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atmuh
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States246 Posts
September 30 2011 23:08 GMT
#201
On October 01 2011 07:58 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea.

I agree with the concerns about time constraints and advertising, but what would be wrong with a SC2 Sportscenter type show? I think that'd be pretty fantastic, and is probably the most viable. Maybe a recap of a past event.

I doubt they could do a current event, and split the online viewers up.

This is more than likely what it would end up being. Just because Soccer can be done without commercials doesn't mean something new to the network would be done the same way. It is HIGHLY unlikely that commercials will be skipped for something like SC2. You'd have the standard thing where there's a commercial every 10 minutes or so, and I'm not sure how much the majority of people who watch SC2 on streams on a regular basis would enjoy something so different. They would probably watch it the first day just because they're excited about it but after seeing the presented product they would quickly go back to favoring online streams. I would be ok with a sportscenter style thing though as it's something I already watch quite a bit for other sports.
BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
September 30 2011 23:09 GMT
#202
On October 01 2011 06:57 Modernist wrote:
While it would be awesome (voted yes), I don't think LIVE Starcraft would survive on American television. Pre-recorded wouldn't do it justice either.

I agree and think most people are under the illusion that there is no risk of SC2 going on TV and will automatically become what Brood War is in Korea. I don't think the SC2 community is big enough at the moment to support wherever SC2 lands on ESPN, and dont want SC2 to fail which will end up setting a bad precedent for other networks looking at hosting an esport.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
September 30 2011 23:09 GMT
#203
vote yes and reply on twitter! Your making Elly cry!!

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When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 23:10:23
September 30 2011 23:09 GMT
#204
On October 01 2011 08:08 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea.


What hour-long TvTs? One hour long games (real time) are extremely rare, actually the longest I remember was 58 minutes Jinro vs Ensnare off the top of my head, and those are Blizzard minutes. Even the Goody games I've seen haven't been longer than that, despite the urban myth.

I'm pretty sure that the average SC2 game is well under 30 "real" minutes, if not 20. In the extremely rare case of a 60-70 Blizzard-minute game, I think we can live with a round of commercials being played at the right time.

why deal with commercials IN THE MIDDLE OF A GAME when you can watch the whole game with NO COMMERCIALS online??

What does having SC on TV get you? NOTHING EXCEPT LESS ENJOYMENT. Now if ESPN promised to do it exactly like Korean TV, then it'd be worth talking about. But I don't see that happening.
blabberrrrr
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
September 30 2011 23:10 GMT
#205
yes....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
September 30 2011 23:10 GMT
#206
On October 01 2011 08:08 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 08:04 Sandro wrote:
On October 01 2011 08:02 blabber wrote:
But really, WHAT IS WRONG WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT NOW? Why is there this notion that Esports has to be shown on television? Any SC2 broadcast on (American) television will probably be worse than anything you can watch online

What I don't get about this line of argument is why we can't have the ability to watch SC2 online and on television.

Its not like we have to choose one or the other or give up entirely on the internet for television.

because SC on American television would be less enjoyable for us hardcore viewers than on online

And that is a bad thing why? Making it more mainstream = more viewers = more $$$/sponsorships
Hossinaut
Profile Joined June 2011
United States453 Posts
September 30 2011 23:11 GMT
#207
OMG FUCK YES
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
September 30 2011 23:11 GMT
#208
WHAAAAT!?!?!?!?!

Sick!!!!!!!!

Of course I would tune in!
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
September 30 2011 23:12 GMT
#209
I can't believe some people are arguing against this. It's not like it's not going to help.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
September 30 2011 23:12 GMT
#210
On October 01 2011 08:09 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 08:08 Talin wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea.


What hour-long TvTs? One hour long games (real time) are extremely rare, actually the longest I remember was 58 minutes Jinro vs Ensnare off the top of my head, and those are Blizzard minutes. Even the Goody games I've seen haven't been longer than that, despite the urban myth.

I'm pretty sure that the average SC2 game is well under 30 "real" minutes, if not 20. In the extremely rare case of a 60-70 Blizzard-minute game, I think we can live with a round of commercials being played at the right time.

why deal with commercials IN THE MIDDLE OF A GAME when you can watch the whole game with NO COMMERCIALS online??

What does having SC on TV get you? NOTHING EXCEPT LESS ENJOYMENT. Now if ESPN promised to do it exactly like Korean TV, then it'd be worth talking about. But I don't see that happening.


Because commercials in the middle of the game will be EXTREMELY RARE, and vast majority of games will fit into the schedule nicely.

