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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
October 18 2011 00:36 GMT
#2321
Where's the Protoss unit? why things I expect never happen???
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 18 2011 00:37 GMT
#2322
On October 18 2011 09:36 0neder wrote:
It must be Robo, because the Colossus has to be replaced for e-sports.

I like the colossus. I am the 1%.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 00:40:12
October 18 2011 00:37 GMT
#2323
On October 18 2011 09:36 Garnet wrote:
Where's the Protoss unit? why things I expect never happen???


I was just going to ask why everyone was so anxious to see another silhouette when the first two seem to be seriously lacking. But then I realized it's protoss and they'll probably receive the coolest addition in Heart of the Swarm -___-
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
October 18 2011 00:38 GMT
#2324
I don't understand why so many people are hating the collosus. I don't want units removed, i want more units therefore more possibilities. If I'm missing the Reaver too much i can always play some BW.
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
October 18 2011 00:40 GMT
#2325
On October 18 2011 09:37 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 09:36 Garnet wrote:
Where's the Protoss unit? why things I expect never happen???


I was just going to ask why everyone was so anxious to see another silhouette when the first two seem to be seriously lacking. But then I realized it's protoss and they'll probably receive the coolest addition in Heart of the Swarm -___-


You know that the title doesn't have to do anything with esports / new units?

Heart of the Swarm is just a campaign ~ .
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 18 2011 00:40 GMT
#2326
On October 18 2011 09:38 Warpish wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are hating the collosus. I don't want units removed, i want more units therefore more possibilities. If I'm missing the Reaver too much i can always play some BW.

People are of the opinion that, because it doesn't require 200 APM to get any kills, it doesn't require any micro.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
FarFetchD
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden3 Posts
October 18 2011 00:40 GMT
#2327
I hope there will be a new building, like the factory for terran. so u dont have to go gateway cyber core every single game. U need to build tha gateway but then u can go the other building. One of the new units has to be a "drive-by" unit like the zerglings and hellion
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 18 2011 00:41 GMT
#2328
On October 18 2011 09:38 Warpish wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are hating the collosus. I don't want units removed, i want more units therefore more possibilities. If I'm missing the Reaver too much i can always play some BW.

Because the Colossus is a boring unit, bad for battle legibility, and looks silly.
castled
Profile Joined March 2011
United States322 Posts
October 18 2011 00:41 GMT
#2329
On October 18 2011 09:35 Mash2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 09:28 castled wrote:
please let it be robotics, and have the colossus go away forever...

I can't see them actually just adding the reaver, but a unit that functions like one would be great for the game. Maybe a Dark-Reaver? There currently aren't any dark units from the robotics right? That would be cool.



I hope you realize that a Reaver, or anything with the splash damage even near what a reaver had, would aboslutely wreck bioballs on a level way above that of the collosus. It wasn't an issue in brood war because you couldn't have as many units as you wanted in one control group - so it didn't create the clumped up "balls" that we see in SC2. In SC2, you can have as many units as you want in a control group, and thus, the "balls" are created. Be careful what you wish for...

Yeah, I know if they literally just dropped in the BW unit it would be imba. I'm assuming they'll balance it to the new game. Just agreeing with others that a unit that functions sort of like a reaver could fill the role of the colossus and require more skill to use. It would be more interesting to watch and maybe open more harass opportunities for protoss as well.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
October 18 2011 00:44 GMT
#2330
On October 18 2011 09:38 Warpish wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are hating the collosus. I don't want units removed, i want more units therefore more possibilities. If I'm missing the Reaver too much i can always play some BW.


Because people seem to think being a BW vet is cool, so they keep on saying "reaver, lurker, arbiter, vulture," and finding problems with SC2 that don't exist.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
October 18 2011 00:44 GMT
#2331
They wouldn't remove the Collosus, because that would fuck up all the matchups even more than if they added new units. New units can find their niche or mold into the existing army, but if you take out an integral piece of a protoss ball then both protoss and terran/zerg will have to redo their strategies.

"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 00:46:41
October 18 2011 00:44 GMT
#2332
On October 18 2011 09:41 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 09:38 Warpish wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are hating the collosus. I don't want units removed, i want more units therefore more possibilities. If I'm missing the Reaver too much i can always play some BW.

Because the Colossus is a boring unit, bad for battle legibility, and looks silly.


