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MajOr, the #3 foreigner in the world by ELO ranking, has joined the Korean team TSL.Not much information about this, since it was just announced on SotG.
MajOr practices in TSL house
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
MajOr, the #3 foreigner in the world by ELO ranking, has joined the Korean team TSL.Not much information about this, since it was just announced on SotG.
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SenorChang
Australia4729 Posts
Really hope he appreciates what Artosis is doing for him and stays in line this time. Wonder how it will go for TSL, hopefully majOr doesn't make it a pain for them. | ||
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MonkSEA
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On September 21 2011 13:58 SafeAsCheese wrote: ELO is so biased towards people who avoid big tourneys with koreans lol Wouldn't it not matter too much since Koreans have a high elo anyway, or is international and Korea separated? | ||
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Grettin
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Samp
Canada783 Posts
GL. | ||
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NoLimit028
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He'll become even more beast. | ||
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Arterial
Australia1039 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:59 MonkSEA wrote: Wouldn't it not matter too much since Koreans have a high elo anyway, or is international and Korea separated? According to the TLPD ranks on the right bar on TL, they're separate. | ||
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United States211 Posts
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United States236 Posts
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DustyGreen
United States8 Posts
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
He can be a good player and all, not going to take that from him, but still his attitude is simply not deserving of such privilege... | ||
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
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Morale
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BarbieHsu
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On September 21 2011 14:01 carloselcoco wrote: He does not deserve it. :/ He can be a good player and all, not going to take that from him, but still his attitude is simply not deserving of such privilege... I think that the enforced discipline, the heirarchical society and the training regimen in a Korean environment may be just what Major needs. | ||
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iyoume
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cElph
United States29 Posts
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Incanus
Canada695 Posts
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:03 BarbieHsu wrote: I think that the enforced discipline, the heirarchical society and the training regimen in a Korean environment may be just what Major needs. I hope it fixes his attitude :/ | ||
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
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CuSToM
United States1478 Posts
TSL fighting yo | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
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iYiYi
United States489 Posts
but you guys gotta give Artosis some credit! ARTOSIS IS AMAZING! | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
if he screws this up... again... then I'll be less than happy for him. | ||
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Arterial
Australia1039 Posts
grats to Major! | ||
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Deleted User 183001
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Congratulations Major . | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
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United States409 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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drew-chan
Malaysia1517 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:04 Soulish wrote: If major gets kicked out in a month, can we finally agree not to give major any more chances? He's the very definition of a keyboard warrior. However, his mechanics are definitely top notch so I'm looking forward to seeing him becoming even better at tsl And on the other hand if he succeeds in becoming a model player in the korean scene can we finally agree that people can change for the better and Major has changed his ways? | ||
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NexaS
United States202 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:00 Arterial wrote: According to the TLPD ranks on the right bar on TL, they're separate. There are separate entries for each player in the Korea and International Databases. If you actually look at the entire list of players in the International Database and sort by ELO, you'll see that the top ELOs are actually Korean. They simply are not displayed in the sidebar because they have a Korean flag associated with them. | ||
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tubs
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Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
But when (I used the word when, rather than if) Major stuffs up and leaves again, will the TSL coach be having another raging session? | ||
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United States18466 Posts
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United States1319 Posts
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genius_man16
United States749 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:01 carloselcoco wrote: He does not deserve it. :/ He can be a good player and all, not going to take that from him, but still his attitude is simply not deserving of such privilege... I share similar sentiments, but perhaps he can prove us wrong? I hope so. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
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parazice
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Shellshock
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sashamunguia
Mexico423 Posts
congrats man, I know u can do great out there, kick some ass  | ||
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Altern
United States1053 Posts
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Nexic
United States729 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:01 carloselcoco wrote: That makes no sense, he deserves it because he's fucking good and he earned it, otherwise they wouldn't have wanted him to come. They no doubt practiced with him and recognized his skill/potential, I believe previously he was invited to NSHoSeo as well.He does not deserve it. :/ He can be a good player and all, not going to take that from him, but still his attitude is simply not deserving of such privilege... | ||
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scarper65
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
gl anyways, def good enough to do it | ||
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ThE_OsToJiY
Canada1167 Posts
best of luck buddy | ||
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Jawmare
Canada85 Posts
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
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Mexico1605 Posts
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trikshun
United States437 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:22 -Strider- wrote: He will become a code S player easily, but I hope he doesn't screw things up! I will feel sad for TSL if something like that happens Easily? Noooo it will be difficult. | ||
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Qaatar
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Edit: props to Artosis for doing this as well! | ||
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Lunas
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On September 21 2011 13:58 SafeAsCheese wrote: ELO is so biased towards people who avoid big tourneys with koreans lol Hmm, no thats not how ELO works the koreans that enter tournaments got a veyr high ELO so it doesnt matter to a foreign players ELO if they lose only if they beat them. | ||
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scarper65
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He plays Terran, which apparently is the strongest race right now. And he has some of the best mechanics I have personally ever seen. I think he can easily become the best foreigner, if not a top korean | ||
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IamAnton
Canada335 Posts
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AxionSteel
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:25 IamAnton wrote: Weird wonder why they picked him up as opposed to a more successful player in terms of LANS. Work in progress maybe. You act as if teamless foreign players eager to join Korean teams grow on trees. Major is pretty much the best player out there available besides Naniwa (who is probably already working something out as we speak). | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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babo213
United States266 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:25 scarper65 wrote: He plays Terran, which apparently is the strongest race right now. And he has some of the best mechanics I have personally ever seen. I think he can easily become the best foreigner, if not a top korean He might be able to become a top foreigner, but it won't be done easily. I kind of wonder why TSL would take a risk on him. Based on history, I'm not sure he'll last long in TSL or Korea. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
Don't screw this up. | ||
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duk3
United States807 Posts
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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
Hopefully he matures during his time in Korea, both as a player and a person...he would do well with maturity in both aspects. And goddam does he need to lose some weight lol | ||
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
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Mortal
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On September 21 2011 14:28 Subversion wrote: You don't deserve all the things Artosis does for you, Major. Don't screw this up. Pretty much this. Almost guaranteed he'll fuck it up within a month though. Countdown starts now. | ||
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Ashes
United States362 Posts
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Uncultured
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Dakkas
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I love TSL dearly and don't want this to hurt them, especially when they're such a close-knit team that's doing so well | ||
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HellionDrop
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Xingke
United States78 Posts
On a more realistic note, I expect to see more contract/sponsor/attitude problems posted about TSL/Major in a few months. | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
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MattRz
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Predguin
Canada188 Posts
Hopefully he goes far, Artosis has worked pretty hard to get him where he is, I think. | ||
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Namu
United States826 Posts
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Geo.Rion
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On September 21 2011 13:58 SafeAsCheese wrote: ELO is so biased towards people who avoid big tourneys with koreans lol yeah, my thoughts exactly, sometimes the top 5 seems really wierd. GL for Major i guess | ||
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speakerbox
Canada453 Posts
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oDieN[Siege]
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Wuster
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On September 21 2011 14:36 Mortal wrote: Pretty much this. Almost guaranteed he'll fuck it up within a month though. Countdown starts now. I'm trying not to be cynical but part of me feels this way too. On the other hand, this has pretty much been his (and Artosis) mission since they joined SixJax (and even during BW), so maybe he'll buckle down now. | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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Contagious
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kissables
United States28 Posts
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Xkalibert
United States1404 Posts
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
thank you, artosis. terran is by far my favorite player atm, and this is not only a huge service for the fans, but for juan too. thank you. | ||
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:54 Xkalibert wrote: I like to ask this question, Incontrol mention this in SOTG also, Will this make Foreigners look bad to Koreans in term of bad manners and attitudes players from BW like Fenix, Major and Naniwa are going to Korean team. Deezer and CombatEx next? you do know that IdrA was in Korea for three straight years, right? they know that certain players have attitudes, but i dont think they mind all too much. | ||
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fuzzayy
United States99 Posts
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pbjsandwich
United States443 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:54 Xkalibert wrote: I like to ask this question, Incontrol mention this in SOTG also, Will this make Foreigners look bad to Koreans in term of bad manners and attitudes players from BW like Fenix, Major and Naniwa are going to Korean team. Deezer and CombatEx next? how canu even put those guys on the same level are you kidding me? Why don't you think before you post? the guys you listed actually have talent and aren't even that BM. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
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Theeakoz
United States1114 Posts
God speed major | ||
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CoolSea
United States236 Posts
It's somewhat ironic that the people who seem to have bad attitudes are the ones who are willing to give up everything in order to get better at this game (Nani, Fenix, GosITerran) Best of luck Juan!! | ||
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Sukari
Australia183 Posts
(Don't want to see a SDM-IdrA scene ) | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On April 10 2011 15:30 iNcontroL wrote: OH SWEET JESUS LOL | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Actually I knew he's going to be on a korean team since august, because despite his history, he's just a damn good player who's never going to be left without a pro team. | ||
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KaluGOSU
United States171 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Is this a trend for good foreigners who can't get along w/ foreign teams? | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
Nah, probably not. | ||
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Hoodlum
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:59 Sadistx wrote: To all haters who said Juan will never join another team - Ha Ha Ha. Actually I knew he's going to be on a korean team since august, because despite his history, he's just a damn good player who's never going to be left without a pro team. Juan screwed a lot of things up. But he remembered the most important thing, which amazingly lots of foreigners "pros" seem to forget. That is to actually be good at SC. | ||
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1oo
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ChadMann
Australia128 Posts
As much as i respect Major and hope he does well... I still cannot forgive the Dox cup incident. Hopefully living in a pro house gives him some perspective and he learns so respect and manner. gl hf Major. | ||
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MagicGunner
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sunman1g
United States334 Posts
he's my favorite foreign terran and I can't wait to see him beast it up in korea | ||
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Empirimancer
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
but I honestly feel like this will be good for TSL +1 fan, unless they are playing Julyzerg | ||
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eleaf
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SillyPrincess
Canada115 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:58 SafeAsCheese wrote: ELO is so biased towards people who avoid big tourneys with koreans lol 100% truth. White-Ra 2nd best foreigner? WTF | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
And above all make Artosis proud ^^ | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
Best of luck MajOr - give 'em hell! | ||
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:14 SillyPrincess wrote: 100% truth. White-Ra 2nd best foreigner? WTF at least white-ra is closer to the 2nd than major to 3rd. Hope major does well in korea, he for sure has great talent, although i dont like his personaly too much from what i saw so far (i have no bw background, so i dont know too much about him obv) | ||
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Logros
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zocktol
Germany1928 Posts
Would suck for Artosis SOOOOO much. | ||
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Australia317 Posts
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United States58 Posts
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MBV
United States83 Posts
P.S. that really is an awesome view they have. | ||
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provrorsbarn
Sweden766 Posts
I hope he matures as a player and gets good results..... The TSL house looks really nice.....not overcrowded at all as the other pro-team houses.....I wouldnt mind practicing there | ||
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:26 Veclada wrote: Blah, the chance of screwing it up is high with his past I was like that as well. I hope that he won't screw it. Best of luck, MajOr! Very nice | ||
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Canada3980 Posts
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:19 Tryxtira wrote: It's almost like Artosis has too high beliefs in this guy. Seriously, has he ever done anything but letting Artosis down? Don't think so.. won a trip to blizzcon, placed well in mlgs, came to sc2 much later than most top foreigners and is one of the scariest around, was very talented in BW... just a couple of things... | ||
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xhkz
Canada34 Posts
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eksert
France656 Posts
even bigger than releasing puma^^ | ||
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eksert
France656 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:32 Tump wrote: won a trip to blizzcon, placed well in mlgs, came to sc2 much later than most top foreigners and is one of the scariest around, was very talented in BW... just a couple of things... place well in mlgs??? please give some proofs dude, placing in top 32 u mean? blizzcon from south america qualifiers??? Scariest?? What do u mean I dont believe that any of big foreigner teams respect major terran or whatever his nick is=) he is just neglectable | ||
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
no disrespect meant, but doesn't major kind of look like a mexican michael moore? gl in korea! | ||
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Noxblood
Norway374 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:33 eksert wrote: biggest mistake that TSL can do even bigger than releasing puma^^ Don't be so fast to write of Major! he is still very young. it is a reason Artosis always say that he see a lot of himself inn major. and Korea did Artosis very good! It's is easy too judge it is hard to believe! | ||
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
All the best MajOr | ||
