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On September 29 2011 16:07 Tofugrinder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 15:57 doko100 wrote:
I still don't understand why the last place in group play doesn't just get demoted to Code A and the 3rd place goes to the up and down, that way there will be alot more code a players getting into code s and more code s players dropping out of code s.
because you only need to loose 2 bo1s and you are 4th place. gsl spoiler from yesterday: + Show Spoiler +oGsTOP is clearly one of the best players in the GSL but he had a bad day yesterday. so it would be really unfair for players like him to immediately get demoted. the only way it would be some kind of fair it they removed the current group system and made all matches bo3
No offence, but what you just said was really stupid.
I hope you realize that losing a Bo3 is essentially the same thing as losing two Bo1.
You lose 2 games either way, a Bo1 is even more forgiving because if you win just 1 game, you are sure to not place last, if you however win 1 game in a Bo3 and lose the other 2, you would still go down. So what you essentially just said was :" well losing two bo1 is unfair, so how about we just make 1 bo3... it's the same amount of losses and you can even go down with a win... but hey that sounds fair."
think before you post please, again no offence but it's not fun to have an argument when someone comes up with an idea that makes things even worse/more unfair and calls someone else out for having an "unfair idea"
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could be 32 terrans and i'd still buy it, its not goms fault - its blizzards.
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On September 29 2011 20:01 doko100 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 16:07 Tofugrinder wrote:On September 29 2011 15:57 doko100 wrote:
I still don't understand why the last place in group play doesn't just get demoted to Code A and the 3rd place goes to the up and down, that way there will be alot more code a players getting into code s and more code s players dropping out of code s.
because you only need to loose 2 bo1s and you are 4th place. gsl spoiler from yesterday: + Show Spoiler +oGsTOP is clearly one of the best players in the GSL but he had a bad day yesterday. so it would be really unfair for players like him to immediately get demoted. the only way it would be some kind of fair it they removed the current group system and made all matches bo3 No offence, but what you just said was really stupid. I hope you realize that losing a Bo3 is essentially the same thing as losing two Bo1. You lose 2 games either way, a Bo1 is even more forgiving because if you win just 1 game, you are sure to not place last, if you however win 1 game in a Bo3 and lose the other 2, you would still go down. So what you essentially just said was :" well losing two bo1 is unfair, so how about we just make 1 bo3... it's the same amount of losses and you can even go down with a win... but hey that sounds fair." think before you post please, again no offence but it's not fun to have an argument when someone comes up with an idea that makes things even worse/more unfair and calls someone else out for having an "unfair idea"
Isn't 2 BO1 becomes 2 BO3?
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Looks to me like the strongest line up for the ro16 yet, despite the lack of protoss.
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On September 29 2011 20:01 doko100 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 16:07 Tofugrinder wrote:On September 29 2011 15:57 doko100 wrote:
I still don't understand why the last place in group play doesn't just get demoted to Code A and the 3rd place goes to the up and down, that way there will be alot more code a players getting into code s and more code s players dropping out of code s.
because you only need to loose 2 bo1s and you are 4th place. gsl spoiler from yesterday: + Show Spoiler +oGsTOP is clearly one of the best players in the GSL but he had a bad day yesterday. so it would be really unfair for players like him to immediately get demoted. the only way it would be some kind of fair it they removed the current group system and made all matches bo3 No offence, but what you just said was really stupid. I hope you realize that losing a Bo3 is essentially the same thing as losing two Bo1. You lose 2 games either way, a Bo1 is even more forgiving because if you win just 1 game, you are sure to not place last, if you however win 1 game in a Bo3 and lose the other 2, you would still go down. So what you essentially just said was :" well losing two bo1 is unfair, so how about we just make 1 bo3... it's the same amount of losses and you can even go down with a win... but hey that sounds fair." think before you post please, again no offence but it's not fun to have an argument when someone comes up with an idea that makes things even worse/more unfair and calls someone else out for having an "unfair idea"
Wow, you couldn't be more wrong lol
Preparing for 1 opponent <> preparing for 3, of which you might not even play all of them
Preparing for 3 specific maps <> preparing for 1 map and potentially 2 more you're unsure of
A best of 3 <> group stages, by any stretch of the imagination
The idea of demotion without up/down is also ridiculous for such a volatile game. Oh look, I paired up against Nestea and Mvp in a group, I'm going to code A because I can't beat the two best players in the world? Also just because players got far in code A, doesn't mean they're good enough for code S so giving them that spot without making them play against code S players to earn it would be stupid as well.
Also just because you say "no offence" doesn't mean your post isn't trying to offend the other person lol
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I wanted to look closer on DRG's zvt, so this GSL was perfect for that. 
