New Terran Unit in Heart of the Swarm - Page 79

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Grummler

Germany743 Posts

October 05 2011 19:06 GMT

#1561

On October 06 2011 03:38 Grndr101 wrote:

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Is this real lol??

Yeah its real. Terran will get blue flame hellrauders.

Source: Your Picture. Its impossible to photoshop images, so it has to be legit.

CargiLL

1 Post

October 05 2011 19:06 GMT

#1562

Ok, so from what i can see from changing contrast and stuff, and just from my guess as well, i think that it is more than likely going to be either a transformation of the hellion like a viking, or a transformation from either this to a hellion or a hellion to this in the one-way style such as the corrupter to brood lord.

From what i can see from the picture:
-it has 2 hand held shields, i pretty definite about that
-the mounted gun is most likely a hellions flame thrower type of thing, tying in with the next point
-the wheel-like shapes on the shoulders and legs are almost definitely wheels, because when i look closely at the shape on the the right shoulder (from my view) i can see details of wheel-tracks
-the feet on the body seem much more mechanical, compared to armor-suited units like the marauder which has almost rounded feet, this has pointed robotic looking ones
-the shields that the unit is carrying don't look like they are being held, but more that they are attached to the end of the 'arms' making this being a mechanical unit even more likely

So i'm almost certain this unit ties in with the hellion.

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BushidoSnipr

United States910 Posts

October 05 2011 19:08 GMT

#1563

I think it would be awesome if it was like a terran zealot like thing

NuKedUFirst

Canada3139 Posts

October 05 2011 19:09 GMT

#1564

It's a a tank or something. Look at above picture, the "shields" you think you see are tracks. By the feet they are tires, The cannon has an igniter or a sight so fire or laser?

nojok

France15845 Posts

October 05 2011 19:12 GMT

#1565

It's the medic with medic gun from TF2. Maybe they will do dropship to be dropship and add medic so the drops became less powerful as you'll have to decide to include pure marines/marauders or add medics and dropships would only have the drop purpose. And it would be an armored unit so it doesn't suffer too much from banelings.

Or maybe it's a movable living forcefield!

two.watup

United States371 Posts

October 05 2011 19:12 GMT

#1566

Blizzards just kidding, they're giving every race the Colossus, and toss can make them from Gateways now.

Deleted User 26513

2376 Posts

October 05 2011 19:13 GMT

#1567

I have a question. If this is transformed hellion, what happens with the guy that drives the hellion after the transformation ?

drcatellino

Canada346 Posts

October 05 2011 19:14 GMT

#1568

Before clicking on this thread I tought « Whatever the new unit image is going to be, people on TL are going to be really mad about it and say how bad Blizzard are and repeat the same things about balance and people will make list of SC2 units that should be removed from the game and list of units that should be back (all BW units) and people will say how much they miss BW and it’s going to be a massive nostalgia thread. And as always, most people will act like they should be the ones designing the game as Blizzard clearly have no idea what they are doing and they hate the ridiculous gimmicky game. And then they will go back to play and watch it for thousands of hours and then they will go back to this thread to repeat how much they hate it.”

Turns out I was not far from truth.

I think the hellion/transformer is a good idea. I sense some kind of a mix between marauder, hellion and goliath unit. I think they might be throwing off the marauder to put this unit on. Then maybe this could fulfil the void left by the damage tanking rauder.

Or what if this was a fusion between a Reaper and a Hellion ? They said they wanted to remove or expand the role of the reaper. This might be their solution. And it could throw down mines.

Endymion

United States3701 Posts

October 05 2011 19:14 GMT

#1569

IMO it's going to be a morph for the hellion like other people are saying. I think it's going to be super defensive from the front (hense the shields), but then have a slow turn speed and take more damage from the back. The only reason I think this is because in alpha before the diamond back was removed this was how the thor was (it did a lot of damage to targets in front of it, but it turned really slowly so the diamondback was supposed to counter it by microing behind it). Some possible uses would be putting them infront of marine/marauder balls to protect from blings/lings/ultras, or even using them as impromt walls early on in the game. This is all just speculation of course, but I think it sounds a lot like blizzard's earlier unit ideas.

