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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
October 08 2011 09:30 GMT
#241
I don't blame you guys at IPL for this - there is literally nothing you could have feasibly done to prevent this. It was just a freak accident.

Yes, Blizzard should have LAN support for live tourneys, but the games still couldn't be streamed so it doesn't make a great deal of difference - people wouldn't want to watch recorded games as much anyway.
Pri1230
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom148 Posts
October 08 2011 09:35 GMT
#242
On October 08 2011 18:25 nvrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 15:46 Glockateer wrote:
These internet problems are ridiculous. We seriously need to get LAN support. The worst part is: we can't really boycott blizzard either since that would kill all the effort put SC2 into a more mainstream competition.


Well i see the point for LAN but the event would still be shut down by no internet...you see the are streaming it LIVE and that's the whole point of it?


But at least the games would of been played, it must be incredibly fustrating for the players who have travelled all the way from different parts of the world (I heard Idra forfeited his games becuase he was incredibly tired coming back from china). only to be sitting around the casino not knowing if they are going to be playing or not.

If they did have lan they could of played the games and been seeded without issue (Not sure if the open bracket was affected it seems to have been played out) IPL have done the best they possibly could and so did comcast by the looks of things so they are not to blame. Blizzard have really screwed this tournament over first with the IP black listing and then by having no lan, I'd like to hope they would learn from this but of course they won't.
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
October 08 2011 09:35 GMT
#243
On October 08 2011 07:19 Defacer wrote:
Arrrgh. What a random act of god, that sucks Alex. glgl.

Riiight...

Very unfortunate, but when the show is on, it looks like the most professional/most awesome to watch sc2 tourney so far. Loving it :D
no dude, the question
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 08 2011 09:41 GMT
#244
On October 08 2011 18:35 Pri1230 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 18:25 nvrs wrote:
On October 08 2011 15:46 Glockateer wrote:
These internet problems are ridiculous. We seriously need to get LAN support. The worst part is: we can't really boycott blizzard either since that would kill all the effort put SC2 into a more mainstream competition.


Well i see the point for LAN but the event would still be shut down by no internet...you see the are streaming it LIVE and that's the whole point of it?


But at least the games would of been played, it must be incredibly fustrating for the players who have travelled all the way from different parts of the world (I heard Idra forfeited his games becuase he was incredibly tired coming back from china). only to be sitting around the casino not knowing if they are going to be playing or not.

If they did have lan they could of played the games and been seeded without issue (Not sure if the open bracket was affected it seems to have been played out) IPL have done the best they possibly could and so did comcast by the looks of things so they are not to blame. Blizzard have really screwed this tournament over first with the IP black listing and then by having no lan, I'd like to hope they would learn from this but of course they won't.


the games could have been streamed, just in poor quality.
they did provide the viewers with some footage while the internet was down.
deMONk
Profile Joined March 2011
45 Posts
October 08 2011 09:42 GMT
#245
Been really enjoying the IPL3 from Australia, alot of extra materials which I really like!
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 09:47:06
October 08 2011 09:45 GMT
#246
I know a shit lot of more immature people will complain a shit lot (similiar to what happened at mlg dallas), but this is not your fault. Shit happens, and I got to watch boxer play some bw again thanks to those issues. Thanks for giving this statement, I'm sure the rest of your event will run smoothly, and thus far I'm really impressed with the production quality and the players involved. IPL fighting!
Pri1230
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom148 Posts
October 08 2011 09:47 GMT
#247
On October 08 2011 18:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 18:35 Pri1230 wrote:
On October 08 2011 18:25 nvrs wrote:
On October 08 2011 15:46 Glockateer wrote:
These internet problems are ridiculous. We seriously need to get LAN support. The worst part is: we can't really boycott blizzard either since that would kill all the effort put SC2 into a more mainstream competition.


Well i see the point for LAN but the event would still be shut down by no internet...you see the are streaming it LIVE and that's the whole point of it?


But at least the games would of been played, it must be incredibly fustrating for the players who have travelled all the way from different parts of the world (I heard Idra forfeited his games becuase he was incredibly tired coming back from china). only to be sitting around the casino not knowing if they are going to be playing or not.

If they did have lan they could of played the games and been seeded without issue (Not sure if the open bracket was affected it seems to have been played out) IPL have done the best they possibly could and so did comcast by the looks of things so they are not to blame. Blizzard have really screwed this tournament over first with the IP black listing and then by having no lan, I'd like to hope they would learn from this but of course they won't.


the games could have been streamed, just in poor quality.
they did provide the viewers with some footage while the internet was down.