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Ruscour
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On September 21 2011 15:34 eksert wrote: place well in mlgs??? please give some proofs dude, placing in top 32 u mean? blizzcon from south america qualifiers??? Scariest?? What do u mean I dont believe that any of big foreigner teams respect major terran or whatever his nick is=) he is just neglectableThat open bracket is disgustingly difficult, and it's no secret that he is very good. Neglectable is an outright lie if you've been following him in even the slightest of ways. | ||
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Xaerkar
United States230 Posts
). I can't wait to see him dominate in the GSL, I'm sure his notorious antics will also add a humorous touch to the Korean gaming scene. | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
and nice room/view that killer has, seems like one of the nicer team houses | ||
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United States679 Posts
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Australia2108 Posts
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Australia190 Posts
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United States4714 Posts
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:34 eksert wrote: Have you actually sat down and watched him play? He is insanely good with amazing macro. I first saw him play SC2 when ROOT first picked him up and had him playing games on Catz's stream with everyone walking him through how the game worked. He was beating players from ROOT and Fnatic and he didn't even know basic game info, like that banshees could get cloak or things like that at the time. He could basically outmacro everyone he played, play SC1-style Terran and win. With practice partners from TSL I would not be shocked if he became a top foreigner.Scariest?? What do u mean I dont believe that any of big foreigner teams respect major terran or whatever his nick is=) he is just neglectable | ||
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fer
Canada375 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:34 eksert wrote: place well in mlgs??? please give some proofs dude, placing in top 32 u mean? blizzcon from south america qualifiers??? Scariest?? What do u mean I dont believe that any of big foreigner teams respect major terran or whatever his nick is=) he is just neglectableUnfortunately, your opinion is the one that's "neglectable". MajOr/Terran will continue to be a great player regardless of what your opinion of him may be. TSL thinks he's good enough for him to join the team full-time. I understand he may be a little immature or bad mannered, but give credit where it's due. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
I will quote myself in 3 months (or less) as proof. I like TSL in general. Uh...good luck. :/ | ||
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GumThief
Canada284 Posts
Also he is so amazingly awkward I want to give that guy a hug. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10671 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:28 Subversion wrote: You don't deserve all the things Artosis does for you, Major. Don't screw this up. Seriously. How many chances is this guy going to get....... I don't even understand. Well...goodluck to TSL and Major.. hopefully he can fill the gap of Puma. | ||
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marxgarza
United States373 Posts
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:56 Ben... wrote: Have you actually sat down and watched him play? He is insanely good with amazing macro. I first saw him play SC2 when ROOT first picked him up and had him playing games on Catz's stream with everyone walking him through how the game worked. He was beating players from ROOT and Fnatic and he didn't even know basic game info, like that banshees could get cloak or things like that at the time. He could basically outmacro everyone he played, play SC1-style Terran and win. With practice partners from TSL I would not be shocked if he became a top foreigner. lol those were funny days. He didn't even know what creep tumors were. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Also, my friends, we are forgetting the biggest thing in this whole equation: Major has to wear the TSL pants. | ||
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havox_
Germany442 Posts
PS: ELO obv suxx | ||
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shortsteve
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His improvement was substantial and you could tell he works hard at getting better. Until this last MLG (which he didn't attend) he was significantly improving after every single tournament and that was mostly just training online. Now that he's in an official house with a good coach I can only see his play skyrocket. | ||
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Finland319 Posts
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:03 Emporio wrote: lol those were funny days. He didn't even know what creep tumors were. haha like the first NaDa SC2 footage - him playing versus IdrA: as the Broodlords were destroying his whole army he looked puzzled into the camera because he didn't know what was happening ^_^. | ||
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Treetop
United States140 Posts
As someone said in the early pages of the thread, perhaps the language barrier between him and the Korean players will be an advantage for him since they might not know exactly the things he's saying. He will screw this up like he has everything else. There are hundreds of other players that deserve this chance before Major does...I'll always root for TSL but never for him. He's just..poison. | ||
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Grettin
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On September 21 2011 14:28 Subversion wrote: You don't deserve all the things Artosis does for you, Major. Don't screw this up. Well said.. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
Also, my friends, we are forgetting the biggest thing in this whole equation: Major has to wear the TSL pants. What do you mean?? | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
That is pretty much what he's been aiming for since his Broodwar days, and all the drama about him switching teams has often been related to the support he's been getting (or lack thereof) in terms of his aim to go to Korea. Now that he's in Korea he might start being slightly more serious. | ||
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:48 IMSmooth wrote: Its awesome to see the passion Artosis has for this game and the players Ain't it the truth. Awesome guy's awesome and I really hope MajOr doesn't let him down again. You have the skill man, now you have the chance in Korea that you wanted, take it. Hoping for great things! | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
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France2916 Posts
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Vandalman
United States66 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:21 Grend wrote: Do not break the heart of the Artosis. Please! haha agreed Best move i think he could have made, Korea will hopefully shape up his bm. | ||
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United States559 Posts
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
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Madera
Sweden2672 Posts
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Pull
United States308 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
And i'm like Ô_Ô I think i need to get my eyes checked or something | ||
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
Good luck, Major :-) | ||
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Jank
United States308 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:34 ELA wrote: Every time this catches my eye in the news section, I read "MajOr wins TSL" And i'm like Ô_Ô I think i need to get my eyes checked or something Nah man, you got great eyes. They're seeing into the future. :D | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Shuray
Brazil642 Posts
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
MAJOR: You know how that go. ARTOSIS: Say what? MAJOR: I'm sayin', you know, bad rep ain't no joke. ARTOSIS: I don't know **** about bad rep. I don't plan on knowing **** about bad rep, you feel me? You wanna talk about bad rep though, you can go sit down next to IdrA. He just got back to Korea. MAJOR: True, you right. ARTOSIS: Sit your ass down. MAJOR sits down. MAJOR: I know it ain't go so good, but Sixjax? They caught me off guard. They came at me like they were gonna fly me out to events. ARTOSIS: So you just leave the mother****ers? MAJOR: I'm sayin, it was them or me! ARTOSIS: You start playing SC2. You got people in Korea, you got more mother****ing people in America. I'm working hard on giving you a good reputation. ARTOSIS pulls a stool and sits down. ARTOSIS: So what I'm trying to figure out is, how the **** do you end up leaving three teams with TL forum witnesses around? MAJOR: I'm saying, they were all coming to me like they was gonna take me to the next level! ARTOSIS: This ain't about them. It's about you. You can't commit to a team, you can't get your ass to MLG so the first thing you do is you go on SEA. You steal an account, you do some dumb ****, that now we gotta work around. MAJOR: I know. ARTOSIS: Yo, you ain't saying one mother****ing thing I wanna hear. MAJOR: You right. You right, I mean, I gotta start thinking more. You be saying that all the time, and you right. I'm saying though, I mean... that **** you pulled with TSL, it was tight. I mean those TL forums? I ain't never seen those forums get so angry! You shoulda been there! ARTOSIS shakes his head wearily. ARTOSIS: Yo man, you family. OK? But that **** costs money. It costs time, and money. You gon' make that right? MAJOR: Most def. You gon' see, when I get to the practice house, I'ma push myself. ARTOSIS nods. ARTOSIS: Alright. MAJOR gets up to leave. ARTOSIS: Hey, come here. Don't walk outta here like that. You family, alright? ARTOSIS embraces MAJOR in a paternal fashion. MAJOR: Alright. ARTOSIS: You know it's always love. MAJOR exits. End scene. | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
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woobsauce
United States491 Posts
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:37 snotboogie wrote: ARTOSIS: So you must feel good. MAJOR: You know how that go. ARTOSIS: Say what? MAJOR: I'm sayin', you know, bad rep ain't no joke. ARTOSIS: I don't know **** about bad rep. I don't plan on knowing **** about bad rep, you feel me? You wanna talk about bad rep though, you can go sit down next to IdrA. He just got back to Korea. MAJOR: True, you right. ARTOSIS: Sit your ass down. MAJOR sits down. MAJOR: I know it ain't go so good, but Sixjax? They caught me off guard. They came at me like they were gonna fly me out to events. ARTOSIS: So you just leave the mother****ers? MAJOR: I'm sayin, it was them or me! ARTOSIS: You start playing SC2. You got people in Korea, you got more mother****ing people in America. I'm working hard on giving you a good reputation. ARTOSIS pulls a stool and sits down. ARTOSIS: So what I'm trying to figure out is, how the **** do you end up leaving three teams with TL forum witnesses around? MAJOR: I'm saying, they were all coming to me like they was gonna take me to the next level! ARTOSIS: This ain't about them. It's about you. You can't commit to a team, you can't get your ass to MLG so the first thing you do is you go on SEA. You steal an account, you do some dumb ****, that now we gotta work around. MAJOR: I know. ARTOSIS: Yo, you ain't saying one mother****ing thing I wanna hear. MAJOR: You right. You right, I mean, I gotta start thinking more. You be saying that all the time, and you right. I'm saying though, I mean... that **** you pulled with TSL, it was tight. I mean those TL forums? I ain't never seen those forums get so angry! You shoulda been there! ARTOSIS shakes his head wearily. ARTOSIS: Yo man, you family. OK? But that **** costs money. It costs time, and money. You gon' make that right? MAJOR: Most def. You gon' see, when I get to the practice house, I'ma push myself. ARTOSIS nods. ARTOSIS: Alright. MAJOR gets up to leave. ARTOSIS: Hey, come here. Don't walk outta here like that. You family, alright? MAJOR: Alright. ARTOSIS: You know it's always love. MAJOR exits. End scene. Why do you insist on killing my brain cells? | ||
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Artosis is a hero. | ||
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
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Jank
United States308 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:37 snotboogie wrote: + Show Spoiler + ARTOSIS: So you must feel good. MAJOR: You know how that go. ARTOSIS: Say what? MAJOR: I'm sayin', you know, bad rep ain't no joke. ARTOSIS: I don't know **** about bad rep. I don't plan on knowing **** about bad rep, you feel me? You wanna talk about bad rep though, you can go sit down next to IdrA. He just got back to Korea. MAJOR: True, you right. ARTOSIS: Sit your ass down. MAJOR sits down. MAJOR: I know it ain't go so good, but Sixjax? They caught me off guard. They came at me like they were gonna fly me out to events. ARTOSIS: So you just leave the mother****ers? MAJOR: I'm sayin, it was them or me! ARTOSIS: You start playing SC2. You got people in Korea, you got more mother****ing people in America. I'm working hard on giving you a good reputation. ARTOSIS pulls a stool and sits down. ARTOSIS: So what I'm trying to figure out is, how the **** do you end up leaving three teams with TL forum witnesses around? MAJOR: I'm saying, they were all coming to me like they was gonna take me to the next level! ARTOSIS: This ain't about them. It's about you. You can't commit to a team, you can't get your ass to MLG so the first thing you do is you go on SEA. You steal an account, you do some dumb ****, that now we gotta work around. MAJOR: I know. ARTOSIS: Yo, you ain't saying one mother****ing thing I wanna hear. MAJOR: You right. You right, I mean, I gotta start thinking more. You be saying that all the time, and you right. I'm saying though, I mean... that **** you pulled with TSL, it was tight. I mean those TL forums? I ain't never seen those forums get so angry! You shoulda been there! ARTOSIS shakes his head wearily. ARTOSIS: Yo man, you family. OK? But that **** costs money. It costs time, and money. You gon' make that right? MAJOR: Most def. You gon' see, when I get to the practice house, I'ma push myself. ARTOSIS nods. ARTOSIS: Alright. MAJOR gets up to leave. ARTOSIS: Hey, come here. Don't walk outta here like that. You family, alright? ARTOSIS embraces MAJOR in a paternal fashion. MAJOR: Alright. ARTOSIS: You know it's always love. MAJOR exits. End scene. Haha ridiculous juxtaposition man. The wire is a great series, everyone should watch it  . On a more related note, I'm so happy MajOr has finally fulfilled his dreams. His lack of social skills have really held him back at times but I think his attitude towards the game and his work ethic are perfect for succeeding in korea. Artosis is the man for giving him this opportunity. I have complete faith major will be able to manner up, step it up, and pwn it up in the GSL and abroad. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:04 Fionn wrote: Also, my friends, we are forgetting the biggest thing in this whole equation: Major has to wear the TSL pants. Oh my. That will be something else.  | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
they kinda have problems holding onto their current players (PuMa, FD, Trickster/TesteR) >.> as well as Major likes to jump teams... | ||
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BigKahunaBurger
Australia334 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:37 snotboogie wrote: ARTOSIS: So you must feel good. MAJOR: You know how that go. ARTOSIS: Say what? MAJOR: I'm sayin', you know, bad rep ain't no joke. ARTOSIS: I don't know **** about bad rep. I don't plan on knowing **** about bad rep, you feel me? You wanna talk about bad rep though, you can go sit down next to IdrA. He just got back to Korea. MAJOR: True, you right. ARTOSIS: Sit your ass down. MAJOR sits down. MAJOR: I know it ain't go so good, but Sixjax? They caught me off guard. They came at me like they were gonna fly me out to events. ARTOSIS: So you just leave the mother****ers? MAJOR: I'm sayin, it was them or me! ARTOSIS: You start playing SC2. You got people in Korea, you got more mother****ing people in America. I'm working hard on giving you a good reputation. ARTOSIS pulls a stool and sits down. ARTOSIS: So what I'm trying to figure out is, how the **** do you end up leaving three teams with TL forum witnesses around? MAJOR: I'm saying, they were all coming to me like they was gonna take me to the next level! ARTOSIS: This ain't about them. It's about you. You can't commit to a team, you can't get your ass to MLG so the first thing you do is you go on SEA. You steal an account, you do some dumb ****, that now we gotta work around. MAJOR: I know. ARTOSIS: Yo, you ain't saying one mother****ing thing I wanna hear. MAJOR: You right. You right, I mean, I gotta start thinking more. You be saying that all the time, and you right. I'm saying though, I mean... that **** you pulled with TSL, it was tight. I mean those TL forums? I ain't never seen those forums get so angry! You shoulda been there! ARTOSIS shakes his head wearily. ARTOSIS: Yo man, you family. OK? But that **** costs money. It costs time, and money. You gon' make that right? MAJOR: Most def. You gon' see, when I get to the practice house, I'ma push myself. ARTOSIS nods. ARTOSIS: Alright. MAJOR gets up to leave. ARTOSIS: Hey, come here. Don't walk outta here like that. You family, alright? ARTOSIS embraces MAJOR in a paternal fashion. MAJOR: Alright. ARTOSIS: You know it's always love. MAJOR exits. End scene. NESTEA COMING! EVERYBODY LOOK OUT, NESTEA ON THE WARPATH. NESTEA COMIN! My god this was so sweet. Really happy for Major to have found a home, and more important, really happy to see that sick baller Sang-Ho in his natural habitat. Hopefully this is a sign of more to come with foreigners shacking up with Korean teams. | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
And no CLIDDDDDEEE from Artosis, damn | ||
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:56 Ben... wrote: Have you actually sat down and watched him play? He is insanely good with amazing macro. I first saw him play SC2 when ROOT first picked him up and had him playing games on Catz's stream with everyone walking him through how the game worked. He was beating players from ROOT and Fnatic and he didn't even know basic game info, like that banshees could get cloak or things like that at the time. He could basically outmacro everyone he played, play SC1-style Terran and win. With practice partners from TSL I would not be shocked if he became a top foreigner. Major has good mechanics but he basically just copies builds. Catz will tell you the same thing. | ||
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Night Eyes
433 Posts
And even worse I'm not sure how to reply to this... the first few pages on this topic are mostly positive and wish major the best. Is this really the same TL that wanted to kill the guy time and time again after his BM and smurfing events? And then I say to myself that this is just like any other young rash player that gets a shot at a big team in any other sport. The only bad thing that can (and IMO will) happen is that major will set a bar for no-Korean in Korean teams, a bad bar . Sure we have/had Fenix, Huk, Idra and all the past SC:BW players that have been in pro teams before. But when a guy like Artosis to put his neck on the line for a player that means he has to be something out of this world, in skill and in person. I don't see major as that player. Good luck. | ||
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Mise
Finland580 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:49 mindspike wrote: Major has good mechanics but he basically just copies builds. Catz will tell you the same thing. And? Pretty damn sure you can be the best doing that ^^ . | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:49 mindspike wrote: Major has good mechanics but he basically just copies builds. Catz will tell you the same thing. Why ask CatZ about it? O_o It's not like Major is denying it - the guy even copies the names of Korean players. | ||
