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On October 01 2011 16:23 Jetaap wrote:
I voted No. I one of these guys who doesn't event have a TV anymore. I don't really know if sc2 is adapted to TV, honestly isthink it would be the same than watching on the internet, but with less interactivity and less liberty.
Me too, haven't had a TV for 6 years now. TV is a very outdated platform, internet and on-demand entertainment via VODs etc is where its at. I actually uses only VOD's at SC2, as Im too busy when its live.
We have a good thing going on with SC2 now. I would hope we can stay on our ground and make it better. I am very happy with GSL right now, but quality overall could be even better.
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Do you pay to watch ESPN 2?
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On October 01 2011 17:36 IveReturned wrote:
Do you pay to watch ESPN 2?
You pay for cable so yes technically you do.
To all the people saying TV is an outdated platform. I just lol in your face and walk away. Maybe to a 20yr old atm TV is outdated compared to all the technology we have now but thats not the point in this thread. The point is that bringing it to TV, and the biggest sports channel in argueably the world, would bring so much mainstream attention to SC2 that we desperately need.
Who cares if TV is gonna be phased out in 10-20yrs. We are talking about now, not some hipster future...
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Haven't had a TV since 2006, so no (besides I am not even in the United States). Livestreams are really enough for me.
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TV would be good to make sc2 more mainstream but please keep it in the same format has GSL, MLG etc.. don't just sell out to make more money or else you will fail like CPL, CGS etc..
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Depends on the production. If they want to show commercials in the middle of the game then I can't watch.
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If 35m people tune in to watch an epic season finale of a soap, Im sure being in a big Tv compant will make starcraft mainstream.
Hmm... I think I could watch ESPN...
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Nothing's wrong with TV.
I'm going to say no though, unfortunately for a few reasons.
There's 0 ways that SC2 is better on TV than online for the viewer. ESPN will absolutely not be showing 30 minute games (or Rain v Boxer 1 hr games) without commercials. In short, it can't be live, or we're going to miss some of the action.
The other argument is sponsorship/exposure. I don't think having SC2 online is going to provide lots of exposure to be honest - this isn't prime time TV (eg. 7 PM), this is midday or mid-night (not midnight) showings where they usually insert Fishing, Moto, or other obsolete and unpopular sports. Fishing hasn't taken off as a sport - I have no reason to believe that SC2 would through the promotion of ESPN 2.
I believe it would also subject SC2 to ridicule. ESPN's viewership is pretty robust in terms of feedback and to the ombudsman; I see potential issues when everyone complains that SC2 "isn't a real sport" (poker be damned). I think it would end up bombing after a few runs and then get cut anyway.
In short... not really going to benefit the scene in the long-run, it would get dropped after a short period of time, and it might cause interruptions or problems with the games (or show prerecorded which isn't nearly as exciting anyway).
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On October 01 2011 17:47 IveReturned wrote:
If 35m people tune in to watch an epic season finale of a soap, Im sure being in a big Tv compant will make starcraft mainstream.
Hmm... I think I could watch ESPN...
You'd be crazy if you think even 1m people would be watching the finals of MLG. This isn't being shown at 6 PM. This would be shown at 3 AM or something to fill up time.
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I voted No.
Starcraft doesn't have enough viewers by far to make it interesting for a tv company.
Example:
Last MLG had 250k consequetive viewers if I recall correctly.
Let's say 150k watched Starcraft.
Out of those 150k people there's only a certain % American, probably like 50%, so 75k American viewers.
Out of those 75k not every1 will watch ESPN2, so let's say 50k people that will watch it on TV.
That would get cancelled after 10 minutes.
Don't think millions of people are gonna tune in just because a random game they have never heard of is on TV.
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Depends who's casting of course. Still I'd say yes!
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On October 01 2011 17:37 Zooper31 wrote:You pay for cable so yes technically you do. To all the people saying TV is an outdated platform. I just lol in your face and walk away. Maybe to a 20yr old atm TV is outdated compared to all the technology we have now but thats not the point in this thread. The point is that bringing it to TV, and the biggest sports channel in argueably the world, would bring so much mainstream attention to SC2 that we desperately need. Who cares if TV is gonna be phased out in 10-20yrs. We are talking about now, not some hipster future...
Just curious, but do SC2 desperately need more mainstream attention? Why?
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what if the games happen as a bo3 or something ?
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Starcraft on "mainstream" television would be huge! Really hoping this actually happens.
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On October 01 2011 18:38 crappen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 17:37 Zooper31 wrote:On October 01 2011 17:36 IveReturned wrote:
Do you pay to watch ESPN 2? You pay for cable so yes technically you do. To all the people saying TV is an outdated platform. I just lol in your face and walk away. Maybe to a 20yr old atm TV is outdated compared to all the technology we have now but thats not the point in this thread. The point is that bringing it to TV, and the biggest sports channel in argueably the world, would bring so much mainstream attention to SC2 that we desperately need. Who cares if TV is gonna be phased out in 10-20yrs. We are talking about now, not some hipster future... Just curious, but do SC2 desperately need more mainstream attention? Why?
bigger is better
progamers get more money
streams get more viewers
blizzard takes more of an interest in their game
I mean honestly, how would it being mainstream not be a good thing? I guess you think Brood War was "too mainstream"?
And I also lol at the retards complaining about how TV is outdated. It's still the #1 media outlet. Are you saying that the fact Brood War was on 2 channels in Korea didn't help its popularity? Some people just can't think for themselves...
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As long as the content is available for me as well... i want to be able to view it online as well, but a lot of american networks block their content on the web to other nations. (Which is stupid, because the chance is <0,01% that a dutch broadcasters buys the broadcasting rights... if only they made the content available online with a lot of commercials, they would make more money off of me.)
I watch online stream on my tv most of the time, and only real television about once a month. I don't really care about what's on tv. Would be good however if this brings more sponsors into the game.
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No, what's the point of it when you can watch it any time at the internet?
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As long as it doesnt cut into my NFL viewing im all for it.
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On October 01 2011 19:04 Technique wrote:
No, what's the point of it when you can watch it any time at the internet?
The point is for Starcraft as a sport in the west to grow and reach out to more people. Broadcasting the game on regular TV can help spread the culture of esports over a long term. I think something like this is necessary if we want the general public to acknowledge what we already know is an incredibly complex, exciting and interesting game.
Edit: I'd also be very surprised if the MLG as an organization ignores its online viewers. People like us, on sites like these are what made the Pro Circuit possible. Simply giving up on live streaming and the internet community would be insane.
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The question was "would you watch it", and even though I don't live in America and I can't watch ESPN2, I would NEVER watch SC2 on TV if I had the choice to watch it on a stream. I mean, constant commercial breaks during games are enough to put me off, but additionally you would have casting that would entirely be made for people who have absolutely no idea what Starcraft is. And it's not like MLG could have this huge-ass ESPN deal but still offer free HD streaming on their website. TV corporations want exclusive deals. (Plus, I like Starcraft and that's why I like to watch it. I don't give a shit about how much money idra or sundance or incontrol can make off it so I don't think we "desperately need mainstream attention.)
I know, OGN and MBC were important for BWs success in Korea, but that started 10 years ago, before everybody had access to high quality online streams.
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