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Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 17 2011 23:57 GMT
#2281
On October 18 2011 08:55 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:47 Roxy wrote:
on a side note.. given how dumb the Z and T units are.. i dont know why i am excited for the P unit

i'm expecting a failure of epic magnitude


We don't know what the Z and T units are. We have educated guesses at their basic function but that is all.


Mark my words
They will look dumb

Their functionality? we have some educated guesses, but can't know for sure

all i meant was that they will look dumb
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
IrOnKaL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States340 Posts
October 17 2011 23:58 GMT
#2282
On October 18 2011 08:53 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:48 Whitewing wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:43 0neder wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:29 Whitewing wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:09 Highways wrote:
Protoss unit is late!

Where is it?

New theory.

The Protoss unit's preview is slow in arriving.

What Protoss unit is excruciatingly slow?

That's right. THE REAVER.

As a result, I'm pretty sure it's a Reaver or Reaver-variant, or perhaps even a cloaked Reaver assuming that my previous theory is correct.


Uh... every unit except the phoenix, speed warp prism, and the stalker is excruciatingly slow compared to bio with stim or anything zerg has excluding the hydra.

Speed is one factor in harassment. It is not the only one. Cheapness, unit abilities, strength, warp prisms, map design, etc. are others. Doesn't change the fact that every unit is a harass unit.


Oh come on, just because you can literally do harass with every unit doesn't make them harass units. A harass unit is a unit which is extremely useful in the role of harass, and is primarily suited to harass. Mutalisks for example, which are fast, and are great for poking and doing damage in undefended areas, but suck in straight up fights, are a harass unit. Reapers, which suck in fights but are great for picking off undefended buildings and workers are a harass unit. Sure, you can technically harass with a colossus, but that doesn't make it a harass unit.

Yes, but this is my point: You shouldn't design 'harass' units. You should design units that may be used for harassing. How much reaper harass have you seen lately from the 'harass' unit? Hardly any. But I've seen HT/DT/Zealot/Stalker/Sentry/Immortal harass all within the last few weeks.

Blizz did say they were going to "un-nerf" the reaper. So I would expect to see reapers a lot more in HoTS.
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 18 2011 00:00 GMT
#2283
On October 18 2011 08:58 IrOnKaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:53 0neder wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:48 Whitewing wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:43 0neder wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:29 Whitewing wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:09 Highways wrote:
Protoss unit is late!

Where is it?

New theory.

The Protoss unit's preview is slow in arriving.

What Protoss unit is excruciatingly slow?

That's right. THE REAVER.

As a result, I'm pretty sure it's a Reaver or Reaver-variant, or perhaps even a cloaked Reaver assuming that my previous theory is correct.


Uh... every unit except the phoenix, speed warp prism, and the stalker is excruciatingly slow compared to bio with stim or anything zerg has excluding the hydra.

Speed is one factor in harassment. It is not the only one. Cheapness, unit abilities, strength, warp prisms, map design, etc. are others. Doesn't change the fact that every unit is a harass unit.


Oh come on, just because you can literally do harass with every unit doesn't make them harass units. A harass unit is a unit which is extremely useful in the role of harass, and is primarily suited to harass. Mutalisks for example, which are fast, and are great for poking and doing damage in undefended areas, but suck in straight up fights, are a harass unit. Reapers, which suck in fights but are great for picking off undefended buildings and workers are a harass unit. Sure, you can technically harass with a colossus, but that doesn't make it a harass unit.

Yes, but this is my point: You shouldn't design 'harass' units. You should design units that may be used for harassing. How much reaper harass have you seen lately from the 'harass' unit? Hardly any. But I've seen HT/DT/Zealot/Stalker/Sentry/Immortal harass all within the last few weeks.

Blizz did say they were going to "un-nerf" the reaper. So I would expect to see reapers a lot more in HoTS.


When did they say that?

Hopefully they un-nerf it to the engineering bay, and not just the tech lab
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 18 2011 00:01 GMT
#2284
On October 18 2011 08:57 Roxy wrote:
Mark my words
They will look dumb

Yes at this point we're just concerned with the cartooney aesthetics and proportions of the units.

Is the art team trying to capture the WC3/LoL/WoW crowd? It's the only explanation...
eatmybunnies
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
October 18 2011 00:01 GMT
#2285
well its 8 now what
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 18 2011 00:01 GMT
#2286
On October 18 2011 09:00 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:58 IrOnKaL wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:53 0neder wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:48 Whitewing wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:43 0neder wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:29 Whitewing wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:09 Highways wrote:
Protoss unit is late!

Where is it?

New theory.

The Protoss unit's preview is slow in arriving.

What Protoss unit is excruciatingly slow?

That's right. THE REAVER.

As a result, I'm pretty sure it's a Reaver or Reaver-variant, or perhaps even a cloaked Reaver assuming that my previous theory is correct.


Uh... every unit except the phoenix, speed warp prism, and the stalker is excruciatingly slow compared to bio with stim or anything zerg has excluding the hydra.