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r4pture
United States397 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:50 Night Eyes wrote: I'm honestly shocked. And even worse I'm not sure how to reply to this... the first few pages on this topic are mostly positive and wish major the best. Is this really the same TL that wanted to kill the guy time and time again after his BM and smurfing events? And then I say to myself that this is just like any other young rash player that gets a shot at a big team in any other sport. The only bad thing that can (and IMO will) happen is that major will set a bar for no-Korean in Korean teams, a bad bar . Sure we have/had Fenix, Huk, Idra and all the past SC:BW players that have been in pro teams before. But when a guy like Artosis to put his neck on the line for a player that means he has to be something out of this world, in skill and in person. I don't see major as that player. Good luck. Of course his fans are gonna be the first to post on something good for him, because they care. And of course his haters will be the first to post on something bad for him because they don't care. Logical thinking is good ftw! Major hwaiting! | ||
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Gelenn
United States87 Posts
GL to Major, I hope both his skills and professionalism improve with his time in Korea! | ||
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BliptiX
Canada324 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:53 r4pture wrote: I find it funny that Mr. Lee was worried about major because he was "chubby". wtf, why the chub hate, Korea? He was just worried about the operating expenses, man. | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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smocca
United States83 Posts
GL to you Major! | ||
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Night Eyes
433 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:54 Alpino wrote: Of course his fans are gonna be the first to post on something good for him, because they care. And of course his haters will be the first to post on something bad for him because they don't care. Logical thinking is good ftw! Major hwaiting! I'm not too sure about it, I think it has more to do with the fact that people want a none-Korean to do well in Korea more then they dislike major. | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
But seriously, major is a terrific player and has lots of potenital, but i am worried he might go bm again and be all mean to TSL. But if he just stays nice and good mannered, he will be a great asset to the team | ||
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pique
143 Posts
On September 21 2011 17:00 firehand101 wrote: That was a crapload of voids! my god MC he is goin crazy strats to get back into code S! But seriously, major is a terrific player and has lots of potenital, but i am worried he might go bm again and be all mean to TSL. But if he just stays nice and good mannered, he will be a great asset to the team he won't bm koreans, he's in love with koreans. it sounds like they might bm him over his weight, however. | ||
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SamsLiST
Germany184 Posts
E: But I LOVE best foreigners beeing in Korea,..obv better solution then buyin Koreans out and let them rot in nOOb-lands (knows as: rest of the world) | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
Really hope he doesnt mess it up this time.... Good Luck | ||
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:37 snotboogie wrote: ARTOSIS: So you must feel good. MAJOR: You know how that go. ARTOSIS: Say what? MAJOR: I'm sayin', you know, bad rep ain't no joke. ARTOSIS: I don't know **** about bad rep. I don't plan on knowing **** about bad rep, you feel me? You wanna talk about bad rep though, you can go sit down next to IdrA. He just got back to Korea. MAJOR: True, you right. ARTOSIS: Sit your ass down. MAJOR sits down. MAJOR: I know it ain't go so good, but Sixjax? They caught me off guard. They came at me like they were gonna fly me out to events. ARTOSIS: So you just leave the mother****ers? MAJOR: I'm sayin, it was them or me! ARTOSIS: You start playing SC2. You got people in Korea, you got more mother****ing people in America. I'm working hard on giving you a good reputation. ARTOSIS pulls a stool and sits down. ARTOSIS: So what I'm trying to figure out is, how the **** do you end up leaving three teams with TL forum witnesses around? MAJOR: I'm saying, they were all coming to me like they was gonna take me to the next level! ARTOSIS: This ain't about them. It's about you. You can't commit to a team, you can't get your ass to MLG so the first thing you do is you go on SEA. You steal an account, you do some dumb ****, that now we gotta work around. MAJOR: I know. ARTOSIS: Yo, you ain't saying one mother****ing thing I wanna hear. MAJOR: You right. You right, I mean, I gotta start thinking more. You be saying that all the time, and you right. I'm saying though, I mean... that **** you pulled with TSL, it was tight. I mean those TL forums? I ain't never seen those forums get so angry! You shoulda been there! ARTOSIS shakes his head wearily. ARTOSIS: Yo man, you family. OK? But that **** costs money. It costs time, and money. You gon' make that right? MAJOR: Most def. You gon' see, when I get to the practice house, I'ma push myself. ARTOSIS nods. ARTOSIS: Alright. MAJOR gets up to leave. ARTOSIS: Hey, come here. Don't walk outta here like that. You family, alright? ARTOSIS embraces MAJOR in a paternal fashion. MAJOR: Alright. ARTOSIS: You know it's always love. MAJOR exits. End scene. The game...IS... the game. | ||
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Benkestok
Denmark63 Posts
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Apollo_Shards
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And totally called it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229808¤tpage=17#321 | ||
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:54 Xkalibert wrote: I like to ask this question, Incontrol mention this in SOTG also, Will this make Foreigners look bad to Koreans in term of bad manners and attitudes players like Fenix, Major and Naniwa are going to Korean team. Deezer and CombatEx next? How about he starts talking about his team mate idra? Koreans know some foreigners are bm and some arent. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11047 Posts
Still... 2 months? | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On September 21 2011 17:13 Benkestok wrote: Man, TSL is really going out of their way to make not wanna cheer for them. Im sorry, but players like Major, are just not worthy. Then don't cheer. I'll cheer enough for TSL to fill the quota for both of us. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
I hope he doesn't screw this up and I am looking forward to his performence! | ||
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Xanthopsia
Australia41 Posts
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s00pr
Sweden94 Posts
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baby elephant
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Kanaz
Denmark658 Posts
Major having a good chance to offend ppl in korea, but on the other hand have potential that few foreigners can match. Looking forward to see how this goes, gogo Maj0r! | ||
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tiaz
Sweden231 Posts
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TheSurgeonTV
United States131 Posts
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
On September 21 2011 14:54 Xkalibert wrote: I like to ask this question, Incontrol mention this in SOTG also, Will this make Foreigners look bad to Koreans in term of bad manners and attitudes players from BW like Fenix, Major and Naniwa are going to Korean team. Deezer and CombatEx next? So someone from EG was asking if this would make foreigners look bad? Wow short memories of the Puma poaching. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On September 21 2011 17:24 leveller wrote: How about he starts talking about his team mate idra? Koreans know some foreigners are bm and some arent. rofl this, so many times this Many koreans stated in previous interviews that they wanted to face IdrA because he insulted them on ladder. Even though I'm definitely no Major fan, I doubt that he can make foreigners look worse in terms of manner than IdrA - concerning manner on ladder-play, that is. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On September 21 2011 17:43 Full.tilt wrote: Good luck Major! Foreigners fighting! So someone from EG was asking if this would make foreigners look bad? Wow short memories of the Puma poaching. Plus there's also a certain EGIdrA who wasn't particularly pleasent to many Koreans he met on ladder I think they found him funny for the most part though. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On September 21 2011 17:44 sleepingdog wrote: rofl this, so many times this Many koreans stated in previous interviews that they wanted to face IdrA because he insulted them on ladder. Even though I'm definitely no Major fan, I doubt that he can make foreigners look worse in terms of manner than IdrA - concerning manner on ladder-play, that is. Actually, a lot of koreans invented a lot of things about IdrA (like the whole kimchiman story) because it was kind of the cool thing to do at the time. IdrA rarely speak while laddering, he just doesnt "gg". | ||
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towerranger
Austria134 Posts
wish him all the best. thanks artosis for this video and your effort | ||
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Skarmory
112 Posts
You're a REALLY good player Major, but I think Koreans are going to be much more critical of your bad decisions than your previous team was. | ||
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
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2par
Norway129 Posts
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Clicker
United States1012 Posts
Grats, Major. Because of Major's history though, I'm disappointed that he'd be one of the first foreigners to make this jump. Over others, that is. | ||
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Switzerland1365 Posts
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
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StateAlchemist
France1946 Posts
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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Australia2542 Posts
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Ramble
Sweden877 Posts
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ch4ppi
Germany802 Posts
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United Kingdom64 Posts
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France1919 Posts
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
I hope he doesn't fuck this one up too. | ||
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Benga
Korea (South)471 Posts
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United States244 Posts
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Australia12 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On September 21 2011 17:45 bokchoi wrote: Good luck to GosI[Terran] and congratulations for finally getting the opportunity to leave his dream. People who say he doesn't deserve the opportunity are dumb. When it comes to dedication and passion for the actual game.. he's probably one of the most dedicated and passionate players out there. Can't wait to see what kind of monster he becomes. I'm cringing so hard at this right now.... /cringe But yeah, it seems like this is what's best for Major, best of luck to him and hope he places well for GSL. He's definitely got the passion for it. | ||
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HotShizz
France710 Posts
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cray
United States28 Posts
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
Please Major... you've made it to the top now. Please dont get any more ambitious... | ||
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JustPassingBy
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
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nOondn
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Earawen
France51 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
Always. + Show Spoiler + I love you, Wire fans. | ||
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Connor987
United Kingdom103 Posts
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
I hope Major don't do anything dumb this time -_- | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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Frequencyy
United States344 Posts
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IMBAkorean
Canada835 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On September 21 2011 19:42 marcesr wrote: Wow this guy makes me sad...is that really what happens when you spend your whole youth becoming a progamer? Then for God's sake esport better not have a future...are we really producing this kind of fat, antisocial, ugly guys? I dont want that. Apparently we are also producing really shallow judgemental guys as well. Regardless, every time I see an interview with Major I like him a little more, I know he does dumb things and can be a dick but I can't help but warm to his awkwardness. Anyone remember the MLG interview he did when JP asked him to shoutout to his fans and he looked all sad and said he didn't think he had any fans? I really hope he does well, he's a great player. I'm a fan. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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Paladia
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
I thought he was a HuK sized mexican with a similar body type. I think he's one of the best foreign Terrans and I think he'll do well. Hopefully he makes it into Code A or at least is used during the team league. | ||
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arterian
Canada1157 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
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eksert
France656 Posts
On September 21 2011 19:49 MrSexington wrote: That's pretty much the opposite of what I imagined Major looked like. I thought he was a HuK sized mexican with a similar body type. I think he's one of the best foreign Terrans and I think he'll do well. Hopefully he makes it into Code A or at least is used during the team league. Wish him good luck but he wouldnt be in my top 15 foreign terran list.. He's just overhyped and only win in south america tournaments, nothing else. And his character and sportmanship just ... eh we all know who he is.. | ||
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United States307 Posts
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chestnutman
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England377 Posts
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
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ravemir
Portugal595 Posts
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MegaFonzie
Australia1084 Posts
On September 21 2011 19:55 eksert wrote: Wish him good luck but he wouldnt be in my top 15 foreign terran list.. He's just overhyped and only win in south america tournaments, nothing else. And his character and sportmanship just ... eh we all know who he is.. You can name 15 foreign terrans better than him? I don't particularly like him, but there's no denying his skill. He's shown it in various tournaments, including MLGs | ||
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arterian
Canada1157 Posts
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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:58 SafeAsCheese wrote: ELO is so biased towards people who avoid big tourneys with koreans lol Because flying to Korea to be in gsl is avoiding big tourneys with Koreans... | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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JonnyClark
United Kingdom79 Posts
On September 21 2011 19:49 MrSexington wrote: a HuK sized mexican with a similar body type. Lols. Best description ever. Also, huge love for artosis. what a great guy for bringing him out to korea <3 | ||
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LostFaction
Portugal80 Posts
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Caelyn0101
103 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On September 21 2011 19:55 eksert wrote: Wish him good luck but he wouldnt be in my top 15 foreign terran list.. He's just overhyped and only win in south america tournaments, nothing else. And his character and sportmanship just ... eh we all know who he is.. Lol ok, go ahead and name them. | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
good thing for major nice nice nice nice thats what you get haters | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
GL to him, awesome to have more foreigners in Korean proteams! | ||
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Marsupian
Netherlands455 Posts
GL to Major! | ||
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Caelyn0101
103 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:29 Marsupian wrote: I think this is a good move for Major and will likely make him behave more professional from now on. In the past almost all the controversy he has caused was always (or almost always) because of his ambition and drive to win. Now that he is in a place where the only thing stopping him from winning everything is himself I think it's highly unlikely he will act badly in the future. GL to Major! I dont think he will ever act more professional he has social problems that he can't help, It's not his fault. and this isn't a popularity contest tbh. Reguardless of his attitude and the issues hes had in the past, hes a great player, and korea will do him great. | ||
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
GL major glad you're achieving your dream. | ||
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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chuigo
Australia93 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9376 Posts
On September 21 2011 19:55 eksert wrote: Wish him good luck but he wouldnt be in my top 15 foreign terran list.. He's just overhyped and only win in south america tournaments, nothing else. And his character and sportmanship just ... eh we all know who he is.. Who is better and why? (dont argue using just results). As someone who watches a lot of games by top foreign terran players, Major is definitely one of the best foreign terran players. Might just be the best. His weakness is his control, but his macro and multitasking is better than any other foreigner. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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AndChe
Chile18 Posts
is incredible that the first foreigners to enter Korean teams are Latino. gogo LA ftw! : D | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
So maybe the coach of TSL still remembers him well from that and decided to take him into the team. | ||
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GeedrAhsc
United States97 Posts
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Champi
1422 Posts
this is a really amazing oppurtunity for him as a player, and i hope it goes well for him and it isnt screwed up by something petty or "e-dramatic" really nice to see how much support artosis has for this young guy, and i hope major appreciates this aswell. good luck to him | ||
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Tyree
1508 Posts
Sure Tom Cruise is a crazy scientologist, but he is still a pretty damn good actor (Born on Fourth of July). Judge the actual talent and play, rather than the personality. LeBron is a douchebag but still the most talented basketball player today. | ||
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duckii
Germany1017 Posts
I guess he has the potential to be the best but so have a lot of other terrans. Good luck in korea | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:47 JustPassingBy wrote: Major was a practise partner with several Korean from sc1, right? So maybe the coach of TSL still remembers him well from that and decided to take him into the team. No he wasn't | ||
