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Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 18:56:00
September 28 2011 18:55 GMT
#141
I pretty much got it BECAUSE of it ;P Im a terran myself so from the learning point of view Im mostly only intrested in TvX and Im happy almost every match is one.
Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS
drgoats
Profile Joined March 2010
United States310 Posts
September 28 2011 18:56 GMT
#142
I am not a fan of too much TvT. However, Coda A had a good amount of foreigners worth watching and a much better race distribution. I believe I got my money's worth from Code A alone.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
September 28 2011 18:58 GMT
#143
I've bought it to support the last remaining Code S Protosses losing and Sage/JYP/Hero replacing them.

Any TvT is better than Genius or HongUn cheesing/slowly dying to macro players.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
September 28 2011 18:59 GMT
#144
There's was actually a ton of amazing non-tvt games so idk. Their loss I guess.
Try another route paperboy.
Smurphy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States374 Posts
September 28 2011 19:00 GMT
#145
I enjoy TvT and have bought the last 3 or 4 seasons plus the Team League. I did not buy this season of the GSL. I was mostly interested in the first two rounds of Code A which came on at a time I could watch live. I also am interested in the semis and finals of Code S and I usually wake up early to watch those lives. I might not have to with Blizzcon.

The rest of the games seemed like too much TvT and TvX. I didn't want to watch them so I didn't buy the season.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
September 28 2011 19:03 GMT
#146
I purchase mainly because I find the casting archon to be so entertaining even during matches Im otherwise not interested in. I rarely watch all the matches up until the final 4 however that is more due to time constraints. Racial matchups dont really effect my decision one way or another.
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Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
September 28 2011 19:04 GMT
#147
I didn't buy it because Nestea and MVP are too good, and IM wins every title almost. Not enough distribution. Even if they don't, then Losira or Happy might win. I wish GOM would do something about IM winning too much GSLs. I won't buy a ticket until they do.
kiy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 23:22:30
September 28 2011 19:04 GMT
#148
On September 29 2011 01:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
For a second, I thought you meant racial diversity meaning Koreans and other ethnic groups.
To be honest, there are an abundant amount of Terrans, but how can GSL fix that?


GOM can't fix this. But it serves as a warning for Blizzard about racial inbalance.

Whenever the major tournament from the Mecca of Starcraft 2 has a racial ratio of 4:1:1, the game loses credibility as a competitive balanced game. Even though the game is still very young and there's tons of stuff to figure out, the last few seasons in GSL have shown a steady increase of Terrans.
This might force Blizzard to make some changes even if they consider the game to be technically balanced... And I don't mean "increasing the Barracks build time by 5s" type of changes.

One can argue that Terrans are only dominating in Korea and this "problem" doesn't happen in the foreign scene. But the true of the matter is, Korea represents the vanguard of Starcraft 2 metagame and skill "cap". Foreigns are trying to catch up with Korea, which might lead eventually to the same scenario.

I've had the chance to visit Korea for 3 weeks and whenever I talked to some people about SC2, most of the people have the impression it's a pretty imbalanced game. Sure they are comparing it to BW which is 12 years older than SC2, but still the problem stands.

Blizzard can't hold themselves on the fact that NesTea has won 3 GSLs already. Bonjwas happen.
Wisemen speak when they have something to say. Others speak when they have to say something.
omisa
Profile Joined January 2011
United States494 Posts
September 28 2011 19:05 GMT
#149
I find it sad that because of one season of terran dominance, people are actually boycotting the GSL. While i do agree that excessive amounts of TvT can really wear on you, the quality of the games this season have really been above any prior season. I feel as though the people who are not buying a season pass are also the same people who are all for supporting eSports, when its convenient.

At least its TvT, could you imagine if every night of GSL was PvP?
\m/
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
September 28 2011 19:14 GMT
#150
I know it sucks watching TvT all day, but at the same time, we are seeing some of the most top-level SC2 to date with these TvTs and it is actually quite interesting.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 28 2011 19:15 GMT
#151
I buy every season regardless of racial diversity or players because it's the highest level of play anywhere in the world.