And just so that you heard it here first, they're removing the mothership, colossi, thor, reaver, corrupter, and overseer from multiplayer for HOTS. They're bringing back reavers and buffing storm, bringing back goliaths, and giving sight back to normal overlords. Sorry Zerg still isn't getting lurkers!

humbre

353 Posts

October 05 2011 19:24 GMT

#1570

On October 06 2011 04:14 Endymion wrote:
IMO it's going to be a morph for the hellion like other people are saying. I think it's going to be super defensive from the front (hense the shields), but then have a slow turn speed and take more damage from the back. The only reason I think this is because in alpha before the diamond back was removed this was how the thor was (it did a lot of damage to targets in front of it, but it turned really slowly so the diamondback was supposed to counter it by microing behind it). Some possible uses would be putting them infront of marine/marauder balls to protect from blings/lings/ultras, or even using them as impromt walls early on in the game. This is all just speculation of course, but I think it sounds a lot like blizzard's earlier unit ideas.

And just so that you heard it here first, they're removing the mothership, colossi, thor, reaver, corrupter, and overseer from multiplayer for HOTS. They're bringing back reavers and buffing storm, bringing back goliaths, and giving sight back to normal overlords. Sorry Zerg still isn't getting lurkers!

i sure hope so!

drcatellino

Canada346 Posts

October 05 2011 19:24 GMT

#1571

Also, the model somehow reminds me of the reaper

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You heard it here first guy: Reapellion.

FiveOneFour

8 Posts

October 05 2011 19:25 GMT

#1572

This is a siege type hellion.
It will be produced at a tech lab equipped factory and will bring gas into the production equation.
It will sacrifice mobility for extra armor.
It will also have a secondary weapon usable only in siege mode.
It is likely to have a bit more range since it shoots from higher.
It it unlikely to be very AA capable as viking is already a very assertive unit in that field that can be easily produced, it does tho require a starport, which is a key balance issue.
It is unlikely to totally replace the marauder.
It will move at a speed comparable to a grounded viking.
It is meant to transition out a hellion heavy early build and have the hellion early game less exposed.
It is unlikely that we should see it change mode when it is in offensive position as it will be a sitting duck while it transforms.

At this point im dead convinced this is hellion based.
Please see picture.

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regards

boredrex

United States137 Posts

October 05 2011 19:27 GMT

#1573

I really don't think this is going to tie in with the hellion... More likely a combat engineer. Maybe that thing on the top is a low powered laser, so the unit has a similar attack to the sentry. Maybe it will heal mech units (though I imagine more like a queens transfusion than not), so it carries spare tires on it.

So here's what I expect: just speculation (or what I think would be pretty cool)

Combat Engineer
Barracks unit that requires a Factory and attached tech lab
Cost 50/100, probably 30 seconds, 2 supply
spawns with 50 energy
80 health, 1 armor maybe, speed same as other infantry
Laser rifle (attack that has 5 DPS) or maybe a weak flamethrower (3 DPS, 6 DPS vs. light)
75 energy - spider mine like ability, may have to be researched
ALSO, possibly instead a line attack like Psi storm, dealing instant 40 damage in a line maybe?
50 energy - Field Repair - 100 HP back to mechanical unit

Giving a fairly slow unit spider mine ability would require spider mine laying to have escorts to keep them safe, adding an interesting facet to the game. I always thought just giving hellions spider mines would be such a cop out.

Edit: just saw the majorly enhanced image above - I now think that the arm on top is a flame thrower, and it carries a weak, concussive rifle

ilikeredheads

Canada1995 Posts

October 05 2011 19:27 GMT

#1574

Due to the success of the Viking's transformable design, Terran engineers have began to incorporate similar mechanics to other existing mech units in the Terran arsenal. One such design is the Hellion Mk.II, a Hellion that can transform from an agile vehicle to a more armored walker. To further expand the Hellion's role on the battlefield and provide better support for a Terran ground army, the new walker mode sacrifices mobility for improved durability. It addresses the need to protect marines from baneling attacks by using its hardened armor plating to block baneling movement or absorb its splash damage.

Ignorant prodigy

United States385 Posts

October 05 2011 19:30 GMT

#1575

viking transforming was a success?

really?

FiveOneFour

8 Posts

October 05 2011 19:31 GMT

#1576

On October 06 2011 04:27 boredrex wrote:
I really don't think this is going to tie in with the hellion... More likely a combat engineer. Maybe that thing on the top is a low powered laser, so the unit has a similar attack to the sentry. Maybe it will heal mech units (though I imagine more like a queens transfusion than not), so it carries spare tires on it.

The symetry of the spare tires and their position makes them likely to suffer durability issues during combat, their current position is not a logical 'spare tire' position. The way they are positionned at the moment is very assertive that this unit can move on wheels, i dont think theres even a debate there.

HostilSpike

United Kingdom62 Posts

October 05 2011 19:32 GMT

#1577

Think bigger... Think Hellion/Firebat version of a Thor.

phisku

Belgium864 Posts

October 05 2011 19:33 GMT

#1578

will be a cac unit.

kilergrunt

United States263 Posts