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
Anyway good luck to TSL, I think they'll need it. | ||
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Asday
United Kingdom388 Posts
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joshboy42
Australia116 Posts
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Gescom
Canada3370 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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WaYoH
Canada15 Posts
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
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Paladia
802 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:50 Tyree wrote: Who cares that he is "socially retarded" (Artosis's words on State of the Game) when he is such a fantastic player. I congratulate him on this and hope he does well in Korea Fantastic players don't need to cheat. Nor does player skill mean you will be liked. | ||
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Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
Lots of foreigners invading korea now, this is great! | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
match made in heaven Coach Lee vs major - the only question is who will fuck over the other first? | ||
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VPCursed
1044 Posts
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Leetley
1796 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
He was an online practice partner for HITE SparkyZ (now merged into CJ Entus) and was set to go to Korea for BW, but then SC2 came out. | ||
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mechavoc
United States664 Posts
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
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gCgCrypto
Germany297 Posts
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vommy
Germany532 Posts
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
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icclown
Denmark270 Posts
(he was the MBC 2nd coach, aye?) | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:54 duckii wrote: He is top 10 foreign terran for sure. I guess he has the potential to be the best but so have a lot of other terrans. Good luck in korea Lol, he's more like top 3. | ||
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
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zocktol
Germany1928 Posts
Will he be TSL_Major? | ||
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Kuni
Austria765 Posts
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flipstar
226 Posts
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Furycrab
Canada456 Posts
... Too soon? | ||
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Liudo
United Kingdom344 Posts
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Legio
Sweden235 Posts
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
Major should be grateful @Artosis and I hope he will learn a lot there... | ||
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elKaDor
Sweden376 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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archflames
Mexico204 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:01 BlitzerSC wrote: He doesn't deserve this opportunity. jelly? User was warned for this post | ||
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Biggun69
187 Posts
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goswser
United States3519 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
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ZOMGitsTHEEND
Canada202 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
LOL @ the Mama Bear interview. I have serious worries about this relationship working out after that. | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:12 Jibba wrote: I wonder if he's ever lived away from home before. pretty sure he hasnt people need to stop bitching about ELO, every bad point about it that ive seen is just some logical fallacy ;/ major really is a top 3 white guy, the system has worked so far. | ||
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Deltablazy
Canada580 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:53 Junichi wrote: The question that pops into my mind after this video: What does Tasteless do all day long? :D I don't know why, but that's what I ask myself now... Major should be grateful @Artosis and I hope he will learn a lot there... Silly question, doing the Tasteless build and stealing your ladder points. | ||
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eksert
France656 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:39 hmunkey wrote: He's going to become even better now, and that's incredibly frightening. Lol, he's more like top 3. yeah he is the best terran winning only a tournament in south america^^ not even in top 15 i repeat.. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:39 hmunkey wrote: He's going to become even better now, and that's incredibly frightening. Lol, he's more like top 3. whaaat ^^ thorzain, sjow, select, jinro, happy, demuslim, kas, brat_ok, tarson, fenix, strelok, qxc, goody etc how do you put him above 10 out of those 12? probably forgetting someone as well | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
can't access said article cause it's KR only | ||
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eksert
France656 Posts
+ 11-08-22 2011 GCPL S2 Bel'shir Be.. ho8ot Win + 11-08-21 2011 CSN Weekend W.. Tal'Darim A.. Neko Win + 11-08-21 2011 CSN Weekend W.. Metalopolis 1.1 Neko Win + 11-08-21 2011 CSN Weekend W.. Shakuras Plateau.. Neko Win + 11-08-21 2011 CSN Weekend W.. Xel'Naga Ca.. ShoX Win + 11-08-21 2011 CSN Weekend W.. The Shattered Te.. ShoX Win + 11-08-21 2011 CSN Weekend W.. Terminus SE ShoX Win + 11-08-20 2011 CSN Weekend W.. Shakuras Plateau.. Moutas Win + 11-08-20 2011 CSN Weekend W.. The Shattered Te.. Moutas Win what the hell are those guys:d | ||
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PixelNite
France1008 Posts
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IMScientist
Italy125 Posts
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:20 hifriend wrote: whaaat ^^ thorzain, sjow, select, jinro, happy, demuslim, kas, brat_ok, tarson, fenix, strelok, qxc, goody etc how do you put him above 10 out of those 12? probably forgetting someone as well Wow, that's some really ignorant post putting GoOdy ahead of him. ThorZain & SeleCT are the only ones ahead of him (imo) because their TvP is a lot better. | ||
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Purpose2
England187 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:21 Milkis wrote: there's an article in korean that says major hasn't joined TSL. Major is only practicing there. can't access said article cause it's KR only That certainly makes things more interesting... perhaps a language-barrier issue? | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:21 Milkis wrote: there's an article in korean that says major hasn't joined TSL. Major is only practicing there. can't access said article cause it's KR only Thanks for the info. | ||
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:23 Purpose2 wrote: That certainly makes things more interesting... perhaps a language-barrier issue? i feel like this is turning out to be another drama, considering how gung-ho artosis was about how he joined TSL?? I guess it probably is a language barrier thing, but it kind of makes things more interesting i suppose | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:20 hifriend wrote: whaaat ^^ thorzain, sjow, select, jinro, happy, demuslim, kas, brat_ok, tarson, fenix, strelok, qxc, goody etc how do you put him above 10 out of those 12? probably forgetting someone as well Because he plays better than everyone there except SeleCT, SjoW and ThorZaIN ? European players man...they're good. If MajOr went to europe instead of Korea.. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Have him practice there. If he behaves for a few months, he can join. If he steps out of line/BM's his practice partners/does something stupid, he gets kicked out. | ||
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:23 butchji wrote: Wow, that's some really ignorant post putting GoOdy ahead of him. ThorZain & SeleCT are the only ones ahead of him (imo) because their TvP is a lot better.How so? There's not one player on that list I wouldn't have expected to come out on top in that horribly weak latin american blizzard invitational lineup. and irregardless, if you read my post carefully you'll know that I wasn't necessarily putting goody ahead of him | ||
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mr.grimm
Sweden63 Posts
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energeist
Canada21 Posts
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QuackPocketDuck
410 Posts
It seems like for years he has been basing his play solidly on Koreans hopefully this will take him to the next level | ||
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
major joins TSL news is wrong. just practice in TSL house. #SC2 5 hours ago | ||
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Deezl
United States355 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:21 Milkis wrote: there's an article in korean that says major hasn't joined TSL. Major is only practicing there. can't access said article cause it's KR only Very interesting information! I would like a response from someone on this | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:41 eYeball wrote: Very interesting information! I would like a response from someone on this Multiple people have responded. Major isn't joining TSL, he's only training there. What do you not understand? | ||
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zeru
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coddan
Estonia890 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:43 zeru wrote: Who is Siwoo Lee and why does he think that? Is there a reason to believe him over artosis? (except for the artosis is always wrong rule) I would guess it's Coach Lee | ||
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nathangentzen
United States41 Posts
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Peitachi
Denmark8 Posts
Was linked on OrangeMilkis' twitter. | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
If he doesn't act like a cunt he will be doing amazing in a couple of months. fucking guy hahah. | ||
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zeru
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
His twitter says that he's an ESPORTS reporter. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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Clamchop1
Canada42 Posts
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:43 two.watup wrote: Multiple people have responded. Major isn't joining TSL, he's only training there. What do you not understand? The fact that while multiple people have stated he isn't on TSL, there are certainly some people (Artosis, and his film series) who seem to think that he is a full fledged member? Unless i'm misinterpreting what he said on SotG, it seemed like he fully believed that to be the case. | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
Considering their head coach is named "Lee"... That's probably a good reason to believe that over Artosis. | ||
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thepuppyassassin
900 Posts
You can't live with someone like that. Watch.. once homesickness and the cramped living conditions start to chip away at him.. there's gonna be an international incident.. and I'm not exaggerating. Community Headline "Major slaps TSL coach" | ||
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Tsenister
United Kingdom112 Posts
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:02 thepuppyassassin wrote: I'm pretty sure that Major has the patience, self-restraint, and discipline of a 3 year old.. You can't live with someone like that. Watch.. once homesickness and the cramped living conditions start to chip away at him.. there's gonna be an international incident.. and I'm not exaggerating. Community Headline "Major slaps TSL coach" You think a player like Major, someone who has been playing his entire childhood JUST to be as good as the Koreans, is going to get bothered by cramped living conditions? LOL | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Also SangHo is a baller, look at that room. edit: On September 21 2011 23:01 GreEny K wrote: Considering their head coach is named "Lee"... That's probably a good reason to believe that over Artosis. Lee must be like the most common family name in Korea. That's like saying "Oh, they both have the surname Smith, they must know each other." | ||
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kakaman
United States1576 Posts
Major not joining the team, just practicing with them. | ||
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thepuppyassassin
900 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:05 radiantshadow92 wrote: You think a player like Major, someone who has been playing his entire childhood JUST to be as good as the Koreans, is going to get bothered by cramped living conditions? LOL His past behavior suggests.... hell yeah! | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:08 thepuppyassassin wrote: His past behavior suggests.... hell yeah! if anything his past behaviors show he just wants to play -.- | ||
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
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Elite__
Canada976 Posts
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vanhio
Niue1017 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote: Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix! Foreigners don't just get to pick a Korean team and force themselves onto the team. Major isn't on TSL because the coach doesn't want him on TSL (yet). That's such an ignorant question. | ||
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PHILtheTANK
United States1834 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote: Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix! Probably because he wasn't offered to join. He was likely offered to train with them, and if he proves a great player they want on their team they can ask him to join. Anyway I don't see what the big deal is. How does practicing at the house differ from being an official member? He has access to the same training partners. He is not good enough to get a salary from tsl either way. If he is not good enough to be offered a spot he would not get to play in gstl either way. I have a hard time seeing how the situations differ. If major becomes good enough to talk about salary or being fielded in gstl I'm sure he'll be offered an official spot on the team. | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:57 SenorChang wrote: Wow, Artosis does not want to give up on major, really really going so far for him. Really hope he appreciates what Artosis is doing for him and stays in line this time. Wonder how it will go for TSL, hopefully majOr doesn't make it a pain for them. Artosis has noted that he sees a lot of his old self in majOr, and that's probably why he's willing to do so much. Especially since he is such a talented player, and he is only getting in his own way. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:26 two.watup wrote: Foreigners don't just get to pick a Korean team and force themselves onto the team. Major isn't on TSL because the coach doesn't want him on TSL (yet). That's such an ignorant question. Well the reason I'm confused is because Artosis said he was 'on' TSL. | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:34 0neder wrote: Well the reason I'm confused is because Artosis said he was 'on' TSL. And if you read past the first page you'd see that it was a mistake to say that. | ||
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ster
Netherlands94 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:08 thepuppyassassin wrote: His past behavior suggests.... hell yeah! Yeah, don't think he will last long in Korea. Even I got claustrophobia by seeing that place, and Major, who probably has been sitting alone in his room his whole life will definitely be having some problems staying with a bunch of other people he doesn't know in a country far away from home. And also, even his only friend artosis is calling him retarded on live broadcasted television. | ||
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Sailincieri
Poland83 Posts
ELO ranking starts looking silly xD MajOr have no real achievements and he is #3? Great... Other players win with koreans, get top places in big tournaments and they are not in TOP10... | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:20 0neder wrote: Wait, the title was changed. So he's not ON TSL? Why don't any of these foreigners actually JOIN the team instead of staying for some insignificant period of time? At least Fenix has taken the next step along with HuK and Jinro. Go Fenix! It is not his choice... Read the thread and watch the interview. He wants to stay forever. He does not speak for TSL though... just chillax | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:27 rasnj wrote: Probably because he wasn't offered to join. He was likely offered to train with them, and if he proves a great player they want on their team they can ask him to join. Anyway I don't see what the big deal is. How does practicing at the house differ from being an official member? He has access to the same training partners. He is not good enough to get a salary from tsl either way. If he is not good enough to be offered a spot he would not get to play in gstl either way. I have a hard time seeing how the situations differ. If major becomes good enough to talk about salary or being fielded in gstl I'm sure he'll be offered an official spot on the team. I think they'll ask him to join eventually, based on these facts:
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:50 Utinni wrote: It is not his choice... Read the thread and watch the interview. He wants to stay forever. He does not speak for TSL though... just chillax He wants to stay in Korea, however, TSL probably want to give him a trial run before they decide to recruit him. I cannot blame him for wanting to stay to be honest. Despite Mexico being quite far from Korea, and the language barrier, MajOr would rather be at the esports mecca than the North American scene. Plus Korea is the place to be if you want to get really good at SC2. I am talking IMMvp good. | ||
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silverstyle
Singapore1108 Posts
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Copenap
723 Posts
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote: I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character. Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:44 Sailincieri wrote: "MajOr, the #3 foreigner in the world by ELO ranking" ELO ranking starts looking silly xD MajOr have no real achievements and he is #3? Great... Other players win with koreans, get top places in big tournaments and they are not in TOP10... I haven't taken the ELO system any serious either, I guess it's just who's hot in winnings right now or something. Because I can name many people that are better than MajOr, but I think his on a hotstreak now or something. Good for him also that this is kind of a trial instead of joining the team right away. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote: Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks Ambition and dedication is part of someone's character. | ||
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
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Philo
United States337 Posts
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:55 Clbull wrote: I think they'll ask him to join eventually, based on these facts:
