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caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
October 05 2011 02:36 GMT
#401
On October 05 2011 11:35 Beorning wrote:
Gave it a shot[image loading]
New SCV with double combat shields, that can build destructible rocks.



I shouldn't have, but I laughed.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
aaronlolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
134 Posts
October 05 2011 02:37 GMT
#402
On October 05 2011 10:12 Beece wrote:
Whos that pokemon!


Best post in thread. You forgot a question mark though homie >_<
lSasquatchl
Profile Joined February 2011
United States309 Posts
October 05 2011 02:37 GMT
#403
More detail
[image loading]
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
October 05 2011 02:37 GMT
#404
a unit that is literally bio-mech????

blueflame concussive shell stimmed yamato siege terminator?

OR is this (T)Flash after his latest surgery?
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 02:41:41
October 05 2011 02:38 GMT
#405
On October 05 2011 11:33 GigaFlop wrote:
[image loading]
It's definitely something like a viking, but ground-based. Transforms between wheel-movement and bipedal movement. The shields would be for side armor plating when in wheel form, and maybe have some kind of armament for biped mode.


I'm gonna call it a bio/mech hybrid (like the SCV).. Either replaces the hellion or is an upgrade to the hellion.

"Hellion mode"
- mech
- high movement speed
- very slow attack speed
- long linear splash,

"Walker mode"
- Bio/Mech
- Significantly lower movement speed
- Splash is Cone instead of Line (Firebat-style); Splash range drops while splash radius increases
- Gains stim (still not as fast as hellion movement speed + higher attack speed)
- Healed by medivacs.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
October 05 2011 02:38 GMT
#406
Wall-e.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Shankapotamus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 02:38:27
October 05 2011 02:38 GMT
#407
looks like wall-e on steroids

edit: guy above me, high five :D
rlordisme
Profile Joined July 2011
United States11 Posts
October 05 2011 02:38 GMT
#408
It's Optimus Prime! Why doesn't he have a sword?
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
October 05 2011 02:39 GMT
#409
On October 05 2011 11:33 caradoc wrote:
Alright, so this link (http://i.imgur.com/j52j0.png, and the above post) essentially proves that it is a second form for the hellion.

Lets attempt to divine what its combat role will be.

First we need to note that the balancing team has consistently balanced in such a way so as to minimize overlap in units combat roles (i.e. rebalancing the thor in early beta to more of an assault unit so it didn't crowd into siege tank territory).

That done, lets ask some questions:

Q: Does terran need any type of anti air?
A: No, marines + vikings + thors more than cover this area.

Q: is this a harass unit?
A: most likely not, the hellion already does this (along with reaper/banshee/drops), and it seems silly that walking would give it more mobility or other harass potential.

Q: Assault unit?
A: most likely not, marauders accomplish this in the early game, while thors fill their niche nicely. In addition, current Terran units already have a complement of dmg to light and armored, so it will most likely not serve a direct combat role. (EDIT: though see below)

Q: What about positional control?
A: Siege Tanks do this to an extent, though there is currently little in the way of positional control for bio compositions.

Since we've established what it isn't, what is left seems to be a fairly narrow range of support and/or short-mid range positional control.

So either it gives a small area affect buff/debuff, or it transforms, sacrificing mobility for larger radius splash? Possibly more like a firebat, or a wide area flame turret. Don't think its a meat-shield, since hellions are pretty lightly armored.... thoughts?

You should ask :
Q: Do they remove a unit to make this one take his role ?
A: Maybe
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Grndr101
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium125 Posts
October 05 2011 02:39 GMT
#410
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 05 2011 11:33 GigaFlop wrote:
[image loading]
It's definitely something like a viking, but ground-based. Transforms between wheel-movement and bipedal movement. The shields would be for side armor plating when in wheel form, and maybe have some kind of armament for biped mode.

Also, open the original picture in paint or something, and just mess with the brightness + contrast. Helps show some more lines.



I guess the best explanation is that it's a transformation for the hellion that sacrifices splash for durability/onehit dps
CreatureSC2
Profile Joined July 2010
United States156 Posts
October 05 2011 02:39 GMT
#411
What is this transformers 3? ROFL
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1247 Posts
October 05 2011 02:39 GMT
#412
On October 05 2011 11:35 Beorning wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Gave it a shot[image loading]

New SCV with double combat shields, that can build destructible rocks.

Major lols were had.

Mech melee unit is my guess.
Mutation complete.
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
October 05 2011 02:39 GMT
#413
On October 05 2011 10:11 Magrath wrote:
It's a mule mixed with a marauder. I can see it now. Battling protoss with one appendage and being op with the other.


Wait... which side is battling the protoss?

JK, JK, JK. Only the mule is OP.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
October 05 2011 02:40 GMT
#414
WALL-E
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
iRon aka bananajuice
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany124 Posts
October 05 2011 02:40 GMT
#415
they might remove the hellion and let this produce in a techlab barrack, so there is no more early game mass hellion stuff vs zerg. i think the morph to the car mode should be an upgrade
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
October 05 2011 02:41 GMT
#416
Well, the turret is clearly the hellion turret.

The circular things are clearly wheels.

Looks like a hellion transformer.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 05 2011 02:42 GMT
#417
this better not be a fucking cliff jumping hellion
starleague forever
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 05 2011 02:42 GMT
#418
I think they will remove the hellion, and add this firebat-esque unit
o choro é livre
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 02:46:09
October 05 2011 02:42 GMT
#419
hopefully they remove hellion/marauder and this maraduer-firebat replaces both. So is this like the infested bunker? it's not actually a unit just a troll?

I'm actually guessing, that vehicle mode is flame mode and bionic mode is conc shells, so yeah a combo between marauder hellion looks just about right.

Probably will be a tech lab barracks unit. Requires factory to research transform into vehicle mode. Basically reaper speed will be replaced by this upgrade and reapers/marauders/hellions will be removed.
Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
October 05 2011 02:43 GMT
#420
Maybe it's a goliath firebat, fire splash damage to air, and a power melee attack by punching with his giant shields.
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