prism, and the stalker is excruciatingly slow compared to bio with stim or anything zerg has excluding the hydra.

Speed is one factor in harassment. It is not the only one. Cheapness, unit abilities, strength, warp prisms, map design, etc. are others. Doesn't change the fact that every unit is a harass unit.


Oh come on, just because you can literally do harass with every unit doesn't make them harass units. A harass unit is a unit which is extremely useful in the role of harass, and is primarily suited to harass. Mutalisks for example, which are fast, and are great for poking and doing damage in undefended areas, but suck in straight up fights, are a harass unit. Reapers, which suck in fights but are great for picking off undefended buildings and workers are a harass unit. Sure, you can technically harass with a colossus, but that doesn't make it a harass unit.

Yes, but this is my point: You shouldn't design 'harass' units. You should design units that may be used for harassing. How much reaper harass have you seen lately from the 'harass' unit? Hardly any. But I've seen HT/DT/Zealot/Stalker/Sentry/Immortal harass all within the last few weeks.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 17 2011 23:55 GMT
#2279
On October 18 2011 08:47 Roxy wrote:
on a side note.. given how dumb the Z and T units are.. i dont know why i am excited for the P unit

i'm expecting a failure of epic magnitude


We don't know what the Z and T units are. We have educated guesses at their basic function but that is all.
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
October 17 2011 23:56 GMT
#2280
5 minutes till it is posted :D
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