Its not Stepmania imo. You're just getting faster at SC2. You're playing the game, so you're improving. My APM was terrible when I started playing, but now it's doubled. Admittedly It hasn't helped completely, but just knowing what you are doing helps more, since it becomes second nature, thus you get to focus on other things

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 22 2011 09:15 GMT

#22

On September 22 2011 18:13 Hassybaby wrote:
Its not Stepmania imo. You're just getting faster at SC2. You're playing the game, so you're improving. My APM was terrible when I started playing, but now it's doubled. Admittedly It hasn't helped completely, but just knowing what you are doing helps more, since it becomes second nature, thus you get to focus on other things

Lol, for the 6 months I've played StarCraft 2, I never improved till last month.

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

September 22 2011 09:18 GMT

#23

No link for download? I want to try it and increase my low APM because of the new spam change

AnxiousHippo

Australia1451 Posts

September 22 2011 09:20 GMT

#24

On September 22 2011 18:18 MooMooMugi wrote:
No link for download? I want to try it and increase my low APM because of the new spam change

Download link Lol at first I typed "spamania" into google.

TOloseGT

United States1145 Posts

September 22 2011 09:20 GMT

#25

Did Stepmania raise your APM, or did you just get used to your playstyle within that month?

It's hard to figure out which one actually helped your APM, maybe both did, but APM by itself is meaningless, especially in SC2. Playing these games will definitely help with your reaction speed, but that wouldn't help you split marines against blings.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 22 2011 09:21 GMT

#26

http://www.stepmania.com/

I reccommend downloading versions 4.0 and below. 5.0 is highly unstable and laggy.

Also, search for tutorials in youtube for songs to download to play. Yeah, you can basically play any song you like on Stepmania =P

Evolpeac

United States34 Posts

September 22 2011 09:22 GMT

#27

if you want to increase your multitasking (far more important than APM) there is a multitask trainer on NA server. EXCELLENT for anyone looking to improve their ability to micromanage producing units scouting and completing a goal. My game play has greatly improved since using it. The name is Multitasking Trainer v0.94 - BR published by Kralisek

EDIT: Not sure if its up on EU or SEA servers unfortunately

flx!

United States101 Posts

September 22 2011 09:24 GMT

#28

I don't think Stepmania would ever help your APM. In RTSs, APM is about knowing what to do, so it's more of a brain and muscle memory thing than actual finger speed. I mean in Stepmania I can easily do 230 bpm 16th stream, so that like 18 arrows per second and I guess something ridiculous like 1000+ APM and that hasn't helped my starcraft at all :-).

VENDIZ

1575 Posts

September 22 2011 09:31 GMT

#29

Can't see it improving your -> useful <- APM. As mentioned on the first page; yes you will probably get faster fingers, but it won't help you all that much pressing arrow keys in SC2. The best way to improve your APM in StarCraft would probably be through mass-gaming... becoming 110% comfortable with where the hotkeys are and when to use them. I guess the better you become at the game the more you understand the point of always getting reknewed knowledge, which in turn leads you to move around with your units more often, and again raises your APM.

atmuh

United States246 Posts

September 22 2011 12:20 GMT

#30

I would play SM on and off in my spare time over the 8 years or so that I've been playing DDR and to be honest it really shouldn't help you in sc2 at all.

Gotmog

Serbia899 Posts

September 22 2011 12:25 GMT

#31

Why are people wasting time on stuff like this....
You have to be on such a high level that you can't physically do whatever you want in game...
even then, its much more likely that your multitasking and brain will be to slow, and not your fingers.

Just play the game, focusing on apm a bit more if you want.
When your apm jumped from 80-160, you probably didn't get more then 3 useful APM.

Garnet

Vietnam9013 Posts

September 22 2011 12:36 GMT

#32

Their website is terrible. Version 5.0 is buggy as hell and they removed the link to download v4.0.

ClasH

Germany143 Posts

September 22 2011 13:10 GMT

#33

WTF?

Clow

Brazil880 Posts

September 22 2011 13:14 GMT

#34

I don't think it really helps...
Just play SC2 with the idea that you want to play faster, and you'll get faster.

Ghad

Norway2551 Posts

September 22 2011 13:15 GMT

#35

On September 22 2011 21:25 Gotmog wrote:
You have to be on such a high level that you can't physically do whatever you want in game...
even then, its much more likely that your multitasking and brain will be to slow, and not your fingers.

Yeah, that was my point exactly. For the vast majority of players, low APM will mostly indicate a lack of direction or urgency, not that their fingers in themselves can't move.

If gaming time is limited, using it on other games would probably be detrimental if anything.

Ownos

United States2147 Posts

September 22 2011 13:15 GMT

#36

Uh no? If that is the case my SFIV APM is like 500 APM. Button masher FTW. Different games.

Legion710

Canada423 Posts

September 22 2011 13:19 GMT

#37

Playing Stepmania will not improve your APM. Sorry. I guess I have to disclose that I'm the best ITG (In the groove, it's like DDR but.... basically not retarded, bad or japanese) player in Canada to pull in credibilty for that statement. Even though I've stopped playing for a little while now.

But hey, play it for fun.

Funny fact: One of the top players (top 3 I would say) in the world for ITG is called Flash, and he has no idea about starcraft. He's american though.