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TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
October 05 2011 02:30 GMT
#381
On October 05 2011 11:24 Open_ wrote:
Zerg expansion, but release a terran silhouette first T_T


That's the way blizzard works. Cater to masses -_-
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Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
October 05 2011 02:31 GMT
#382
Anyone else think this is going to be a tier 1-1.5 spellcaster ala the sentry?
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
October 05 2011 02:31 GMT
#383
On October 05 2011 11:30 TUski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 11:24 Open_ wrote:
Zerg expansion, but release a terran silhouette first T_T


That's the way blizzard works. Cater to masses -_-

yeah except they already said they are releasing the silhouettes based on campaign order (tzp)
Maruprime.
velvetone
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia91 Posts
October 05 2011 02:31 GMT
#384
alows hellions to stand up like goliaths and hit air. sorta like the viking mode.. definatly wheels + flame thrower ez pz
Denvar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States34 Posts
October 05 2011 02:32 GMT
#385
I think it might be a ground viking re-design? They could use some reworking, and might fix TvP.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10343 Posts
October 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#386
Looks like a hellion in Walker form. I swear to god, if they give Terran a bio unit with splash damage that morphs into the fastest thing on the ground and gets healed by medevacs, I will loose my mind.


This made me lol so hard xD. But if this is true, then they will add equally epic stuff to Protoss and zerg :D well i mean they should and probably would.

Anyway looking back yea there's wheels at the feet definitely looks like a hellion that transforms. But for what purpose? hm

Perhaps it will be a vulture, and morph into this walker form it would use the flamethrower and serve like a hellion?
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GigaFlop
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 02:45:53
October 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#387
[image loading]
It's definitely something like a viking, but ground-based. Transforms between wheel-movement and bipedal movement. The shields would be for side armor plating when in wheel form, and maybe have some kind of armament for biped mode.

Also, open the original picture in paint or something, and just mess with the brightness + contrast. Helps show some more lines.

In response to the below post:
I think this might replace the Hellion altogether, now. Wheel mode for moving quickly with line AOE, but biped mode to do some sort of widespread AOE. Think of it like a robot or something, doing a sweeping arc. Remember Dragon Tanks from C&C: Generals? Firestorm? Something like that while in biped mode.

Also, I predict bipedal speed of 2.25. Just saying.
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caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 02:34:02
October 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#388
Alright, so this link (http://i.imgur.com/j52j0.png, and the above post) essentially proves that it is a second form for the hellion.

Lets attempt to divine what its combat role will be.

First we need to note that the balancing team has consistently balanced in such a way so as to minimize overlap in units combat roles (i.e. rebalancing the thor in early beta to more of an assault unit so it didn't crowd into siege tank territory).

That done, lets ask some questions:

Q: Does terran need any type of anti air?
A: No, marines + vikings + thors more than cover this area.

Q: is this a harass unit?
A: most likely not, the hellion already does this (along with reaper/banshee/drops), and it seems silly that walking would give it more mobility or other harass potential.

Q: Assault unit?
A: most likely not, marauders accomplish this in the early game, while thors fill their niche nicely. In addition, current Terran units already have a complement of dmg to light and armored, so it will most likely not serve a direct combat role. (EDIT: though see below)

Q: What about positional control?
A: Siege Tanks do this to an extent, though there is currently little in the way of positional control for bio compositions.

Since we've established what it isn't, what is left seems to be a fairly narrow range of support and/or short-mid range positional control.

So either it gives a small area affect buff/debuff, or it transforms, sacrificing mobility for larger radius splash? Possibly more like a firebat, or a wide area flame turret. Don't think its a meat-shield, since hellions are pretty lightly armored.... thoughts?
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Papulatus
Profile Joined July 2010
United States669 Posts
October 05 2011 02:34 GMT
#389
On October 05 2011 11:19 Lobotomist wrote:
[image loading]


This is the story of the history of SC2.
4 Corners in a day.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
October 05 2011 02:35 GMT
#390
I know what it is...

proof that blizzard employees don't watch GSL.
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
October 05 2011 02:35 GMT
#391
Alright I'm calling this as a transformed hellion simply as blizzards attempt to make mech more viable. If it's bio, then zerg needs another slow strong unit that is countered by ghosts and protoss needs another aoe unit. So i think it's for mech.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 02:35:57
October 05 2011 02:35 GMT
#392
Guys, guys.

It's STETTMAN HERO they're adding heroes to SC2 woo!!!

jk probably not xD

oh god what is this

FUCK YOU BLIZZARD YOUR SO GOOD AT MAKING US HYPED UP AND DIE CUS OF IT T_T <3
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Beorning
Profile Joined June 2011
United States243 Posts
October 05 2011 02:35 GMT
#393
Gave it a shot[image loading]
New SCV with double combat shields, that can build destructible rocks.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
October 05 2011 02:36 GMT
#394
On October 05 2011 11:29 koonst wrote:
in my opinion itys a mech unit.. its a transforming. tank . / robot that can shoot up.. maybe a tank upgrade?


Doesn't look like it can shoot up. Gun on top looks lateral only.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 05 2011 02:36 GMT
#395
As long as the "Hell-rauder" replaces another unit, I have no problems. Please replace the Marauder with it, my day will be made.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10343 Posts
October 05 2011 02:36 GMT
#396
On October 05 2011 11:35 Beorning wrote:
Gave it a shot[image loading]
New SCV with double combat shields, that can build destructible rocks.


OMG LOLOL THIS IS FUCKING GOOD!!!!
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nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
October 05 2011 02:36 GMT
#397
The shield side is easily defined but its right arm is not. From what i can tell, the right arm looks like another shield held horizontally (or the hood of the hellion)

my guess is it is an upgraded firebat with a shield allowing it to tank better, and a single flamethrower adapted from the hellion for personal use. The top bit is pure cosmetic (or a camera so the person can see above shield/ flames)


Just for those wondering, the unit we're teasing in this image is planned to be a new multiplayer unit. Stay tuned for more mysterious pictures of new Heart of the Swarm multiplayer units!


So there is a possibility that this unit won't even be in muliplayer, much like the diamondback >_<

+ Show Spoiler +
When you look at it closly, the two circle things on its shoulder looks like wheel and the same could be said at its ankles. The 2 "shields" could be the hood of the hellion split apart and the top bit is obviously the flamethrower. Maybe the terrans adapted the viking technology to a hellion. Or maybe i should just step away from the computer and go to sleep.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
October 05 2011 02:36 GMT
#398
the question is - why would you ever want to transform a hellion into a slower moving unit? Because it can lay mines when transformed
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
October 05 2011 02:36 GMT
#399
By the last expansion, every terran unit will be able to do everything.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
October 05 2011 02:36 GMT
#400
Just as long as they are adding this and taking atleast 2 units away then I am fine I guess.
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