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On October 01 2011 07:58 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks. Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait... Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads. sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea. I agree with the concerns about time constraints and advertising, but what would be wrong with a SC2 Sportscenter type show? I think that'd be pretty fantastic, and is probably the most viable. Maybe a recap of a past event. I doubt they could do a current event, and split the online viewers up.
This is more than likely what it would end up being. Just because Soccer can be done without commercials doesn't mean something new to the network would be done the same way. It is HIGHLY unlikely that commercials will be skipped for something like SC2. You'd have the standard thing where there's a commercial every 10 minutes or so, and I'm not sure how much the majority of people who watch SC2 on streams on a regular basis would enjoy something so different. They would probably watch it the first day just because they're excited about it but after seeing the presented product they would quickly go back to favoring online streams. I would be ok with a sportscenter style thing though as it's something I already watch quite a bit for other sports.
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On October 01 2011 06:57 Modernist wrote:
While it would be awesome (voted yes), I don't think LIVE Starcraft would survive on American television. Pre-recorded wouldn't do it justice either.
I agree and think most people are under the illusion that there is no risk of SC2 going on TV and will automatically become what Brood War is in Korea. I don't think the SC2 community is big enough at the moment to support wherever SC2 lands on ESPN, and dont want SC2 to fail which will end up setting a bad precedent for other networks looking at hosting an esport.
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vote yes and reply on twitter! Your making Elly cry!!
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On October 01 2011 08:08 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks. Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait... Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads. sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea. What hour-long TvTs? One hour long games (real time) are extremely rare, actually the longest I remember was 58 minutes Jinro vs Ensnare off the top of my head, and those are Blizzard minutes. Even the Goody games I've seen haven't been longer than that, despite the urban myth. I'm pretty sure that the average SC2 game is well under 30 "real" minutes, if not 20. In the extremely rare case of a 60-70 Blizzard-minute game, I think we can live with a round of commercials being played at the right time.
why deal with commercials IN THE MIDDLE OF A GAME when you can watch the whole game with NO COMMERCIALS online??
What does having SC on TV get you? NOTHING EXCEPT LESS ENJOYMENT. Now if ESPN promised to do it exactly like Korean TV, then it'd be worth talking about. But I don't see that happening.
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yes....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On October 01 2011 08:08 blabber wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:04 Sandro wrote:On October 01 2011 08:02 blabber wrote:
But really, WHAT IS WRONG WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT NOW? Why is there this notion that Esports has to be shown on television? Any SC2 broadcast on (American) television will probably be worse than anything you can watch online What I don't get about this line of argument is why we can't have the ability to watch SC2 online and on television. Its not like we have to choose one or the other or give up entirely on the internet for television. because SC on American television would be less enjoyable for us hardcore viewers than on online
And that is a bad thing why? Making it more mainstream = more viewers = more $$$/sponsorships
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WHAAAAT!?!?!?!?!
Sick!!!!!!!!
Of course I would tune in!
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I can't believe some people are arguing against this. It's not like it's not going to help.
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On October 01 2011 08:09 blabber wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:08 Talin wrote:On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks. Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait... Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads. sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea. What hour-long TvTs? One hour long games (real time) are extremely rare, actually the longest I remember was 58 minutes Jinro vs Ensnare off the top of my head, and those are Blizzard minutes. Even the Goody games I've seen haven't been longer than that, despite the urban myth. I'm pretty sure that the average SC2 game is well under 30 "real" minutes, if not 20. In the extremely rare case of a 60-70 Blizzard-minute game, I think we can live with a round of commercials being played at the right time. why deal with commercials IN THE MIDDLE OF A GAME when you can watch the whole game with NO COMMERCIALS online?? What does having SC on TV get you? NOTHING EXCEPT LESS ENJOYMENT. Now if ESPN promised to do it exactly like Korean TV, then it'd be worth talking about. But I don't see that happening.
Because commercials in the middle of the game will be EXTREMELY RARE, and vast majority of games will fit into the schedule nicely.
So there's really nothing to "deal with", you're making it sound like every game is 2 hours long or something. If you're gonna freak out because one game in a hundred or w/e gets interrupted... well I'll only say there are always people complaining about online streams as well, but we live with it. 
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I think it might actually be beneficial if just the finals were slotted in somewhere on the channel (not sure how the channel formatting works), without much in the way of explanation. A huge number of people were drawn to the game by wandering across a link to YouTube videos during the beta, and without knowing all that much about it got hooked. Trying to turn the game into a big production with excessive hand-holding for non-familiar audiences would likely just turn people off, whereas its just being on and being what it is, could very well peek peoples interest in the weird video game suddenly being shown on ESPN.