To be honest I was actually more interested in watching the backstage stuff as I wasn't too interest in pool play anyway and i'm glad and very greatul to ign for providing those backstage streams. They had the pool play for extra content and most players were not going to show there shining builds or strategies.
phuzi0n
Profile Joined April 2010
United States308 Posts
October 08 2011 09:52 GMT
#248
On October 08 2011 18:30 SeaSwift wrote:
Yes, Blizzard should have LAN support for live tourneys, but the games still couldn't be streamed so it doesn't make a great deal of difference - people wouldn't want to watch recorded games as much anyway.

I don't see how so many people keep saying this while missing a very obvious fact. Streams can be done over bad wireless (satellite, 3G, 4G, whatever) backup lines that have high latency, the games themselves cannot be played with high latency. If Blizzard gave tournaments LAN play like they promised A YEAR AGO (not for everyone, just for the pro LAN's) then the LAN's would be able to play with low latency and stream over their high latency backup connections when circumstances like this happen. And if for some reason the backup lines couldn't handle streaming either then they could still play the games on LAN and physically take the replays to a nearby location with a connection that could handle streaming or send them to offsite backup casters.

IPL3 has had two cases of terribly bad luck that both could have been avoided if Blizzard gave them LAN play. The first one with Blizzard blacklisting them was terribly stupid of Blizzard and was baffling how long it took Blizzard to fix it. Keep on trucking IGN and please lay it into Blizzard hard about this bullshit that they've caused.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 09:55:11
October 08 2011 09:54 GMT
#249
Can't predict everything I guess. Did you catch the driver?
WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 09:58:01
October 08 2011 09:55 GMT
#250
On October 08 2011 18:25 nvrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 15:46 Glockateer wrote:
These internet problems are ridiculous. We seriously need to get LAN support. The worst part is: we can't really boycott blizzard either since that would kill all the effort put SC2 into a more mainstream competition.


Well i see the point for LAN but the event would still be shut down by no internet...you see the are streaming it LIVE and that's the whole point of it?


I'm okay with your argument, that lan support hadn't saved that day of the event.

But isn't there although a problem with heavy lags due to gaming. Meeting at a Lan, then both players connecting to bnet with observer might cause more problems then just lan+stream. Or am i wrong?

EDIT: phuzi0n answered my question while i was writing my post
"Thats the moment you send the kids outta the room - when you get contained by MarineKing." Tasteless
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
October 08 2011 09:58 GMT
#251
Apparently they played BW when the internet went down
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272846
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
October 08 2011 10:01 GMT
#252
I blame blizz, not you guys.
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
October 08 2011 10:03 GMT
#253
With LAN they could've had cameras filming the screens at the event as a backup if something like this happened, kinda like how we were watching sc:bw being played at the event as this was happening. Blizzard won't budge though, it's not like they actually care what people think about them as long as they get that money.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
October 08 2011 10:03 GMT
#254
Thanks for the great production and show up til unforseeable circumstances.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
October 08 2011 10:03 GMT
#255
On October 08 2011 07:34 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
hurricanes at MLG's, rampaging pole smashing trucks at IPL

What's next? Lizard people at GSL?

EDIT: Thanks for the update

God hates nerds.
The great one wants us all out on the streets playing basketball ^^
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 08 2011 10:04 GMT
#256
with lan, you couldn't watch it when the internet is down and would get replays. ~ bad for sponsors overall. (not sure if delaying or playing it out with no viewers is better, probably delaying is the win in every aspect if you don't lose the players that is, as they have shedules too). And with lan + the lan could strike . So only internet is better for those events. Atleast for everyone except of the players heh.

On a side not, might we get the number of the car that cut the internet ?
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
October 08 2011 10:04 GMT
#257
On October 08 2011 19:01 MHT wrote:
I blame blizz, not you guys.

You are smart then.
You can't stream the games without internet. Unless you would rather watch replays and recordings....think again.
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
October 08 2011 10:09 GMT
#258
Really appreciate the update, you guys are fantastic!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
phuzi0n
Profile Joined April 2010
United States308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 10:12:32
October 08 2011 10:10 GMT
#259
On October 08 2011 19:04 Gotmog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 19:01 MHT wrote:
I blame blizz, not you guys.

You are smart then.
You can't stream the games without internet. Unless you would rather watch replays and recordings....think again.

They had backup lines that they used to stream, the problem was that there was high latency on the backup line so they had to limit the number of players that were playing. That could have been fixed by having LAN play!

Even if they only had LAN and absolutely no internet in the entire state then it would still be better to play the games on LAN and broadcast replays later than to have all those people pay to fly out to the LAN and not play at all.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 08 2011 10:34 GMT
#260
On October 08 2011 19:03 Gotmog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 07:34 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
hurricanes at MLG's, rampaging pole smashing trucks at IPL

What's next? Lizard people at GSL?

EDIT: Thanks for the update

God hates nerds.
The great one wants us all out on the streets playing basketball ^^


I heavily doubt lizard people would even dare attacking a building with the possibility of finding MC or Nada inside of it...
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