TSL losing Fruitdealer and Tester was probably the best thing that has ever happened to them, minus the drama. If they really, really need a larger roster, they could always recruit their own local talent (truck tons of them lying around), and they come without a language barrier. No disrespect to MajOr, but until he actually achieves something in at least Code A, TSL doesn't really have an incentive to recruit him. Practice partner, sure. Member? Too tough to call.They don't have much cash lying around anyway. | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:03 ZAiNs wrote: Ambition and dedication is part of someone's character. What the NA scene needs are not funny SC2 personalities like Husky, HD and Destiny, nor super nice guys like Sheth who left Korea in a few weeks. But dedicated and skilled players like HuK and Major. IdrA received the same shit from the community when he first went to Korea for Broodwar, look at his fanbase now. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:07 kakaman wrote: https://twitter.com/#!/ssidaglez/status/116429295668310016 Major not joining the team, just practicing with them. This would be a smart choice on both sides, if anything happens and i am sorry but it's proven before the chance is very likely then it's easy to part ways without contract drama's. I hope for you Artosis that he becomes what you believe he will be, but your not a sage and if he keeps ruining things it's going to get to your reputation eventualy. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:55 Clbull wrote: I think they'll ask him to join eventually, based on these facts:
truth is: - TSL lost 2 code B, 1 shaky code A players and one just-another-terran. No big deal - major is foreigner after all. korean talents > him - TSL already adds Symbol, Ultimate, KDH and Ragnarok. They pwnzed GSTL without much trouble the only good reason is that TSL wants some foreign exposure, just like IM | ||
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goswser
United States3519 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:01 eYeball wrote: I haven't taken the ELO system any serious either, I guess it's just who's hot in winnings right now or something. Because I can name many people that are better than MajOr, but I think his on a hotstreak now or something. Good for him also that this is kind of a trial instead of joining the team right away. It has nothing to do with a hotstreak, look at the tournaments, look at who hes beaten. The number of top players is far lower than many of the others with high ELO. Compare his last 50 games on ELO to Sen's. It's like comparing a preschool curriculum to a university curriculum. | ||
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terranghost
United States980 Posts
"That's Alot of Voidrays" | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote: Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him. | ||
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Striding Strider
United Kingdom787 Posts
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Mannified
Sweden27 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:09 Oktyabr wrote: TSL losing Fruitdealer and Tester was probably the best thing that has ever happened to them, minus the drama. If they really, really need a larger roster, they could always recruit their own local talent (truck tons of them lying around), and they come without a language barrier. No disrespect to MajOr, but until he actually achieves something in at least Code A, TSL doesn't really have an incentive to recruit him. Practice partner, sure. Member? Too tough to call.They don't have much cash lying around anyway. What if they needed a foreigner that, with clide's help will win tournaments outside korea. Ever thinked of that? | ||
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everytimee
United States122 Posts
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Kroml
Turkey308 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote: No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him. I totally agree with you. Also he looks too shy and closed for a person who is so arrogant, I started to doubt his social skills after watching the video. I think he should be careful and should try hard to be well with others, TSL House is not any regular battle.net channel. | ||
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Warpath
Canada1242 Posts
This is what he has been aiming for, so let's see what he does with it now. | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:27 Mannified wrote: What if they needed a foreigner that, with clide's help will win tournaments outside korea. Ever thinked of that? They couldn't even afford to fly their own players out. You strongly believe that MajOr, totally unproven in the Korean scene, would be a better investment to send out of Korea as compared to aLive, Clide, JYP or Revival? Like I said, him being a practice partner makes sense on many levels. As a member, not so much. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote: Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks Hahaha, I can certainly agree with this. People care more about their drama than actual skill. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
So happy they got rid the 2 troublemakers - FD and Tester. | ||
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starrrrlight
Denmark18 Posts
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
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ckw
United States1018 Posts
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:41 FabledIntegral wrote: Hmm... when I went to bed the title said "MajOr joins TSL." Now he's just practicing there, eh? I assume they are confident he will do well and invite him when he produces results... or when they feel comfortable. To be able to practice at a house should improve his play. Don't wanna jump the gun. | ||
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Jongl0
631 Posts
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
I do hope living abroad will help him grow up and turn over a new leaf. If he blows this opportunity well than ... he should move on and do something else with his life. | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:27 Mannified wrote: What if they needed a foreigner that, with clide's help will win tournaments outside korea. Ever thinked of that? I am pretty sure no one could have THINKED of that THINKED. User was warned for this post | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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MetalSlug
Germany443 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:06 carloselcoco wrote: I am pretty sure no one could have THINKED of that THINKED. contrary to popular belive not everyones native language is english, ever THINKED of that ? | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:02 thepuppyassassin wrote: I'm pretty sure that Major has the patience, self-restraint, and discipline of a 3 year old.. You can't live with someone like that. Watch.. once homesickness and the cramped living conditions start to chip away at him.. there's gonna be an international incident.. and I'm not exaggerating. Community Headline "Major slaps TSL coach" It's probably going to be the other way around. On September 21 2011 23:29 Mr Showtime wrote: Artosis has noted that he sees a lot of his old self in majOr, and that's probably why he's willing to do so much. Especially since he is such a talented player, and he is only getting in his own way. Hahah Artosis is (was?) pretty BM too. Didn't he throw a fit about a TL Open? I don't blame him for that one though. | ||
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Vinx
Canada259 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:08 thepuppyassassin wrote: His past behavior suggests.... hell yeah! 100% true, took my Delorian a few months ahead, Major is now banned from Korea. | ||
Misanthrope
United States924 Posts
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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Merany
France890 Posts
Congratulations and good luck in Korea! | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
Get to code A soon major! | ||
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DeWyze
Sweden25 Posts
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merlin101
Switzerland194 Posts
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:11 Arceus wrote: truth is: - TSL lost 2 code B, 1 shaky code A players and one just-another-terran. No big deal - major is foreigner after all. korean talents > him - TSL already adds Symbol, Ultimate, KDH and Ragnarok. They pwnzed GSTL without much trouble the only good reason is that TSL wants some foreign exposure, just like IM Sure, now 2 of them are Code B, one is a "shaky" code A player and "just another terran" but when Fruitdealer, Rain, and Trickster left they were all STILL code S. | ||
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:58 DeWyze wrote: why was he worried about him being chubby? lol He'd eat all the food. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:58 DeWyze wrote: why was he worried about him being chubby? lol I think he was trying to say that Juan looked like a social retard. Well, he kinda does... but he's so damn good at SC2 though. That's why coach Lee was referring to how Juan smiling assuaged his fears a little - that perhaps he will get along. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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aepal
Netherlands123 Posts
With practice like that he should become even better, cant wait to see him owning up the Koreans from Korea :D | ||
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aepal
Netherlands123 Posts
The guy practiced so hard and is no doubt one of the best foreigners out there, he is EG/TL material ''skillwise'' but he never got a break like that. It's like throwing Messi or Christiano Ronaldo in a 2nd league poor ass team that didn't do shit for him. I think they would make a fuss as well. The guy has ambition and works like a horse to become the best, he only deserves the best. Just my 2 cents. I don't know any details. I just know that someone that is that good, deserves a place like that and i love Artosis for it. | ||
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Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:58 DeWyze wrote: why was he worried about him being chubby? lol That the way it's in Korea. | ||
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Kiwiandapple
Belgium240 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:04 aepal wrote: This guy is such a beast, he deserves to be on one of the best teams of the world. With practice like that he should become even better, cant wait to see him owning up the Koreans from Korea :D Why does he deserve that after his team hopping and BM? He deserves nothing. | ||
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aepal
Netherlands123 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:16 IPA wrote: Why does he deserve that after his team hopping and BM? He deserves nothing. There a ton of progamers that are BM don't get me started, and like i said, he deserves a team that supports him the fullest just because he has skill. Read my other references and you might get a picture. But like i said, i don't know any details, i don't know if he ever team hopped when he was in a highly supportive team like TSL. I guess we will wait and see. | ||
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Jaxtyk
United States600 Posts
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Kamikiri
United States1319 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:58 DeWyze wrote: why was he worried about him being chubby? lol Maybe hes scared of big people who are a little chubby than heard that Major was pretty BM and didnt want him to beat up everybody in the house if an altercation happened. Coach Lee is pretty small after all, although someone like Major doesnt look like the type of guy who would be really BM or mean online or offline, he looks and sounds like a sweet fella. | ||
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Namu
United States826 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:16 IPA wrote: Why does he deserve that after his team hopping and BM? He deserves nothing. hopefully he can prove us wrong though. would be great to see a non korean terran do well in gsl.. jinro's still struggling and thorzain seems like he won't be back in korea any time soon.. | ||
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socommaster123
United States578 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:16 IPA wrote: Why does he deserve that after his team hopping and BM? He deserves nothing. How does being BM make someone deserve nothing? major is very talented and deserves to showcase his talents, so what if he is a douche I dont watch SC2 to see the nice guys always finish last. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:16 IPA wrote: Why does he deserve that after his team hopping and BM? He deserves nothing. no one questions naniwa's team hoping and BM because he's 'popular' i cant believe we will need to have this discussion time and time again. 90% of his team hopping was done in BW when the western scene was little more than a kids club, everyone knew he was too good for them yet because of the way sc1 was he couldnt get to korea. his BM has been no more than naniwa's, idras, hell even people like ret (nice guys) call people retards on their stream. but theres no hate band wagon against ret so people just let it slide, because its not a big deal. | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote: No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him. This is what people thought about idrA too in Broodwar, when he went to Korea to be a B-teamer on CJ entus and disappear into obscurity...only to come back in sc2 with much greater community support and the skills of a champion (not the mindset yet) | ||
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:53 turdburgler wrote: no one questions naniwa's team hoping and BM because he's 'popular' i cant believe we will need to have this discussion time and time again. 90% of his team hopping was done in BW when the western scene was little more than a kids club, everyone knew he was too good for them yet because of the way sc1 was he couldnt get to korea. his BM has been no more than naniwa's, idras, hell even people like ret (nice guys) call people retards on their stream. but theres no hate band wagon against ret so people just let it slide, because its not a big deal. Naniwa did a incredible turn around since last year when he was banned from ESL tournaments, I see no reason for bashing him atm.This is not Juan's case, he is still a immature BM player just like IdrA. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44250 Posts
For Artosis's sake, I hope Juan really shines. | ||
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DarkRise
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BrodiaQ
United States892 Posts
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JEEPFiretruck
Australia106 Posts
On September 22 2011 03:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Cool video For Artosis's sake, I hope Juan really shines. exactly what i'm thinking.. I hope Juan appreciates artosis' effort to get him there | ||
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
I'm sure Juan will become better in Korea , best of luck! | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
Naniwa was pretty BM and hopped on different teams like MajOr, but he changed and is nothing like the person he was before. Besides attitude and personality, he is no longer the 1 base all in player that people knew him for. IdrA maybe be considered an asshole online, but in real life, he is pretty chill and a cool guy. If that wasn't the case, then why do other progamers hang around and talk to him as if they are friends? Because they are. Look at all the shit talking that IdrA said about HuK, but when it comes to a LAN tournament environment, they are seen to be buddy buddy (I.E. picture of HuK massaging IdrA"s back and IdrA with a huge smile). As you can see, the community only hates on Juan because of his attitude and how uncooperative he was in past teams. There is no denying that he is a strong player and one of the best in NA, but many of us are still shocked to see how many chances he was given. | ||
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vict1019
United States401 Posts
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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hahaimhenry
Canada368 Posts
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. | ||
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:54 nath wrote: This is what people thought about idrA too in Broodwar, when he went to Korea to be a B-teamer on CJ entus and disappear into obscurity...only to come back in sc2 with much greater community support and the skills of a champion (not the mindset yet) He didn't disappear into obscurity, he used the skills he gained in korea to win 7 tournaments and get 2 more top 4 finishes in 2009. For the record, there were only 12 foreigner tournaments that year. | ||
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TheChostoProject
Mexico96 Posts
Just like Idra said, the only thing that should matter is skill and how good you are at the game, not personality. (Though i love Major and rockstar's attitude). | ||
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Adventurekid
Sweden505 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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ForeverChobo
United Kingdom5 Posts
Best of luck to Major! | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On September 22 2011 03:48 Cassel_Castle wrote: He didn't disappear into obscurity, he used the skills he gained in korea to win 7 tournaments and get 2 more top 4 finishes in 2009. For the record, there were only 12 foreigner tournaments that year. there was a long period of time where he still didn't win foreigner tournaments even after being in korea for a year+ and everyone expected him to. | ||
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babo213
United States266 Posts
On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote: i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. | ||
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Klyberess
Sweden345 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote: If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. | ||
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babo213
United States266 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote: Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. You don't find it an issue if someone doesn't mature despite being around an environment where they know they have to be more mature than they are? | ||
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Like a Boss
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
GL MajOr | ||
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TheChostoProject
Mexico96 Posts
On February 31 2012 04:18 babo213 wrote: You don't find it an issue if someone doesn't mature despite being around an environment where they know they have to be more mature than they are? BM != immaturity. Some people are just way more straighforward and not afraid to speak their mind, and yes, they insult and shit. Being mature is a whole different thing. | ||
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Hodgy
United States64 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote: Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation. | ||
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MenSol[ZerO]
Canada1134 Posts
more foreigners need to do the same before we fall behind | ||
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babo213
United States266 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:22 TheChostoProject wrote: BM != immaturity. Some people are just way more straighforward and not afraid to speak their mind, and yes, they insult and shit. Being mature is a whole different thing. If it was just being BM I doubt the community would be so divided on him. | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote: If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live? | ||
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Enervate
United States1769 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote: Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation. No, it isn't a decision rofl. Maturity is the physiological and intellectual development of body and mind. It does not take the same amount of time for everyone, but you can't just wake up and "choose" to be mature one day. Edit: For reference, the prefrontal cortex continues to develop until the age of 25 in many cases. The prefrontal cortex is also key in the decision-making process. | ||
