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On October 01 2011 14:45 Mordiford wrote:
I don't know if I'd watch televised Starcraft unless it's done really well and really big and I don't think that could happen due to the nature of the game. I think that having pre-planned pauses for commercials would ruin it for live audiences which I feel really add to the experience and are one of the reasons I like watching MLG events, it would also have an impact on the gameplay. Pauses clearly affect the players, when you're strenuously maintaining 200+ effective APM for 20 minutes and suddenly you stop so they can play a few commercials, it could potentially throw you off.
This is a pretty dumb thing to say to be honest. Have you never watched football (soccer)? There are no breaks for 45 minutes, so very obviously no commercials are played during that time.
I'm sure they'd manage.
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On October 01 2011 15:36 Jinsho wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 14:45 Mordiford wrote:
I don't know if I'd watch televised Starcraft unless it's done really well and really big and I don't think that could happen due to the nature of the game. I think that having pre-planned pauses for commercials would ruin it for live audiences which I feel really add to the experience and are one of the reasons I like watching MLG events, it would also have an impact on the gameplay. Pauses clearly affect the players, when you're strenuously maintaining 200+ effective APM for 20 minutes and suddenly you stop so they can play a few commercials, it could potentially throw you off.
This is a pretty dumb thing to say to be honest. Have you never watched football (soccer)? There are no breaks for 45 minutes, so very obviously no commercials are played during that time. I'm sure they'd manage.
You realize that's not the only issue I was addressing, perhaps I was overly general, but despite Football's viewer base being absolutely massive, there's also a fairly set expectation for the length of time of a game. They could quite easily have someone ready to play commercials whenever a Starcraft game ends but you could also run into advertising issues if say on any given day, you have 50 minute TvTs back to back for 5 hours. I'm not sure if live Starcraft coverage would at all be possible for an event like MLG simply because of the volatility, for show-matches it could sort of work.
Also, none of these issues are unresolvable, I'm just not sure what kind of product would be viable on ESPN. Sundance is a smart guy, I'm sure he's thought most of this stuff through a dozen times but ultimately the only reasonable broadcasting format I can see is mainly pre-recorded, to which my response would be, Sorry, not interested.
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On October 01 2011 15:36 Jinsho wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 14:45 Mordiford wrote:
I don't know if I'd watch televised Starcraft unless it's done really well and really big and I don't think that could happen due to the nature of the game. I think that having pre-planned pauses for commercials would ruin it for live audiences which I feel really add to the experience and are one of the reasons I like watching MLG events, it would also have an impact on the gameplay. Pauses clearly affect the players, when you're strenuously maintaining 200+ effective APM for 20 minutes and suddenly you stop so they can play a few commercials, it could potentially throw you off.
This is a pretty dumb thing to say to be honest. Have you never watched football (soccer)? There are no breaks for 45 minutes, so very obviously no commercials are played during that time. I'm sure they'd manage.
That's because soccer is ridiculously popular. Enormous companies will cover the cost of commercial time (match presented by Pepsi!) -- Kingston Hyper X won't be able to cover 45 minutes worth of commercial time on ESPN2, this I promise you. We're a loooooooong way away from this kind of scenario.
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I probably wouldn't watch it. Because it's on the TV, it's not gonna be the same interactive experience I'm used to. The games might end up being shred to pieces because airing time on TV is too expensive and they have to show as much content as possible. I don't know, I just think that TV is an inferior platform.
If they take a hint from how eurosport approaches snooker, I would maybe give it a try.
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if sundance makes this happen, he may turn me gay. lol
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how much is espn2? in canada
im using rogers
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I voted No. I one of these guys who doesn't event have a TV anymore. I don't really know if sc2 is adapted to TV, honestly isthink it would be the same than watching on the internet, but with less interactivity and less liberty.
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I don't know how anyone could vote no. Even if you don't have a TV or don't plan on watching SC2 on TV (like me) you have to understand that having it on such a big network like ESPN will bring in so many viewers and give SC2 mainstream recognition. The poll isn't asking whether or not you will watch on TV, the poll is asking whether or not SC2 should be on TV, and the only answer is yes.
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"MLGSundance Sundance DiGiovanni
Well - @HuskyStarcraft i hope you don't mind that I used you as one of my caster examples during the meeting."
Sounds like husky would be invited to cast assuming it all goes through with ESPN. I am pleased as Husky has really improved, and his beloved husketeers can only be helpful when it comes to gathering an audience.
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I would put it on at my Pizza place everytime it's on one of the tv's.
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Whatever caster they put on ESPN2, it has to be someone who can speak to people new to the game.
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On October 01 2011 16:52 Zzoram wrote:
Whatever caster they put on ESPN2, it has to be someone who can speak to people new to the game.
day9 imo
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I dont want this. Honestly, the more i think about it, the more sense it seems to have on your laptop. If you really wanted to have it on tv, get a cable and hook it up, its the same thing! the internet is easier, more accessible and just better in general. We dont need it on TV. Not all of the starcraft community could tune in at the specific time, which is why most of us need vods and replays. I just dont think its worth it
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In regards to commercials they can totally work around the game itself, they do it for soccer and have certain breaks during tennis between certain games or sets. So if its a big enough deal to have starcraft on espn you'd watch it because you wouldn't have to worry about the production and when to run commercials you just have to enjoy it and help esports grow.
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Not only would I watch it, but I would demand that everyone I know watch it as well. In fact, I would tell them there would be a quiz afterwards, and if they failed, I would never speak to them again. This includes siblings parents spouses etc.
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why are people even questioning if sc can work on tv? they clearly already did it in korea, its obviously doable.
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,y god it would be awesome!!! mAs long as we can get it in the UK haha, not actually sure, know we can get ESPN but they charge extra!!!
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I love all the "no" hipsters.
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Fuck YEAAHHH I would watch it. Well, if I have ESPN 2 that is. I think it's buried somewhere amongst my other channels.
But anyway, this would be really amazing for the growth of SC2 and eSports. ESPN is definitely NOT hurting said electronic sports if they do this.
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The one thing I see about this...(sorry if it has been said before) is that I don't think there is anyway this could actually hurt Starcraft in anyway. If the show ends up flopping, all the same fans that are here now are still going to be here. If ESPN pulls the plug, I don't see anyone just saying "Screw this game, I'm not watching it anymore!"
If it gets televised, things can only go up. Once again, even if it flops, we could still have a pretty strong influx of thousands of watchers/promoters/sponsors and players show up. Sounds fairly slam-dunk to me. Plus ESPN knows how to broadcast their stuff. They have been the leading sports networks for a long time for a reason.
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