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On September 29 2011 20:13 ffadicted wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 20:01 doko100 wrote:On September 29 2011 16:07 Tofugrinder wrote:On September 29 2011 15:57 doko100 wrote:
I still don't understand why the last place in group play doesn't just get demoted to Code A and the 3rd place goes to the up and down, that way there will be alot more code a players getting into code s and more code s players dropping out of code s.
because you only need to loose 2 bo1s and you are 4th place. gsl spoiler from yesterday: + Show Spoiler +oGsTOP is clearly one of the best players in the GSL but he had a bad day yesterday. so it would be really unfair for players like him to immediately get demoted. the only way it would be some kind of fair it they removed the current group system and made all matches bo3 No offence, but what you just said was really stupid. I hope you realize that losing a Bo3 is essentially the same thing as losing two Bo1. You lose 2 games either way, a Bo1 is even more forgiving because if you win just 1 game, you are sure to not place last, if you however win 1 game in a Bo3 and lose the other 2, you would still go down. So what you essentially just said was :" well losing two bo1 is unfair, so how about we just make 1 bo3... it's the same amount of losses and you can even go down with a win... but hey that sounds fair." think before you post please, again no offence but it's not fun to have an argument when someone comes up with an idea that makes things even worse/more unfair and calls someone else out for having an "unfair idea" Wow, you couldn't be more wrong lol Preparing for 1 opponent <> preparing for 3, of which you might not even play all of them Preparing for 3 specific maps <> preparing for 1 map and potentially 2 more you're unsure of A best of 3 <> group stages, by any stretch of the imagination The idea of demotion without up/down is also ridiculous for such a volatile game. Oh look, I paired up against Nestea and Mvp in a group, I'm going to code A because I can't beat the two best players in the world? Also just because players got far in code A, doesn't mean they're good enough for code S so giving them that spot without making them play against code S players to earn it would be stupid as well. Also just because you say "no offence" doesn't mean your post isn't trying to offend the other person lol
Your argument is very, very flawed.
What you basically just said was "no demotion without up/down matches, because you might get matched up with nestea and mvp in one group", completely ignoring the fact that in a bo3 format you could be even more unlucky, you could get matched up with nestea or mvp, in that format you don't even have the chance to play against another player that might have less skill than your bo3 opponent.
Yes in a group format there is a slight chance that you get into a group of death, with players like bomber, drg, nestea etc... but in a bo3 format it's even worse, because in a bo3 format it could very well happen that Mvp and Nestea get matched up first round and THAT is alot worse because that ultimately means that one of them can't advance, whereas in a group format both top player have the chance to advance to the ro16.
again, think before you post.
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I think what the best of 3 would help to do more is to insure that genuinely great players like Nestea or Losira or MC aren't just cheesed out of the tournament.
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On September 29 2011 20:41 BinxyBrown wrote:
I think what the best of 3 would help to do more is to insure that genuinely great players like Nestea or Losira or MC aren't just cheesed out of the tournament.
It absolutely wouldn't, who's to say that they won't get matched with a cheeser? And the chances of two top players eliminating eachother first round would actually drastically increase in a Bo3 format.
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Nope, great games no matter the lineup, plus the RO16 is only 3/8 TvT, plenty of TvZ and it's filled with plenty of great players on both ends of the bracket.
GSL final curse is going to be broken this time i can feel it.
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I am disappointed with the racial diversity but this is actually the first GSL in a while I have bothered to watch and I am enjoying it. I might start buying season passes for the vods soon if my interest remains strong
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Well if you want racial diversity watch the GTSL instead. Plenty of high-level XvX action on that.
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I watch it live or not at all, so never pay.
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What about group stages with Bo3s. Compromise
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There's tons of VODs for 10$ .. what's that ? 2-3 beers ? We ( at least I ) spend a lot more on stupid stuff without ever analyzing it .. and for that you get tens of hours of high class SC2 actions. I liked the Code A and most of Code S .. truth be told I've skipped some minutes from the lower class TvTs, but pleased overall . I'm only a bit disapointed Nestea and MVP will meet so early on , other than that, it's sure worth the money.
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I like Terran and TvT is the most developed mirror matchup - it's the dot on the i for why I bought a GSL October ticket. ZvZ is finally getting there, with awesome games like LosirA vs DongRaeGu showing us how intense (as opposed to volatile) the matchup can be... PvP still is underdeveloped due to the constant state of 4Gate vs 4Gate, so I don't really mind seeing a lot of TvTs.
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On September 29 2011 21:58 twiitar wrote:
with awesome games like LosirA vs DongRaeGu showing us how intense (as opposed to volatile) the matchup can be...
I hope that will be awsome, not like Losira vs July which was .. kind of nooby 
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On September 29 2011 06:28 OldManZerg wrote:
It's the reason I didn't buy it. I play zerg and the biggest reason I watch GSL is to see what the best zergs are doing. There are a few still, but I'm just not going to pay that much money for so few games in which Code S zergs are playing. If zerg were to make it to the finals I might buy it afterwards so I could go back and watch all the games, but it didn't make any sense to buy it ahead of time when they could all get knocked out early.
top zergs in the world are going to be for sure playing against terran and you don't want to see what new strategy they have devised to win this season........
in general to the thread seems like people just want to try and cry terran op lol TvT is awesome , most fun match up to watch in mirror imo. can't afford a ticket though but I love sc2 and if I could buy gom tv tickets I would buy them there not just code s there is code a as well. Plus if you love starcraft 2 why would you care about more tvt than any other match up in one of the gsl code s seasons makes no sense.
Alot of people just want to cry in thread really. not true sc2 fans or esports fans. It's like saying your not going to watch nba finals if lakers are in it for the 100th time and your team not make it. but you want to call yourself a true nba fan.
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Round of 16 of this GSL season: 11 Terrans, 4 Zergs, 1 Protoss.
'Nough said.
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On September 29 2011 22:30 kiy0 wrote:
Round of 16 of this GSL season: 11 Terrans, 4 Zergs, 1 Protoss.
'Nough said.
Actually n'ting said. What's your point again ?
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EPT