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ArizonaBay
United States28 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:34 Enervate wrote: No, it isn't a decision rofl. Maturity is the physiological and intellectual development of body and mind. It does not take the same amount of time for everyone, but you can't just wake up and "choose" to be mature one day. Maturity is a bunch of chemical reactions really... so is the "decision" you speak of. Nonetheless, hopefully a regimented atmosphere will help major straighten up. | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote: Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation. No it's not, maturity comes from experience, more so when it hits you hard.. I really don't know why I am wasting my time countering the wisdom of some 12 year old.. I better stop. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:22 TheChostoProject wrote: BM != immaturity. Some people are just way more straighforward and not afraid to speak their mind, and yes, they insult and shit. Being mature is a whole different thing. And Major is not it. It's not even his bm that has people call him immature and childish, it's his overall behaviour. Being bm and easily agitated is just part of it. - Lying to his own team because he did not dare to own up to his fault is a sign of immaturity. - Lying repeatedly to a tournament organiser about his identity in order to cheat his way into a tournament he had no business participating in is a sign of immaturity. - Not being able to spellcheck his official statement on being dismissed from his team is unprofessional (which, in turn, is a sign of immaturity). - Hopping from team to team, abusing their goodwill, disregarding agreements and signed contracts is a sign of immaturity. The list goes on. If you are honestly arguing that major is not immature after everything he has done in his entire BW and SC2 career... I honestly don't know what to tell you. I personally wouldn't have given him another chance after seeing him fucking up again and again and again. The train for a successful career with a non-Korean team has probably passed already. These next months in Korea are his last chance to do a complete 180° and clean up his act. That is, if he really wants to have any chance of becoming a professional SC2 gamer. | ||
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote: No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him. Well said. | ||
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Axor
Mexico2 Posts
. Hi from Jalisco brother! :D Go MajOr! | ||
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RusHXceL
United States1004 Posts
https://twitter.com/#!/ssidaglez/status/116429295668310016 He did not JOIN TSL. | ||
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fer
Canada375 Posts
Juan's been moving only forward despite all the hate and predictions of this community, and he'll only continue to do so. Go Juan. | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:57 RusHXceL wrote: OP is wrong. https://twitter.com/#!/ssidaglez/status/116429295668310016 He did not JOIN TSL. It has been mentionned like some hours ago | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:34 s4life wrote: Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live? By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous. | ||
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote: By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous. when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote: Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation. actually its been proven that adolescent brain chemistry makes it more difficult to be rational, try again. On September 22 2011 04:09 nath wrote: there was a long period of time where he still didn't win foreigner tournaments even after being in korea for a year+ and everyone expected him to. so what you're saying is people who hadnt been to korea, let alone lived in a pro house, decided how long it takes for the training to take effect k | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Kinda hard to have that happen (or root for him) if your always switching teams, being involved in drama, and causing problems. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:20 turdburgler wrote: when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story No, they do not. This is obvious, and it was never claimed otherwise. Your point? | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:23 Dfgj wrote: No, they do not. This is obvious, and it was never claimed otherwise. Your point? you're point is that 18 year olds are trusted to use deadly force my point is that they arent im sure you can find an example of an active serviceman who's only 18, but they have probably been in some kind of army system for 3+ years to get there. this magical line of turning 18 and actually like an old man isnt fair on people. if you think 18 is a mature age i would argue that you dont know many 18 year olds | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:24 turdburgler wrote: you're point is that 18 year olds are trusted to use deadly force my point is that they arent You are factually incorrect in this matter, and your post didn't make that point at all - unless you're implying you wouldn't handle a gun until you'd been in basic for a year. If you assume this, please see the start of my post again. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:26 Dfgj wrote: You are factually incorrect in this matter, and your post didn't make that point at all - unless you're implying you wouldn't handle a gun until you'd been in basic for a year. If you assume this, please see the start of my post again. boot camp is completely different to 'real world'. this situation is grow up or get out, and many many people do get out, showing that not everyone is picture perfect at 18 | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:26 turdburgler wrote: boot camp is completely different to 'real world'. this situation is grow up or get out, and many many people do get out, showing that not everyone is picture perfect at 18 Basic here does not have an 'out', barring medical reasoning or confinement to detention barracks, so again, off with the facts. The important point you've brought up, however, is that people grow up - but why limit this to this situation? We could say the same - not everyone is picture perfect at 14/15 when they enter high school, but should be moreso at the end. Unless you're arguing that people live in isolation tanks until the age of 18, where they begin to mature, I don't think your point stands. 18 year olds should be, and are, trusted to function as adults. Using age as an excuse at that point is silly. | ||
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SpeedSloth
United States9 Posts
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:31 Dfgj wrote: Basic here does not have an 'out', barring medical reasoning or confinement to detention barracks, so again, off with the facts. The important point you've brought up, however, is that people grow up - but why limit this to this situation? We could say the same - not everyone is picture perfect at 14/15 when they enter high school, but should be moreso at the end. Unless you're arguing that people live in isolation tanks until the age of 18, where they begin to mature, I don't think your point stands. 18 year olds should be, and are, trusted to function as adults. Using age as an excuse at that point is silly. Most men do not reach maturity until their late 20s.. I am not talking about something as silly as holding a gun -- for which a half-assed training for a period of time is enough -- I am talking about becoming a person who knows himself well and sees and talks with others with respect and tolerance, only life experiences will teach you that.. at 18, most kids are really very stupid. | ||
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MagicGunner
United States78 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:41 s4life wrote: Most men do not reach maturity until their late 20s.. I am not talking about something as silly as holding a gun -- for which a half-assed training for a period of time is enough -- I am talking about becoming a person who knows himself well and sees and talks with others with respect and tolerance, only life experiences will teach you that.. at 18, most kids are really very stupid. (Replying to the entire quote train) I'm sure he will grow up eventually because he does have room to mature. However, keep in mind that he is also a professional which I think is the key difference between a normal 18 year old and somebody in his position. If he joins a team, he represents that team and if he acts foolishly it looks bad professionally. Also if he goofs off and/or goes off on another true BM streak, it will look bad on both himself AND Artosis who, from what I've seen, has helped him immensely. (Artosis is a gentleman and a scholar). That being said I again wish him the best, he is very privileged to be entrusted with a good environment and people who support him. Good luck to you Juan. | ||
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SteelMonkey
United States64 Posts
18 year olds should be, and are, trusted to function as adults. Using age as an excuse at that point is silly. Maybe they should be, but most 18 year olds do not function like adults. Hell most 23-24 year olds do not. Go to a college for a week and you will see how stupid we all are. I don't think you just magically mature at a certain age. From my experience I have noticed that a lot of depends on a person's background and situation growing up. I know people who at 16 were working 60 hour weeks trying to survive on their own....and this is the kind of thing that made them "mature". People who have a cushy life growing up tend to take longer. Just my thoughts, and I could be wrong. | ||
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:24 turdburgler wrote: you're point is that 18 year olds are trusted to use deadly force my point is that they arent im sure you can find an example of an active serviceman who's only 18, but they have probably been in some kind of army system for 3+ years to get there. this magical line of turning 18 and actually like an old man isnt fair on people. if you think 18 is a mature age i would argue that you dont know many 18 year olds My granda lied about his age and joined the Royal Navy in 1938 when he was 15. Not that I agree/disagree with the retarded argument. But your strong opinions aren't facts. Fact - Maj0r has been bm. Fact - I couldn't give a monkeys. Fact - You will all watch him play, and look at the sponsors on his shirt. Fact - He will get signed to a pro team. Also ♥ Maj0r, good luck in Korea. | ||
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DiamondTear
Finland165 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:20 turdburgler wrote: when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story In less than two weeks. | ||
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
A horse is a bad person, a kid is a goat, and Major has a genius mind capable of understanding complex interactions and strategies. Normally, you don't associate that with 'poor mentality'. GL in korea Major! | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote: By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous. The army recruits pretty much anybody, especially kids not knowing what they want to do with their lives. They even go for kids that are somewhat of misfits that were acting up in high school. I don't know how old you are but being 18 is still considered young, a lot of people will look back at that age and remember some of the 'stupid' stuff that they had done. | ||
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Canada1278 Posts
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United States329 Posts
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United States1009 Posts
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On September 22 2011 06:55 aycheff wrote: Maybe someone can fill me in cause I've obviously missed something, but what has Major done that has got him such a negative rep among some people? Most recently? I guess lied directly to the tournament director and smurfed to get into a regional based tournament. | ||
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TERRANLOL
United States626 Posts
On September 22 2011 06:55 aycheff wrote: Maybe someone can fill me in cause I've obviously missed something, but what has Major done that has got him such a negative rep among some people? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=262397 Read Statement #2 from sixjax | ||
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Canada210 Posts
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United States1292 Posts
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pewpew444
United States121 Posts
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Beef Noodles
United States937 Posts
"Having fun so far Juan?" "Yeah, I'm having fun." "Yeah?" "Yeah." | ||
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TERRANLOL
United States626 Posts
On September 22 2011 07:36 Beef Noodles wrote: I know Major is not dumb, but at 2:49 that exchange sounded straight out of Rainman. "Having fun so far Juan?" "Yeah, I'm having fun." "Yeah?" "Yeah." His native language isn't English. | ||
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Beef Noodles
United States937 Posts
I know. I'm not making fun of him. It was just really funny. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:24 turdburgler wrote: you're point is that 18 year olds are trusted to use deadly force my point is that they arent im sure you can find an example of an active serviceman who's only 18, but they have probably been in some kind of army system for 3+ years to get there. this magical line of turning 18 and actually like an old man isnt fair on people. if you think 18 is a mature age i would argue that you dont know many 18 year olds Who cares about this whole army issue? Were talking about a professional player being mature in a professional setting, it has nothing to do with when someone gets to hold a loaded gun. Why do people make excuses for majors behavior? Leenock is 16/17 and he doesnt cause this much trouble for his managers. There are tons of young professional SC2 players and they arent total assholes even though "theyre still just kids". Its like people are setting Major as the standard for how kids should act. Stop making excuses for his immaturity | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:20 turdburgler wrote: when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story actually its been proven that adolescent brain chemistry makes it more difficult to be rational, try again. so what you're saying is people who hadnt been to korea, let alone lived in a pro house, decided how long it takes for the training to take effect k i really think you're simply pulling stuff slightly out of context for yourself. majOr has done some uncool stuff leading up til' now. one example would be, 'mouthing off' to a SEA tournament admin to his heart's content. i think a lot of people can put this into their own personal perspective, and say that 9 times out of 10, they would not have done the same in any way----perhaps this is where most people float that maturity word. and yeah, there are people everywhere and at juan's age who have crazy expectations of them, and for themselves. it's not that bad to compare that to what majOr's done in the limelight, because this -is- his job on another note, i don't remember anywhere where he apologized for anything [that was considered unprofessional of him]. | ||
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Sweden376 Posts
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
On September 22 2011 04:57 RusHXceL wrote: OP is wrong. https://twitter.com/#!/ssidaglez/status/116429295668310016 He did not JOIN TSL. Oo..... oh oh..... well good. I don't think TSL would've appreciated a guy like him | ||
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Canada210 Posts
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Magorical
Australia23 Posts
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On September 22 2011 07:32 pewpew444 wrote: The first two players (Ret and Tyler) that Artosis got to come out to Korea turned out to be great. Lets hope that MajOr continues this trend. I also feel that the korean maturity and politeness will rub off on Juan and he hopefully mature (I don't care about bm). Tyler and Ret came over after major accomplishments. Ret went over after winning Dreamhack and Tyler went after his great WCG USA runs. Seems like Major finally has opportunity after winning the Latin America's Blizzcon Invitational. Yes Juan has a very bad past with tournys and is incredibly bm. However, he is now in the position he has dreamed about for years, training and practicing in Korea. I do believe out of his own self-interest that he will succeed, improve and mature as a person and player. Best of luck to you Juan, don't let Artosis down for sticking up for you all these years. | ||
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CatNzHat
United States1599 Posts
Asking just cuz the title used to say MajOr joins TSL or something like that, and doesn't anymore. Edit: srry, found my answer | ||
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Rorra
Australia1066 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:02 thepuppyassassin wrote: I'm pretty sure that Major has the patience, self-restraint, and discipline of a 3 year old.. You can't live with someone like that. Watch.. once homesickness and the cramped living conditions start to chip away at him.. there's gonna be an international incident.. and I'm not exaggerating. Community Headline "Major slaps TSL coach" Kid should do some research. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote: By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous. ^Prolly not 18 yet. | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:12 radiantshadow92 wrote: if anything his past behaviors show he just wants to play -.- As long as you pay him more than he's worth. | ||
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Germany281 Posts
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
He couldn't possibly fuck it up though, Artosis has given him everything he's ever wanted effectively. Please Juan, for the sake of your fans, stay on the straight and narrow from now on. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 22 2011 07:49 nanaoei wrote: i really think you're simply pulling stuff slightly out of context for yourself. majOr has done some uncool stuff leading up til' now. one example would be, 'mouthing off' to a SEA tournament admin to his heart's content. i think a lot of people can put this into their own personal perspective, and say that 9 times out of 10, they would not have done the same in any way----perhaps this is where most people float that maturity word. and yeah, there are people everywhere and at juan's age who have crazy expectations of them, and for themselves. it's not that bad to compare that to what majOr's done in the limelight, because this -is- his job on another note, i don't remember anywhere where he apologized for anything [that was considered unprofessional of him]. he brought up a legit example of the sea tourneys rules actually making no sense, and them bending over to get certain famous players in to boost their viewership, so he thought they didnt take the sea only rule seriously. like ive said 100 times, people are just being unfairly harsh on him where other players would be forgiven. but because its already been decided hes a bad guy, people cling to the hate and stack it up making him look like a bad guy, when hes no worse than others who are forgiven and forgotten instantly. | ||
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