So there's really nothing to "deal with", you're making it sound like every game is 2 hours long or something. If you're gonna freak out because one game in a hundred or w/e gets interrupted... well I'll only say there are always people complaining about online streams as well, but we live with it.
JSpades
Profile Joined July 2010
United States56 Posts
September 30 2011 23:13 GMT
#211
I think it might actually be beneficial if just the finals were slotted in somewhere on the channel (not sure how the channel formatting works), without much in the way of explanation. A huge number of people were drawn to the game by wandering across a link to YouTube videos during the beta, and without knowing all that much about it got hooked. Trying to turn the game into a big production with excessive hand-holding for non-familiar audiences would likely just turn people off, whereas its just being on and being what it is, could very well peek peoples interest in the weird video game suddenly being shown on ESPN.
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
September 30 2011 23:13 GMT
#212
Yes, We'll.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 30 2011 23:13 GMT
#213
On October 01 2011 08:10 Sandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 08:08 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 08:04 Sandro wrote:
On October 01 2011 08:02 blabber wrote:
But really, WHAT IS WRONG WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT NOW? Why is there this notion that Esports has to be shown on television? Any SC2 broadcast on (American) television will probably be worse than anything you can watch online

What I don't get about this line of argument is why we can't have the ability to watch SC2 online and on television.

Its not like we have to choose one or the other or give up entirely on the internet for television.

because SC on American television would be less enjoyable for us hardcore viewers than on online

And that is a bad thing why? Making it more mainstream = more viewers = more $$$/sponsorships

why the heck do you care about how much sponsorships people you don't know have and how much they get paid?
blabberrrrr
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
September 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#214
On October 01 2011 08:12 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 08:09 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 08:08 Talin wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea.


What hour-long TvTs? One hour long games (real time) are extremely rare, actually the longest I remember was 58 minutes Jinro vs Ensnare off the top of my head, and those are Blizzard minutes. Even the Goody games I've seen haven't been longer than that, despite the urban myth.

I'm pretty sure that the average SC2 game is well under 30 "real" minutes, if not 20. In the extremely rare case of a 60-70 Blizzard-minute game, I think we can live with a round of commercials being played at the right time.

why deal with commercials IN THE MIDDLE OF A GAME when you can watch the whole game with NO COMMERCIALS online??

What does having SC on TV get you? NOTHING EXCEPT LESS ENJOYMENT. Now if ESPN promised to do it exactly like Korean TV, then it'd be worth talking about. But I don't see that happening.


Because commercials in the middle of the game will be EXTREMELY RARE, and vast majority of games will fit into the schedule nicely.

So there's really nothing to "deal with", you're making it sound like every game is 2 hours long or something. If you're gonna freak out because one game in a hundred or w/e gets interrupted... well I'll only say there are always people complaining about online streams as well, but we live with it.


There's a pause button for a reason.
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
September 30 2011 23:14 GMT
#215
If you are somehow against this you are either not a fan, a hipster (fail) or pretty dumb :p
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 30 2011 23:15 GMT
#216
Keep in mind it all depends how well ESPN and MLG handle it. I have a lot of faith in MLG but even this is large for them.

WSVG crashed and burned on CBS (major network) with WoW and CS at their peaks, and a bunch of silly games because they didn't handle it well.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 23:16:20
September 30 2011 23:15 GMT
#217
On October 01 2011 08:14 fant0m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 08:12 Talin wrote:
On October 01 2011 08:09 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 08:08 Talin wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea.


What hour-long TvTs? One hour long games (real time) are extremely rare, actually the longest I remember was 58 minutes Jinro vs Ensnare off the top of my head, and those are Blizzard minutes. Even the Goody games I've seen haven't been longer than that, despite the urban myth.

I'm pretty sure that the average SC2 game is well under 30 "real" minutes, if not 20. In the extremely rare case of a 60-70 Blizzard-minute game, I think we can live with a round of commercials being played at the right time.

why deal with commercials IN THE MIDDLE OF A GAME when you can watch the whole game with NO COMMERCIALS online??

What does having SC on TV get you? NOTHING EXCEPT LESS ENJOYMENT. Now if ESPN promised to do it exactly like Korean TV, then it'd be worth talking about. But I don't see that happening.


Because commercials in the middle of the game will be EXTREMELY RARE, and vast majority of games will fit into the schedule nicely.

So there's really nothing to "deal with", you're making it sound like every game is 2 hours long or something. If you're gonna freak out because one game in a hundred or w/e gets interrupted... well I'll only say there are always people complaining about online streams as well, but we live with it.


There's a pause button for a reason.

you're joking right? You're asking the players to pause the game for like 5 minutes in the middle of a game? No player will want that.
blabberrrrr
JSpades
Profile Joined July 2010
United States56 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 23:16:07
September 30 2011 23:15 GMT
#218
why the heck do you care about how much sponsorships people you don't know have and how much they get paid?


More money being pumped into the game means more Starcraft, and better Starcraft, as players compete harder for higher stakes.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 23:17:56
September 30 2011 23:16 GMT
#219
On October 01 2011 08:12 McFeser wrote:
I can't believe some people are arguing against this. It's not like it's not going to help.


I can't believe why someone cares if this would be US/CAN thing only. That is if you live outside of course.

It would be sick, but i would also be extremely disappointed and mad.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
September 30 2011 23:17 GMT
#220
yea of course i would that would be sick awesome. Maybe i could convince my roommates to watch as well if its on ESP-fucking-N
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