That is a personal opinion. I don't find it boring or silly. One can make a case that a super slow metal sulg that shoots explosive scarabs is quite silly too...
eatmybunnies
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
October 18 2011 00:45 GMT
#2333
why is Blizzard being silly and not releasing any toss units..
If there are no new toss units i will quit this game.
features
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Ireland160 Posts
October 18 2011 00:46 GMT
#2334
On October 18 2011 09:40 FarFetchD wrote:
I hope there will be a new building, like the factory for terran. so u dont have to go gateway cyber core every single game. U need to build tha gateway but then u can go the other building. One of the new units has to be a "drive-by" unit like the zerglings and hellion

Its called a chargelot....

If you have 6-10 gateways and a warp prism/ proxy pylon and you see the enemy army move out I assure you there is no easier unit for demolishing a base than the zealot.

Hatchery sniping with a bunch of chargelots is a geat new way to play.
Conveyor belt star
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 18 2011 00:46 GMT
#2335
On October 18 2011 09:44 Warpish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 09:41 0neder wrote:
On October 18 2011 09:38 Warpish wrote:
I don't understand why so many people are hating the collosus. I don't want units removed, i want more units therefore more possibilities. If I'm missing the Reaver too much i can always play some BW.

Because the Colossus is a boring unit, bad for battle legibility, and looks silly.


That is your personal opinion. I don't find it boring or silly. One can make a case that a super slow metal sulg that shoots explosive scarabs is quite silly too...


ya.. im going to have to agree with you
when i first started playing BW i was trying out protoss and made a reaver
i had to pay $25 to kill like 2 units and i was just like wtf.. screw this i'm switchign to terran

seriously tho.. tell me how seige tanks require more micro than colossus?
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 18 2011 00:46 GMT
#2336
On October 18 2011 09:45 eatmybunnies wrote:
why is Blizzard being silly and not releasing any toss units..
If there are no new toss units i will quit this game.

That doesn't mean much when there isn't a monthly fee.

Just saying.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
October 18 2011 00:48 GMT
#2337
people don't like colossi because they do so much damage and require basically no micro. Just keep them in the middle or behind the rest of your army and let them drill away at opposing bio armies and tear them to shreds. But there are ways to defeat them and simple ways at that, so I'm not really gonna say "take out colossi".
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 00:50:53
October 18 2011 00:48 GMT
#2338
On October 18 2011 09:40 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 09:37 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On October 18 2011 09:36 Garnet wrote:
Where's the Protoss unit? why things I expect never happen???


I was just going to ask why everyone was so anxious to see another silhouette when the first two seem to be seriously lacking. But then I realized it's protoss and they'll probably receive the coolest addition in Heart of the Swarm -___-


You know that the title doesn't have to do anything with esports / new units?

Heart of the Swarm is just a campaign ~ .


I shouldn't have to point this out, but the campaign actually has a lot to do with units and 'esports' (what the fuck?), or at least should now that Blizzard has started the trend with Wings.

Everyone knows Terran was/is the most developed race, and one that received the most time and effort from the sc2 team. Dustin Browder and others have come out and explained it was because they were working with Terran so much for the campaign that they became the most dynamic in multiplayer. It would be a huge let down if Zerg wasn't the shining star for 'their' expansion, receiving plenty of retributive attention, and protss for the third game.

Overall point is that you can't short on cool zerg updates for HotS when a lot of zergs are unhappy with their race's design so far (hydras, corruptors, roaches, absence of feeling swarmy and fast--the whole caboodle).
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 18 2011 00:48 GMT
#2339
On October 18 2011 09:48 Gojira621 wrote:
people don't like colossi because they do so much damage and require basically no micro. Just keep them in the middle or behind the rest of your army and let them drill away at opposing bio armies and tear them to shreds. But there are ways to defeat them and simple ways at that, so I'm not really gonna say "take out colossi".

... You mean like any siege unit ever?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
castled
Profile Joined March 2011
United States322 Posts
October 18 2011 00:49 GMT
#2340
On October 18 2011 09:46 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 09:45 eatmybunnies wrote:
why is Blizzard being silly and not releasing any toss units..
If there are no new toss units i will quit this game.

That doesn't mean much when there isn't a monthly fee.

Just saying.

It means something if those Toss players don't buy 2 $60 expansions.

but obviously they're going to release a toss unit lol
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