On September 22 2011 07:49 nanaoei wrote: i really think you're simply pulling stuff slightly out of context for yourself. majOr has done some uncool stuff leading up til' now. one example would be, 'mouthing off' to a SEA tournament admin to his heart's content. i think a lot of people can put this into their own personal perspective, and say that 9 times out of 10, they would not have done the same in any way----perhaps this is where most people float that maturity word. and yeah, there are people everywhere and at juan's age who have crazy expectations of them, and for themselves. it's not that bad to compare that to what majOr's done in the limelight, because this -is- his job on another note, i don't remember anywhere where he apologized for anything [that was considered unprofessional of him]. and idra and destiny does tons of bm actions to people and everyone loves them. slamming headsets and calling people derogatory names. 15k viewers they love bm. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On September 22 2011 21:32 momonami5 wrote: and idra and destiny does tons of bm actions to people and everyone loves them. slamming headsets and calling people derogatory names. 15k viewers they love bm. yeah but they dont cheat in official tournaments. they dont BM the people hosting those events after being caught. they dont cause trouble to the people around them. I highly doubt Idra treats the EG clan badly. In fact, Ive heard that their BM reputation is only a product of their in-game reactions to losses and that theyre actually really nice in real life. Majors immaturity extends outside to the real world I also wouldnt say everyone loves them either. a lot of people hate on Idra and Destiny for those two things. | ||
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
On September 22 2011 21:35 Supamang wrote: yeah but they dont cheat in official tournaments. they dont BM the people hosting those events after being caught. they dont cause trouble to the people around them. I highly doubt Idra treats the EG clan badly. In fact, Ive heard that their BM reputation is only a product of their in-game reactions to losses and that theyre actually really nice in real life. Majors immaturity extends outside to the real world I also wouldnt say everyone loves them either. a lot of people hate on Idra and Destiny for those two things. your one of those types that just like to try and hurt and bring people down because you yourself is not as successful as you want to be, so you find it better to try an dbring others down. Reminds of ppl who watch E entertainment and read tabloids and try to bash celebs. Major is going to tsl, and he probably gonna get good results. wether you like it or not you contine on your sharade and try to tear major down but your not gonna get anything done. Your just wasting your own life away. User was warned for this post | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On September 22 2011 22:35 momonami5 wrote: this thread is getting fired up... Artosis has cast the die. Let it roll and settle. Then history will be written. That is all.your one of those types that just like to try and hurt and bring people down because you yourself is not as successful as you want to be, so you find it better to try an dbring others down. Reminds of ppl who watch E entertainment and read tabloids and try to bash celebs. Major is going to tsl, and he probably gonna get good results. wether you like it or not you contine on your sharade and try to tear major down but your not gonna get anything done. Your just wasting your own life away. + Show Spoiler + *You're *you yourself are not *whether *continue *charade *you're (again) | ||
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United States16 Posts
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nanaoei
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all i was pretty much saying, is that as fan of the game and of so many of the pro. players, whatever i've read of majOr has given me the yellow flag of 'uncool'. that's pretty much it. equally so, i continue reading about idra, and of destiny to a greater or lesser extent. it might be ridiculous to say this, but since what.... 80%+ of us don't know any of those players on a personal basis, nothing is entirely accurate. for a fan like me, everything you read about a player in community news is pretty much all you get. d.apollo posts about sixjax releasing majOr, and..... what are you supposed to think ? 'uncool' in that case, is euphemism for 'pretty damn bad'. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
Artosis' relationship with MajOr is like Qui-Gon / Obi-wan with Anakin Skywalker. Huge potential. But clearly something wrong with him. | ||
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LeadingProgamer
Japan57 Posts
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Diglett
600 Posts
2 days later you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to destroy complexity, not join them!! 2 days later you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to ....etc | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On September 23 2011 03:39 QTIP. wrote: Can't resist: Artosis' relationship with MajOr is like Qui-Gon / Obi-wan with Anakin Skywalker. Huge potential. But clearly something wrong with him. No legs? (mind would be blown) | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On September 23 2011 06:48 Diglett wrote: you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to destroy EG, not join them!! 2 days later you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to destroy complexity, not join them!! 2 days later you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to ....etc This can only end one way. Major has to duel with Artosis on a foreign planet and lose, getting thrown into a lava river in the process. He has to get all his limbs burned off. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
I lol'd. I agree with both. 18 year olds who go through boot camp and everything else that comes after who find themselves on the field of battle... not kids. Every other 18 year old in the world = kid. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On September 22 2011 21:23 turdburgler wrote: he brought up a legit example of the sea tourneys rules actually making no sense, and them bending over to get certain famous players in to boost their viewership, so he thought they didnt take the sea only rule seriously. like ive said 100 times, people are just being unfairly harsh on him where other players would be forgiven. but because its already been decided hes a bad guy, people cling to the hate and stack it up making him look like a bad guy, when hes no worse than others who are forgiven and forgotten instantly. He asked the organizers if he could enter the tournament. They said no. He still registered anyway. They saw it and clearly told him he isn't eligible. He then pretended to be somebody else and played in the tournament. When he was caught he just his action by saying "cuz ur being a fag" and blamed the organizers for making bad rules. Whether these rules are bad is up to debate, but do realize that the organizers were running that entire tournament out of their own pocket to improve the quality of SEA pro scene. It is really up to them what to do with their own money. None of all this "he thought they didnt take the sea only rule seriously". He pretended to be someone else who is a SEA resident because he clearly understood that he wasn't supposed to play in it. What other players were just "forgiven and forgotten instantly" after pulling a stunt like this? | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On September 22 2011 22:35 momonami5 wrote: your one of those types that just like to try and hurt and bring people down because you yourself is not as successful as you want to be, so you find it better to try an dbring others down. Reminds of ppl who watch E entertainment and read tabloids and try to bash celebs. Major is going to tsl, and he probably gonna get good results. wether you like it or not you contine on your sharade and try to tear major down but your not gonna get anything done. Your just wasting your own life away. Wow, internet psychologist here. Lol, I cant believe you love Major so much that you try to psychoanalyze someone based on 1 post on an internet forum. Let me tell you something about myself that actually is true. I absolutely HATE assholes, especially the ones who feel entitled. Major is a great player, but from everything ive heard (and I have yet to hear those claims disputed) he is a completely immature asshole. Not only does he piss off the people around him by being a dick, he thinks that he can get away with it merely because hes great at SC2. There is never an excuse for being an ass, I dont care how famous, rich, or good at something you are. | ||
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P0ckets
United States430 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On September 23 2011 08:39 P0ckets wrote: Major is still being named as part of TSL all over the US streams. It is pretty fun if he isn't part of it cause most viewers would think so. Are you saying that he is just practicing with the team and no officially a member of TSL? I haven't checked this thread in a few days and I did notice that that the thread title changed to "major practices in the TSL house." The OP still says that he is a member of TSL? A little confused is Major a part of the team or just practicing there? | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
i'm not sure how many members there are in TSL now, but it seems their roster is pretty full. work hard all around | ||
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Germany710 Posts
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RusHXceL
United States1004 Posts
HE IS NOT on the team. | ||
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garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
I’ve had a chance to talk with TSL’s coach Lee regarding Major. Major, as far as they are concerned, is a part of the team — as they eat, practice, and live together, they are a team. However, Major has not signed a contract with TSL, and currently TSL has no plans on binding him to TSL. Major will be at TSL house until Blizzcon this October. So will he return to Korea after blizzcon? | ||
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
So your saying that major is going to try to kill artosis and artosis is going to cut majors legs off? Needs to be streamed either way. Major and Artosis fighting to the death. but back in topic. It looks like major is on the team but in law. He can join another team no problesm cause TSL didn't contract him. Sounds like this won't last long. I don't see him going back after blizzcon tbh. | ||
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Medrea
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ETisME
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On September 22 2011 21:23 turdburgler wrote: he brought up a legit example of the sea tourneys rules actually making no sense, and them bending over to get certain famous players in to boost their viewership, so he thought they didnt take the sea only rule seriously. like ive said 100 times, people are just being unfairly harsh on him where other players would be forgiven. but because its already been decided hes a bad guy, people cling to the hate and stack it up making him look like a bad guy, when hes no worse than others who are forgiven and forgotten instantly. he didn't bring up a legit example at all, he smurfed it after knowing he can't join it, specifically asking the organizers. Does it matter if the rules were even fair or not? No, the organiser set the rules, if he can't join, he can't. unfairly harsh? in his defence, he got exposed by the very same person that lend him his account. He was told NOT to use it to join this tournament which he did. what's next? he didn't take the acc lender person seriously? | ||
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Sokalo
United States375 Posts
On September 24 2011 12:26 RusHXceL wrote: http://whitecosmos.tumblr.com/post/10582668459/update-on-major-tsl-situation HE IS NOT on the team. I'm not sure how to interpret that beyond TSL giving him a trail run to see how this pans out. Didn't TSL release their player salaries in the past and they were all pretty substantial? I wouldn't see them throwing 30k and a one year commitment to a question mark like Major, nor would I understand them bringing him all the way to Korea and putting up his room and board if they didn't have any interest in him. I'm not sure how the money works for these team houses though(HuK still staying with oGs?), so I could be completely wrong. | ||
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ThisWillBEz
United States120 Posts
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wordd
Australia190 Posts
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
I can definitely see MajOr doing well at Blizzcon with all the practice he's getting there, though. | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
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Holykitty
Netherlands246 Posts
On September 23 2011 07:16 Sein wrote: He asked the organizers if he could enter the tournament. They said no. He still registered anyway. They saw it and clearly told him he isn't eligible. He then pretended to be somebody else and played in the tournament. When he was caught he just his action by saying "cuz ur being a fag" and blamed the organizers for making bad rules. Whether these rules are bad is up to debate, but do realize that the organizers were running that entire tournament out of their own pocket to improve the quality of SEA pro scene. It is really up to them what to do with their own money. None of all this "he thought they didnt take the sea only rule seriously". He pretended to be someone else who is a SEA resident because he clearly understood that he wasn't supposed to play in it. What other players were just "forgiven and forgotten instantly" after pulling a stunt like this? many people who have been caught cheating in sc1 have been allowed back into the community | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On September 26 2011 12:10 Holykitty wrote: many people who have been caught cheating in sc1 have been allowed back into the community Except he did this in SC2, not years ago in BW. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On September 26 2011 12:25 Zooper31 wrote: Except he did this in SC2, not years ago in BW. Why does that make a difference? | ||
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Holykitty
Netherlands246 Posts
On September 26 2011 12:25 Zooper31 wrote: Except he did this in SC2, not years ago in BW. oh so we can forget about his team hoping then? oh wait thats repeated 100 times a thread | ||
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
instead i see people talking about events from weeks ago x.x | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On September 26 2011 13:00 Let it Raine wrote: expected to see some new info on majors stay in tsl instead i see people talking about events from weeks ago x.x oh the irony ^^ inb4 inception irony | ||
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chocolatebunny
301 Posts
hopefully he performs well. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15665 Posts
Its reasonable to assume that someone MAY have changed a lot after a long period of time. It is not reasonable to assume that someone changed a lot after a short period of time. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On September 26 2011 12:57 Holykitty wrote: oh so we can forget about his team hoping then? oh wait thats repeated 100 times a thread Except he's done it in SC2 as well. Not as frequently as BW(he hit something like 7 teams in a week, iirc), granted. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
On September 26 2011 13:14 kazie wrote: artosis thinks he is a good guy. now we can all stop arguing No he thinks hes a good player. | ||
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TheBatman
United States209 Posts
Looking forward ot future episodes | ||
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CDMVR
United States92 Posts
I sincerely doubt you know what's going through Dan's mind. but thanks for letting the community know what you think his opinion is. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
On September 26 2011 16:19 Itallion wrote: I sincerely doubt you know what's going through Dan's mind. but thanks for letting the community know what you think his opinion is. I admit I was in a bad mood when I wrote that. Should have written it differently. To rephrase its been well known that the reason Artosis wants to send Major to Korea is not because he is a good person but because he is a good player. So in the end what kazie said doesn't matter if he thinks Major is a good person or not because that is not why Artosis tried so hard to get him to Korea all this time. Its because he thinks hes good regardless of all the troubles that follow with him. The whole reason for all the arguments in the thread is because of this. I will not claim to know what is going on in Artosis's mind and of all people he knows best that hes taking a big risk sending Major to Korea and vouching for him. | ||
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BushidoSnipr
United States910 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
On September 26 2011 12:25 Zooper31 wrote: Except he did this in SC2, not years ago in BW. years ago? Dimaga cheating in TSL2 was like a year ago | ||
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Joey Wheeler
Korea (North)276 Posts
he hopped a few teams he had a fight with an admin about some online SEA tourney then you regularly have pros like Spades talk bad and no one cares. You shouldn't care, so why would you for Major who's better than many people when it comes to manner. | ||
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DrakanSilva
Chile932 Posts
Their career will still grow and sometime they will change and become better players. That's all, deal with it if you think that SC2 is, or is becoming, a eSport. So then major ain't TSL_Major like IMFenix right ? | ||
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pbjsandwich
United States443 Posts
On September 27 2011 05:53 Joey Wheeler wrote: ok so he hopped a few teams he had a fight with an admin about some online SEA tourney then you regularly have pros like Spades talk bad and no one cares. You shouldn't care, so why would you for Major who's better than many people when it comes to manner. you really shouldn't try to be logical about all this people are just sippin on haterade and are sensitive as hell | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On September 27 2011 04:47 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I admit I was in a bad mood when I wrote that. Should have written it differently. To rephrase its been well known that the reason Artosis wants to send Major to Korea is not because he is a good person but because he is a good player. So in the end what kazie said doesn't matter if he thinks Major is a good person or not because that is not why Artosis tried so hard to get him to Korea all this time. Its because he thinks hes good regardless of all the troubles that follow with him. The whole reason for all the arguments in the thread is because of this. I will not claim to know what is going on in Artosis's mind and of all people he knows best that hes taking a big risk sending Major to Korea and vouching for him. I doubt he would go far for someone he didn't like | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On September 27 2011 04:47 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I admit I was in a bad mood when I wrote that. Should have written it differently. To rephrase its been well known that the reason Artosis wants to send Major to Korea is not because he is a good person but because he is a good player. So in the end what kazie said doesn't matter if he thinks Major is a good person or not because that is not why Artosis tried so hard to get him to Korea all this time. Its because he thinks hes good regardless of all the troubles that follow with him. The whole reason for all the arguments in the thread is because of this. I will not claim to know what is going on in Artosis's mind and of all people he knows best that hes taking a big risk sending Major to Korea and vouching for him. Artosis thinks Major resembles his younger , more immature self. He has said this multiple times. So Artosis probably thinks deep down Major is a nice guy ( aside from being a good player) | ||
