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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 28 2011 17:26 GMT
#61
Came in here thinking that this was about Koreans and foreigners. >_< So glad it wasn't.
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dLKnighT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada735 Posts
September 28 2011 17:26 GMT
#62
As a Protoss player, unless at least one of the player's are well known, then I don't care much for matches without Protoss.
unoriginalname
Profile Joined November 2010
England380 Posts
September 28 2011 17:28 GMT
#63
As long as NesTea, MVP and LosirA continue to play StarCraft 2 at their level, I'll keep buying a ticket. I mean NesTea has already provided that season defining game in his match against NaDa.
Hmmm
Stipulation
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States587 Posts
September 28 2011 17:29 GMT
#64
Bought for code A.
jonathan1
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
September 28 2011 17:29 GMT
#65
ive bought every season up to this point and didn't buy because of TvT. i also didn't buy the arena of legends.
BigLighthouse
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom424 Posts
September 28 2011 17:29 GMT
#66
On September 29 2011 02:24 Horse...falcon wrote:
I didn't buy because I still haven't watched any of the games I bought from last season and 80% of the games from the season before that.

There's just too many tournaments and not enough buildup for each one. If instead of every month, what if they had a GSL every 3-4 months? It would allow us time to build up story and hype. Up the prizes, drag it out, make all series a best of 5 or more, play a round 32 man round robin season or something. Some of us don't have the time to follow all of it anymore.


I kind of see your point too. It would solve the issue of players dodging other events too. But it would even further slow the turn around of players in code s/a/b which is a little rough on those good players who are still fighting their way up
merlin101
Profile Joined July 2010
Switzerland194 Posts
September 28 2011 17:30 GMT
#67
I bought it because of the racial uniformity! I need to see Nestea beating up some Terrans!!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 28 2011 17:30 GMT
#68
Haven't bought GSL ticket for a while. It's been getting a bit disappointing bar the occasional really good game.

GSL affirmative action plz
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 28 2011 17:31 GMT
#69
On September 29 2011 02:28 unoriginalname wrote:
As long as NesTea, MVP and LosirA continue to play StarCraft 2 at their level, I'll keep buying a ticket. I mean NesTea has already provided that season defining game in his match against NaDa.

Yeah, If I was a Zerg player I would feel the same way but as Protoss there just isn't enough incentive. If Sage makes S I will get it next season though. I know the A matches are good but without Tastosis it isn't worth the $ for me.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
September 28 2011 17:31 GMT
#70
I only got it for code A, if there were as few toss in code A as in code S then I wouldn't bother.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
September 28 2011 17:32 GMT
#71
I bought a ticket, but I understand why others didn't. However, I'm posting to ask a question about the OP. What exactly are the "drastic measures" you would prescribe? GSL can't just kick out half of their Code S players because they play Terran.
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 17:33:37
September 28 2011 17:33 GMT
#72
This poll would really have needed a "I wouldn't buy a ticket either way" option, I highly doubt they have lost 50% in ticket sales ^^
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
September 28 2011 17:33 GMT
#73
On September 29 2011 02:29 BigLighthouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 02:24 Horse...falcon wrote:
I didn't buy because I still haven't watched any of the games I bought from last season and 80% of the games from the season before that.

There's just too many tournaments and not enough buildup for each one. If instead of every month, what if they had a GSL every 3-4 months? It would allow us time to build up story and hype. Up the prizes, drag it out, make all series a best of 5 or more, play a round 32 man round robin season or something. Some of us don't have the time to follow all of it anymore.


I kind of see your point too. It would solve the issue of players dodging other events too. But it would even further slow the turn around of players in code s/a/b which is a little rough on those good players who are still fighting their way up

I think it would be worse honestly, GSL is the ONLY tournament in korea, and to drag it out even further means most koreans have little opportunity to play elsewhere in korea and we would have less korean matches to watch. I still don't know why people think its a good idea to copy over every structure from Brood War in Starcraft 2.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 28 2011 17:33 GMT
#74
On September 29 2011 02:23 MrCon wrote:
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On September 29 2011 02:16 infinity2k9 wrote:
I wouldn't buy a pass anyway but i would love to support the eSports i watch, unfortunately not an option. Anyway getting onto my point, it annoys me a lot that it's mainly a Korean product, with things like k-pop groups that must cost a lot of money. And there's big sponsors like Pepsi and LG right too so money shouldn't be an issue (Blizzard in too i assume?) I don't feel like the foreigner money is going in the interests of eSports. Like where's the Korean revenue stream to pay for stuff like k-pop groups which is entirely their interest?