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On October 01 2011 08:10 Sandro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:08 blabber wrote:On October 01 2011 08:04 Sandro wrote:On October 01 2011 08:02 blabber wrote:
But really, WHAT IS WRONG WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT NOW? Why is there this notion that Esports has to be shown on television? Any SC2 broadcast on (American) television will probably be worse than anything you can watch online What I don't get about this line of argument is why we can't have the ability to watch SC2 online and on television. Its not like we have to choose one or the other or give up entirely on the internet for television. because SC on American television would be less enjoyable for us hardcore viewers than on online And that is a bad thing why? Making it more mainstream = more viewers = more $$$/sponsorships
why the heck do you care about how much sponsorships people you don't know have and how much they get paid?
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On October 01 2011 08:12 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:09 blabber wrote:On October 01 2011 08:08 Talin wrote:On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks. Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait... Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads. sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea. What hour-long TvTs? One hour long games (real time) are extremely rare, actually the longest I remember was 58 minutes Jinro vs Ensnare off the top of my head, and those are Blizzard minutes. Even the Goody games I've seen haven't been longer than that, despite the urban myth. I'm pretty sure that the average SC2 game is well under 30 "real" minutes, if not 20. In the extremely rare case of a 60-70 Blizzard-minute game, I think we can live with a round of commercials being played at the right time. why deal with commercials IN THE MIDDLE OF A GAME when you can watch the whole game with NO COMMERCIALS online?? What does having SC on TV get you? NOTHING EXCEPT LESS ENJOYMENT. Now if ESPN promised to do it exactly like Korean TV, then it'd be worth talking about. But I don't see that happening. Because commercials in the middle of the game will be EXTREMELY RARE, and vast majority of games will fit into the schedule nicely. So there's really nothing to "deal with", you're making it sound like every game is 2 hours long or something. If you're gonna freak out because one game in a hundred or w/e gets interrupted... well I'll only say there are always people complaining about online streams as well, but we live with it.
There's a pause button for a reason.
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If you are somehow against this you are either not a fan, a hipster (fail) or pretty dumb :p
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Keep in mind it all depends how well ESPN and MLG handle it. I have a lot of faith in MLG but even this is large for them.
WSVG crashed and burned on CBS (major network) with WoW and CS at their peaks, and a bunch of silly games because they didn't handle it well.
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On October 01 2011 08:14 fant0m wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:12 Talin wrote:On October 01 2011 08:09 blabber wrote:On October 01 2011 08:08 Talin wrote:On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks. Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait... Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads. sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea. What hour-long TvTs? One hour long games (real time) are extremely rare, actually the longest I remember was 58 minutes Jinro vs Ensnare off the top of my head, and those are Blizzard minutes. Even the Goody games I've seen haven't been longer than that, despite the urban myth. I'm pretty sure that the average SC2 game is well under 30 "real" minutes, if not 20. In the extremely rare case of a 60-70 Blizzard-minute game, I think we can live with a round of commercials being played at the right time. why deal with commercials IN THE MIDDLE OF A GAME when you can watch the whole game with NO COMMERCIALS online?? What does having SC on TV get you? NOTHING EXCEPT LESS ENJOYMENT. Now if ESPN promised to do it exactly like Korean TV, then it'd be worth talking about. But I don't see that happening. Because commercials in the middle of the game will be EXTREMELY RARE, and vast majority of games will fit into the schedule nicely. So there's really nothing to "deal with", you're making it sound like every game is 2 hours long or something. If you're gonna freak out because one game in a hundred or w/e gets interrupted... well I'll only say there are always people complaining about online streams as well, but we live with it. There's a pause button for a reason.
you're joking right? You're asking the players to pause the game for like 5 minutes in the middle of a game? No player will want that.
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why the heck do you care about how much sponsorships people you don't know have and how much they get paid?
More money being pumped into the game means more Starcraft, and better Starcraft, as players compete harder for higher stakes.
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On October 01 2011 08:12 McFeser wrote:
I can't believe some people are arguing against this. It's not like it's not going to help.
I can't believe why someone cares if this would be US/CAN thing only. That is if you live outside of course.
It would be sick, but i would also be extremely disappointed and mad.
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yea of course i would that would be sick awesome. Maybe i could convince my roommates to watch as well if its on ESP-fucking-N
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