But I am definitely watching fewer matches than usual because I can't stand so many TvTs...
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
September 28 2011 19:17 GMT
#152
If you guys think it sucks watching TvT all day...imagine playing TvT all day...
blah blah blah...
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
September 28 2011 19:22 GMT
#153
On September 29 2011 01:40 Radook wrote:
Would buy any GSL when they start accepting credticard over just PayPal.

They already do this, i know that it goes to paypal but you can pay with a credit card through paypal without having an account or signing in. When yoou go to pay for it you just select "id like to continue without signing in" or something like that. Its the same as paying with a credit card on any site, you dont need a paypal account or anything.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
September 28 2011 19:22 GMT
#154
I didn't buy, but I will regret it if Killer wins GSL Code S. But hey guys, what are the chances? ^_^
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Joseph123
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria1144 Posts
September 28 2011 19:24 GMT
#155
I'm not even watching it for free when I'm able to. Code A is another story thought.
Nagano
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1157 Posts
September 28 2011 19:28 GMT
#156
I will always buy the GSL, MLG, NASL(lol sike).

For me, spectating SC2 is like a marriage: I love SC2 and will always support the growth of esports, during the good and bad times, for better or for worse. Til Flash do us part.
“The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.”
Sueco
Profile Joined September 2009
Sweden283 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 19:36:53
September 28 2011 19:33 GMT
#157
On September 29 2011 04:04 kiy0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 01:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
For a second, I thought you meant racial diversity meaning Koreans and other ethnic groups.
To be honest, there are an abundant amount of Terrans, but how can GSL fix that?


GOM can't fix this. It serves as a warning for Blizzard about racial inbalance.

Whenever the major tournament from the Mecca of Starcraft 2 has a racial ratio of 4:1:1, the game loses credibility as a competitive balanced game. Even though the game is still very young and there's tons of stuff to figure out, the last few seasons in GSL have shown a steady increase of Terrans.
This might force Blizzard to make some changes even if they consider the game to be technically balanced... And I don't mean "increasing the Barracks build time by 5s" type of changes.

One can argue that Terrans are only dominating in Korea and this "problem" doesn't happen in the foreign scene. But the true of the matter is, Korea represents the vanguard of Starcraft 2 metagame and skill "cap". Foreigns are trying to catch up with Korea, which might lead eventually to the same scenario.

I've had the chance to visit Korea for 3 weeks and whenever I talked to some people about SC2, most of the people have the impression it's a pretty imbalanced game. Sure they are comparing it to BW which is 12 years older than SC2, but still the problem stands.

Blizzard can't hold themselves on the fact that NesTea has won 3 GSLs already. Bonjwas happen.


This is the single most intelligent post I've heard about this subject ever.
The balance evangelists will be hunting you down bro.
Klaus1986
Profile Joined April 2011
United States113 Posts
September 28 2011 19:33 GMT
#158
It's not about imbalance necessarily. It's just that Terran is more exciting, fun, diverse and strategically fulfilling.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
September 28 2011 19:34 GMT
#159
I'll buy the Blizzcon pass so I can see the finals anyways, don't care to watch a million TvTs in between.
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Hamdemon
Profile Joined September 2011
United States348 Posts
September 28 2011 20:15 GMT
#160
Personally I don't pay for anything either way (bombard me with ads for money, I really don't care) because I'm a poor college student. But I also haven't even watched most of GSL so far. Code S has been struggling to capture my interest after the first couple rounds because I tend not to like the players who make it to the finals, but I do try to catch Code A, but again, the problem is that the players I like seem to lose this time too. None of this is GOM's fault, it's just what it is.

TvT is pretty boring mostly because there's so little unit diversity in most matches and so much of it is based upon positioning. I think TvT would be a lot more interesting, and terran strategy in general would be if siege mode wasn't in the game, but I understand that's one of the main parts of terran play. "HAH I caught you unseiged you lose!" is just not compelling gameplay to me.
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