Plus GOM player gets massive exposure too, and it even uses your bandwidth to peer2peer to other watchers so their bandwidth cost is less. So the product to the national fans is only including mainly Tasteless/Artosis wages as any extra i guess. I feel like it's just kinda lame when we are used to free streams and that business model worked fine, not to mention this is heavily involved by Blizzard and basically one constant publicity drive for their product in the first place. If the money just paid for the casters that would be cool but who knows really, just pisses me off to see money going for useless crap instead of the people that need it, the players!!

I really want a way to get money to teams basically, maybe buy stuff like shirts or whatever. I feel thats supporting in the correct way. I understand paying for HD VODs i guess but less than that? Everyone involved (Blizz, Sponsors and Gretech) is benefiting enough easily to be a bit more generous and possibly help long term growth at the same time.

Sorry bit ranting there. But i just feel like it's not actually helping who i think needs help in this scene?

They're basically giving a salary to the players, even those who lose the first round. They're giving nearly 2M$ (yeah, 2 millions dollars) a year to players....I don't understand why you say what you say.


Well i would assume that money is already put up by sponsors/Blizzard/Gretech themselves. I really don't like the idea of prize money being salary anyway, thats just not a salary. One bad month and you can't afford to live? It's just not transparent and i'd personally feel more comfortable supporting teams directly.
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 28 2011 17:34 GMT
#75
On September 29 2011 02:25 infinity2k9 wrote:
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On September 29 2011 02:21 bucckevin wrote:
So you didn't buy because you want to hurt GOM's pocket for having too many TvT when GOM can't really do anything about it. Is it GOM's fault that the top players chose Terran as their race? They've already modified maps to not have close positions, put depots at the bottom of ramps, removed/added new maps. What else do you want them to do, just randomly boot the terran players from code S and add more Z and P?

I can understand if you're just too cheap to pay or just don't want to watch too many TvT but don't try to blame GOM for it. That's what I see you trying to do.


Uhhhh this assumes he MUST buy GOM in the first place? How the hell do you manage to come up with this attitude. They sell a product, if you don't think it's entertaining then don't buy it. TvT isn't their fault but it is less entertaining when it's prevalent, so sorry but that means people won't buy the product.



I think you're a little confused. I never said people MUST buy GOM. I said you don't have to buy if you don't have the money or you don't enjoy it because there are too many terrans. I said you shouldn't be demanding for GOM to do something about the terrans or else you won't buy GOM tickets. GOM has done enough things within their control to make it balanced.
Onox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1072 Posts
September 28 2011 17:35 GMT
#76
On September 29 2011 02:26 Sandro wrote:
Anyone else think GOM should take additional steps to alleviate this problem? Just for example setting up brackets with terran knocking other terran out or against zerg who are specifically good against terran, there is also maps they could change, to make them more unfavorable to terran.

No that's an awful idea, how did you come up with this? Fixing groups/matchups/maps to favor non-terran players just to flush them out. It just needs time and less terrans will be in code S. Also as I said previously it's just that there's so many good terran players and so few very good protoss/zerg.
horsepire
Profile Joined April 2011
147 Posts
September 28 2011 17:35 GMT
#77
On September 29 2011 02:26 Sandro wrote:
Anyone else think GOM should take additional steps to alleviate this problem? Just for example setting up brackets with terran knocking other terran out or against zerg who are specifically good against terran, there is also maps they could change, to make them more unfavorable to terran.


Yeah, let's rig the brackets, that seems fair.

The GSL map pool is already probably more balanced than most if not all, since they use their own maps. There's a reason why MLG, NASL, etc., and even Blizzard (Tal Darim) have adopted the GSL maps.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 17:38:15
September 28 2011 17:35 GMT
#78
Code A has a lot of great players, so the $10 is well worth it for that alone.

Plus, even as a Protoss player, I still enjoy TvZ


What I don't like about code S, though, is the inflexibility in new players getting there. The code A tosses are much better than Hong Un or Genius and it seems like there are always some mediocre players who hold on to there code S spot.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 28 2011 17:37 GMT
#79
Well saying things like 'you want to hurt GOM's pockets' and then absolving blame from GOM that it's all TvT. feels like you are implying he should buy a ticket anyway. You can't say he's trying to blame GOM i didn't see anything like that, he says 'best league ever' so i don't think it's a negative thing about them.
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
September 28 2011 17:39 GMT
#80
GSL is GSL. I watch games that are good, the best players bring the best games, regardless of matchup. Also, CODE A non mirrors have been beast.
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