Speed is one factor in harassment. It is not the only one. Cheapness, unit abilities, strength, warp prisms, map design, etc. are others. Doesn't change the fact that every unit is a harass unit.


Oh come on, just because you can literally do harass with every unit doesn't make them harass units. A harass unit is a unit which is extremely useful in the role of harass, and is primarily suited to harass. Mutalisks for example, which are fast, and are great for poking and doing damage in undefended areas, but suck in straight up fights, are a harass unit. Reapers, which suck in fights but are great for picking off undefended buildings and workers are a harass unit. Sure, you can technically harass with a colossus, but that doesn't make it a harass unit.

Yes, but this is my point: You shouldn't design 'harass' units. You should design units that may be used for harassing. How much reaper harass have you seen lately from the 'harass' unit? Hardly any. But I've seen HT/DT/Zealot/Stalker/Sentry/Immortal harass all within the last few weeks.

Blizz did say they were going to "un-nerf" the reaper. So I would expect to see reapers a lot more in HoTS.


When did they say that?

Hopefully they un-nerf it to the engineering bay, and not just the tech lab

Browder said it in an interview in January.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
kevinmon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
October 18 2011 00:02 GMT
#2287
On October 18 2011 09:01 eatmybunnies wrote:
well its 8 now what

Now...we wait.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 18 2011 00:03 GMT
#2288
On October 18 2011 09:01 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:57 Roxy wrote:
Mark my words
They will look dumb

Yes at this point we're just concerned with the cartooney aesthetics and proportions of the units.

Is the art team trying to capture the WC3/LoL/WoW crowd? It's the only explanation...

I don't see how anything in WoL is more stylized than anything in SC1, which had robot slugs and walking eggs that shot rockets.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 18 2011 00:03 GMT
#2289
On October 18 2011 09:01 eatmybunnies wrote:
well its 8 now what

8 pm Eastern, but still 7 pm Central. I think the Terran pic came out at 8 pm Central according to my Facebook.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 18 2011 00:03 GMT
#2290
On October 18 2011 09:02 kevinmon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 09:01 eatmybunnies wrote:
well its 8 now what

Now...we wait.


Any of you guys see that south park episode where cartman is in the bestbuy with his mom and she wouldnt buy him the ipad?

I feel like cartman right now.. and blizzard is all like:

http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
October 18 2011 00:06 GMT
#2291
On October 18 2011 08:46 Archerofaiur wrote:
Question: If Blizzard lifted off their headquarters and flew west across the pacific what is the latest time (EST) they could release it and still be "sooner than Tuesday" for them?


We cannot answer this question because we do not know the speed of the lifted off Blizzzard Headquarters.

The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 18 2011 00:07 GMT
#2292
On October 18 2011 08:57 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 08:55 The KY wrote:
On October 18 2011 08:47 Roxy wrote:
on a side note.. given how dumb the Z and T units are.. i dont know why i am excited for the P unit

i'm expecting a failure of epic magnitude


We don't know what the Z and T units are. We have educated guesses at their basic function but that is all.


Mark my words
They will look dumb

Their functionality? we have some educated guesses, but can't know for sure

all i meant was that they will look dumb


Unless it's very clearly and obviously the silhouette of a reaver, there are going to be people saying it looks dumb and hundreds of 'this is retarded Blizzard doesn't know what they're doing' posts.
Deleted User 109835
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
629 Posts
October 18 2011 00:08 GMT
#2293
--- Nuked ---
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 18 2011 00:10 GMT
#2294
On October 18 2011 06:29 chuscorral wrote:
Maybe something like this:



Ironic how not a single one of those units made it into the game. Although I didn't see how the Twilight archon is any different than a regular archon.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
October 18 2011 00:11 GMT
#2295
Oh come on
Don't hassle the toss
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 18 2011 00:11 GMT
#2296
On October 18 2011 09:10 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:29 chuscorral wrote:
Maybe something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhHy2achRoU


Ironic how not a single one of those units made it into the game. Although I didn't see how the Twilight archon is any different than a regular archon.

It had legs. I think that was it.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 00:12:33
October 18 2011 00:11 GMT
#2297
On October 18 2011 09:10 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:29 chuscorral wrote:
Maybe something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhHy2achRoU


Ironic how not a single one of those units made it into the game. Although I didn't see how the Twilight archon is any different than a regular archon.


it had legs -.-

edit: bah too slow bah tired wawawa xD
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
October 18 2011 00:13 GMT
#2298
Get ready to be blown away, this unit does some no one here will EVER suspect. This is going to be such a game changer... I can already imagine so many protosses, especially collosi lovers, to complain about this.
Interesting choice, Blizzard.
Deleted User 109835
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
629 Posts
October 18 2011 00:15 GMT
#2299
--- Nuked ---
Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
October 18 2011 00:15 GMT
#2300
Remove Collosus. Fast zealot and reaver. Toss dream comes true.
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