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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
September 30 2011 22:58 GMT
#181
On October 01 2011 07:55 Pinski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice. Sorry but this is a bad idea.


ESPN goes nearly ad-less for 45-50 minutes for Football/Soccer.

Also, you can easily put ads in a SC2 stream, just like they do for Football/Soccer.



If they need more ad time just run some PvPs/ZvZs and then gear up for the 45 minute TvTs The other matchups don't last that incredibly long most of the time. It would work I just don't think 90% of non starcraft players will understand the game without dumbing down the casting.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 22:59:36
September 30 2011 22:58 GMT
#182
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

I don't see SC games being shown live. Football is the world's biggest spectator sport, there would be riots if they stopped a game for commercials. Starcraft... They'ed likely prerecord it and cut it with commercials. There's no way they'ed show an hour long starcraft game without commercials. Maybe what I said was hyperbole, but it's likely not too far from the truth.

If they didn't cut for commercials, then I'd happily watch it however.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 30 2011 22:58 GMT
#183
On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea.

I agree with the concerns about time constraints and advertising, but what would be wrong with a SC2 Sportscenter type show? I think that'd be pretty fantastic, and is probably the most viable. Maybe a recap of a past event.

I doubt they could do a current event, and split the online viewers up.
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MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
September 30 2011 22:59 GMT
#184
I would also like to mention that there are a lot of people tweeting sundance saying "no i dont have a tv"

Keep that to yourself. You are hurting esports by saying that, even if its true. Don't tweet sundance saying no, because even if you wouldnt watch it because you don't have a tv, its still huge for esports either way.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
September 30 2011 22:59 GMT
#185
I will subcribe to ESPN if SC2 is on it.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 30 2011 23:00 GMT
#186
On October 01 2011 07:58 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 07:55 Pinski wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice. Sorry but this is a bad idea.


ESPN goes nearly ad-less for 45-50 minutes for Football/Soccer.

Also, you can easily put ads in a SC2 stream, just like they do for Football/Soccer.



If they need more ad time just run some PvPs/ZvZs and then gear up for the 45 minute TvTs The other matchups don't last that incredibly long most of the time. It would work I just don't think 90% of non starcraft players will understand the game without dumbing down the casting.

right, that's another problem. The broadcast will have to cater to the casual viewer more than any sc2 broadcast before it. Meaning it won't be as enjoyable for most of TL.
blabberrrrr
Paraclete
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States100 Posts
September 30 2011 23:00 GMT
#187
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this day, a new sport, conceived in a programming language, and dedicated to the proposition that all sports are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that sport, or any sport so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here devoted their lives that that sport might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, playing and spectating, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the players, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored spectators we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these players shall not have played in vain -- that this sport, under Blizzard, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.



(tried to make it make sense.... FOR E-SPORTS!!!)
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
September 30 2011 23:00 GMT
#188
This would make BarCraft so much easier, not to mention being awesome in general.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 30 2011 23:00 GMT
#189
Facebook group!

Time to make this huge! Everyone join and tell your friends to! Let's harness the social media of today for the power of Starcraft!
lachy89
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia264 Posts
September 30 2011 23:02 GMT
#190
MLG on ESPN would be amazing... I wish I still had the channel but it would still be awesome nonetheless.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 23:03:38
September 30 2011 23:02 GMT
#191
But really, WHAT IS WRONG WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT NOW? Why is there this notion that Esports has to be shown on television? Any SC2 broadcast on (American) television will probably be worse than anything you can watch online
blabberrrrr
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
September 30 2011 23:03 GMT
#192
for the people who voted NO.

wtf you on this forum lmao.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
September 30 2011 23:04 GMT
#193
who voted no?- ur crazy :|

would be so siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
September 30 2011 23:04 GMT
#194
On October 01 2011 08:02 blabber wrote:
But really, WHAT IS WRONG WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT NOW? Why is there this notion that Esports has to be shown on television? Any SC2 broadcast on (American) television will probably be worse than anything you can watch online

What I don't get about this line of argument is why we can't have the ability to watch SC2 online and on television.

Its not like we have to choose one or the other or give up entirely on the internet for television.
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
September 30 2011 23:05 GMT
#195
It takes a special kind of brain-dead to vote "No".
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
September 30 2011 23:06 GMT
#196
I think the main problem with SC2 on TV is that it really needs to be edit and not Live, but we like it Live not Edited. But I could see an edited version airing during the night on ESPN2, hehe.
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
September 30 2011 23:06 GMT
#197
On October 01 2011 07:58 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea.

I agree with the concerns about time constraints and advertising, but what would be wrong with a SC2 Sportscenter type show? I think that'd be pretty fantastic, and is probably the most viable. Maybe a recap of a past event.

I doubt they could do a current event, and split the online viewers up.


State of the Game on ESPN???
blah blah blah...
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
September 30 2011 23:07 GMT
#198
HOLY YESS!!!! this makes me twitch with so much excitement!!
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 30 2011 23:08 GMT
#199
On October 01 2011 08:04 Sandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 08:02 blabber wrote:
But really, WHAT IS WRONG WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT NOW? Why is there this notion that Esports has to be shown on television? Any SC2 broadcast on (American) television will probably be worse than anything you can watch online

What I don't get about this line of argument is why we can't have the ability to watch SC2 online and on television.

Its not like we have to choose one or the other or give up entirely on the internet for television.

because SC on American television would be less enjoyable for us hardcore viewers than on online
blabberrrrr
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 23:09:44
September 30 2011 23:08 GMT
#200
On October 01 2011 07:54 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 07:51 Larias wrote:
On October 01 2011 07:50 GP wrote:
Starcraft with five minute commercials every ten minutes? No thanks.

Just like how soccer is interrupted by commercials....wait...

Be reasonable, obviously they wouldn't interrupt a match for ads.

sorry but I don't see ESPN going ad-less for those hour-long TvT matches. SC does not work on American TV. The only way they can get it on is if it's some highlight show which doesn't do SC enough justice (and what's wrong with just watching the games online?). Sorry but this is a bad idea.


What hour-long TvTs? One hour long games (real time) are extremely rare, actually the longest I remember was 58 minutes Jinro vs Ensnare off the top of my head, and those are Blizzard minutes. Even the Goody games I've seen haven't been longer than that, despite the urban myth.

I'm pretty sure that the average SC2 game is well under 30 "real" minutes, if not 20. In the extremely rare case of a 60-70 Blizzard-minute game, I think we can live with a round of commercials interrupting the game at a right time.
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