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
On September 26 2011 12:10 Holykitty wrote: many people who have been caught cheating in sc1 have been allowed back into the community By that logic, we'll forgive him when sc3 comes out =] | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
WHAT?! That's some dedication right there. That's the reason he will beast up the scene. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On September 27 2011 05:53 Joey Wheeler wrote: ok so he hopped a few teams he had a fight with an admin about some online SEA tourney then you regularly have pros like Spades talk bad and no one cares. You shouldn't care, so why would you for Major who's better than many people when it comes to manner. Did you just put cheating a tournament when said before he was not allowed on the same lvl as talking bad? Really? | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On September 28 2011 20:07 snotboogie wrote: In the newest episode, Terran states he plays 45-60 games a day. WHAT?! That's some dedication right there. That's the reason he will beast up the scene. Well he's having trouble sleeping, he's gotta do something :D | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On September 28 2011 20:07 snotboogie wrote: In the newest episode, Terran states he plays 45-60 games a day. WHAT?! That's some dedication right there. That's the reason he will beast up the scene. Yes, this is why he's a good fit for Korean progaming. Forget all the other stupid bullshit in this thread really, cause he's young, practices as hard as any foreigner and has already shown great potential in the past. If i was to pick 2 foreigners for a Korean based team it would be him and Kolll (no longer active in SC2). They are the best fit simply... while a lot of the community liked players are not a good fit at all and will never settle in Korea. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On September 28 2011 20:07 snotboogie wrote: In the newest episode, Terran states he plays 45-60 games a day. WHAT?! That's some dedication right there. That's the reason he will beast up the scene. Yeah, its really impressive and I love the dedication, but... he needs to find a good sleeping schedule and need to get into a reasonably healthy rhythm.. otherwise he will burn out or worse, have health issues. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On September 28 2011 21:48 bokchoi wrote: Yeah, its really impressive and I love the dedication, but... he needs to find a good sleeping schedule and need to get into a reasonably healthy rhythm.. otherwise he will burn out or worse, have health issues. I don't think he's not sleeping deliberately, he's just having difficulty adjusting to a new surrounding. I'm sure he'll get a decent sleep schedule over time. | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On September 28 2011 21:47 infinity2k9 wrote: Yes, this is why he's a good fit for Korean progaming. Forget all the other stupid bullshit in this thread really, cause he's young, practices as hard as any foreigner and has already shown great potential in the past. If i was to pick 2 foreigners for a Korean based team it would be him and Kolll (no longer active in SC2). They are the best fit simply... while a lot of the community liked players are not a good fit at all and will never settle in Korea. I can agree that he is a perfect fit for the gaming environment in Korea. We know this is what he was looking for and it fits... It's just the fact he is socially retarded, which has held him back in the foreign scene. I think the language barrier will help since both him and his teammates will build rapport simply by learning each others languages and about each other. Hopefully this fits for both parties. I don't like the kid much obviously but I think he is gonna turn a lot of heads in a month or two. As long as he doesn't start acting like a goofball. | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
Can't believe how much Terran is practicing. And it's really impressive how many good things all of the other members of TSL have to say about him. | ||
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Niick
Australia426 Posts
On September 28 2011 22:19 Uncultured wrote: Wow. Every video I watch I'm become bigger and bigger fans of Coach Lee, Sang-Ho, Terran, And TSL in general. A really amazing team. Can't believe how much Terran is practicing. And it's really impressive how many good things all of the other members of TSL have to say about him. Yep, Terran actually looked really comfortable there, and I've seen a number of interviews with him where he just seems nervous and unhappy about current things. He seemed really relaxed and I wish him all the best there | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
On September 28 2011 22:19 Uncultured wrote: Wow. Every video I watch I'm become bigger and bigger fans of Coach Lee, Sang-Ho, Terran, And TSL in general. A really amazing team. watch the hyung joon becomes a progamer series. Coach Lee is a cool coach in that. Really showed he had more respect for the players and worked hard for them, compared to the other coach. Granted it was tv, but still. Coach Lee is awesome. | ||
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provrorsbarn
Sweden766 Posts
Seems like Major is taking this trip very seriously....nice to see | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
On September 28 2011 22:19 Uncultured wrote: Wow. Every video I watch I'm become bigger and bigger fans of Coach Lee, Sang-Ho, Terran, And TSL in general. A really amazing team. Can't believe how much Terran is practising. And it's really impressive how many good things all of the other members of TSL have to say about him. This. All of them seem like great guys to hang out with and learn from. Cool to hear Alive suggesting to Coach Lee that they should sign Juan. TSL is by far my favourite team. Hopefully Juan can stay a long time if/when he comes back from Blizzcon. Best of luck to them all, and thanks to Artosis for documenting this! :D | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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Sandermatt
Switzerland1365 Posts
You can see here at about 3 minutes. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
On September 29 2011 02:02 Torte de Lini wrote: Where do you see Episode 2? http://www.youtube.com/artosistv | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On September 29 2011 01:56 Sandermatt wrote: There is a girl in episode 2 of new path, does anybody know who she is? You can see here at about 3 minutes. Its a man? Just looks like a woman because of the hair, but look at the arms etc. Heres the link again for Episode 2: | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On September 29 2011 01:56 Sandermatt wrote: There is a girl in episode 2 of new path, does anybody know who she is? You can see here at about 3 minutes. at the computer, with the long hair? that's not a girl... | ||
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Brainling
United States660 Posts
Plus, he's in one of the best Korean pro-gamer environments he can be. Coach Lee said it himself: TSL is about fun and laughter, as much as it's about being a top pro. I think that's a good environment for Terran. Take it seriously, but not so seriously it consumes you. I think it was very telling when Coach Lee said in episode 2 he wanted Juan to get out more, he felt he was spending too much time in the house playing SC2. That's good life balance, and I think it's what Terran needs to succeed. Playing with top Koreans all day won't hurt either. | ||
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unoriginalname
England380 Posts
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Brainling
United States660 Posts
On September 29 2011 02:25 unoriginalname wrote: Does anybody else like TSL much more now all this drama is over and FruitDealer/Trickster have left? Whilst I'm sceptical about their chances in the GSTL with their limited roster, I'll certainly be rooting for them now that IM is out. Eh, they have Polt now, I wouldn't call their roster limited. It's not chalk full of big names, but that's not always bad in the GSTL. Especially since they are focusing so hard on the GSTL, as Coach Lee said, some have even sacrificed some individual tournaments to train harder for the GSTL. I think they have as good a shot as anyone else. | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
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merlin101
Switzerland194 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On September 29 2011 02:35 Brainling wrote: Eh, they have Polt now, I wouldn't call their roster limited. It's not chalk full of big names, but that's not always bad in the GSTL. Especially since they are focusing so hard on the GSTL, as Coach Lee said, some have even sacrificed some individual tournaments to train harder for the GSTL. I think they have as good a shot as anyone else. Polt can't play for TSL this season. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On September 29 2011 02:25 unoriginalname wrote: Does anybody else like TSL much more now all this drama is over and FruitDealer/Trickster have left? Whilst I'm sceptical about their chances in the GSTL with their limited roster, I'll certainly be rooting for them now that IM is out. I think they have a great chance at GSTL, keeping in mind FD and Trickster were never a vital part of their roster. TSL doesn't have any gods like Nestea or MVP, but they have one thing a lot of other teams lack in competitions - they are kings of preparing who to send out, and preparing players all around. That's in part what GSTL is all about, sending out the right players at the right time, especially when it's an epic Bo9 slugfest. IM hasn't been doing as well as people would expect because they can't just send out MVP and Nestea and hope for the best, it's a bit more complicated than that. Of course it doesn't help that they way underestimated some teams too and wanted their lower tier players to get "TV experience" >,< Anyway, TSL is of course a completely sick team atm in GSTL, and it's not because they have the best individual lineup in the world, it's because they make the best decisions. | ||
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Brainling
United States660 Posts
Oh, why not? I don't remember ever hearing that (not saying you're wrong, just commenting that I had never heard it). | ||
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Neelia
Germany599 Posts
On September 29 2011 03:05 Brainling wrote: Oh, why not? I don't remember ever hearing that (not saying you're wrong, just commenting that I had never heard it). Because he already played for Prime. If you switch teams mid season you can't play for the new team until next season. SC can't play for MVP either. | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
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g0G0RandOm
Switzerland80 Posts
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Papulatus
United States669 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On September 29 2011 03:45 g0G0RandOm wrote: he never left the house since he came in.... wtf That shows Major's respectable side, his dedication. | ||
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Artunit
Philippines399 Posts
On September 29 2011 02:21 Brainling wrote: I think having Artosis as a mentor and guide will help a lot of Terran's attitude issues. I have no doubt Artosis is keeping tabs on that kind of stuff, and will pull him aside for a heart to heart before anything gets out of control. Well Artosis is been mentoring him since SC:BW times and he haven't changed a bit. | ||
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:06 Grettin wrote: That shows Major's respectable side, his dedication. Good for him too, Terran has the mindset and I'm sure he can go far~ | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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sopas
509 Posts
On September 29 2011 03:45 g0G0RandOm wrote: he never left the house since he came in.... wtf a player that actually wants to go to korea for practice.. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:26 LoLAdriankat wrote: I'm sooo glad that everyone in TSL believes in Terran. He's going to go far, no doubt about it. Until he leaves TSL under shady circumstances in 1-4 months. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On September 29 2011 02:25 unoriginalname wrote: Does anybody else like TSL much more now all this drama is over and FruitDealer/Trickster have left? Whilst I'm sceptical about their chances in the GSTL with their limited roster, I'll certainly be rooting for them now that IM is out. Yep, TSL are quickly becoming my favourite team. Obviously Cliiiide is the best player of all time, and killer/sangho seems like such an awesome guy in these videos. He has probably the 2nd best English of all the pro gamers that ive heard after DRG. Coach Lee seems like such a nice person as well. They've been through quite a lot, lost many players, and are still undefeated in the gstl, a great effort with what really looks like a fairly limited roster. And Now they might give Major a chance as well. I love TSL! | ||
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Brainling
United States660 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:07 Artunit wrote: Well Artosis is been mentoring him since SC:BW times and he haven't changed a bit. You make it sound like this timeline spans the decade BW has been around, it doesn't. Terran didn't become a big SC1 player until very late in the game. Artosis himself explains this, how he wanted him over earlier, but SC2 hit and screwed up the plan. That was a year ago. Artosis has been mentoring the kid for maybe two years, and if you can't see the attitude change from the maphacker he used to be, to who he is now, you're not paying attention or you're bias. Having Artosis there, available, and over his shoulder has, and will, help any lingering attitude issues. Never forget, Artosis was known for some of the very same attitude issues Terran has. He got past them and grew up, and with Artosis' help, so will Juan. Now Artosis is considered one of the paragons of the scene. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
gl to major | ||
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Sukari
Australia183 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:16 Torte de Lini wrote: Good for him too, Terran has the mindset and I'm sure he can go far~ It's also nice to hear that he's taking onboard a lot of the advice given to him. Ps. good backing Artosis | ||
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Sokalo
United States375 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:16 Torte de Lini wrote: Good for him too, Terran has the mindset and I'm sure he can go far~ If I found myself in a foreign, non-english speaking country I wouldn't be too eager to leave the house either. | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:31 IPA wrote: Until he leaves TSL under shady circumstances in 1-4 months. he's found his dream. hes not even left the house. you should bring up this quote in a few months we will see where he is | ||
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Polemos
United States160 Posts
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MBH
Ireland796 Posts
On September 29 2011 03:45 g0G0RandOm wrote: he never left the house since he came in.... wtf It's a dangerous business, Juan, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to. | ||
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IMSmooth
United States679 Posts
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On October 02 2011 08:18 IMSmooth wrote: alive said that he said they should signmajor as a full TSL player? that means he isnt right now? They consider him a part of the tsl team(practises, eats and sleeps | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On October 02 2011 08:18 IMSmooth wrote: alive said that he said they should signmajor as a full TSL player? that means he isnt right now? its a technicality. TSL still doesn't have contracts with most players, and the term 'full tsl player' is loosely thrown around. technically, he's not on their roster. but he will be. he's going to stay there, improve and they will add him on. he's not going anywhere. artosis cleared this up on SotG "he is on the team, trust me..its just different the way the team is structured in korea" | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:28 sopas wrote: a player that actually wants to go to korea for practice.. heehee... he's just afraid if he leaves the house, he will wind up joining ST or something well no I think that with major (god im so clever) practice... he's gonna go far... seriously I believe that he has all this potential and especially in a regimented environment, it will help him develop according to a set structure | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On October 02 2011 08:22 nath wrote: its a technicality. TSL still doesn't have contracts with most players Source? I would have hought they contracted most of them after the Puma story. | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On October 02 2011 08:28 StarVe wrote: Source? I would have hought they contracted most of them after the Puma story. Lee said he would. but other than star players they havent afaik, because in korea honor means more. remember how killer and (was it clide? or someone else) gave back part of their salary to the team out of no obligation. thats how things work. | ||
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Thrill
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On October 02 2011 08:34 Thrill wrote: Major is a far better nick than 'terran'. I'm impressed by the dedication shown so far though for sure. Hoping for this to develop into a success story. Naniwa and Major are the Rock Lee's of SC2. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/GosI(Terran) He's sticking with Terran. | ||
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Gatored
United States679 Posts
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
and btw Thank you so much Artosis for all you do!<3 | ||
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RoboBob
United States798 Posts
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:31 IPA wrote: Until he leaves TSL under shady circumstances in 1-4 months. way to support. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:57 SenorChang wrote: Wow, Artosis does not want to give up on major, really really going so far for him. Really hope he appreciates what Artosis is doing for him and stays in line this time. Wonder how it will go for TSL, hopefully majOr doesn't make it a pain for them. How could he? Apparently Artosis has been looking out for him since BW. Now, perhaps he wasn't happy with certain team scenarios, but he sure could have handled many matters in a more proper way. It does look, however, like he is actually trying hard in the TSL house. The coaches and players are saying he works very hard and is very receptive to advice. Hopefully he finally has grown up. | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On October 04 2011 02:02 RoboBob wrote: Anyone know his SC2ranks KR profile? It'd be cool to see where he's at right now. There is an "IM'Terran" in KR GM, but obviously Juan isn't on IM and as far as I know there's nobody on IM with that ID anyway. his Korean ID is NoNge | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Lol he stole Light's ID. | ||
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CoolSea
United States236 Posts
He's got quite the habit of borrowing BW players IDs. I believe every single ID he's used besides GosITerran has belonged to a BW player before him. | ||
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Shaetan
United States1175 Posts
On October 04 2011 02:02 RoboBob wrote: Anyone know his SC2ranks KR profile? It'd be cool to see where he's at right now. There is an "IM'Terran" in KR GM, but obviously Juan isn't on IM and as far as I know there's nobody on IM with that ID anyway. that's dreamertt iirc | ||
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RoboBob
United States798 Posts
Holy crap. He's already top 100 masters in the entire KR masters leauge. Just by points, but still, that's ridiculous. And 500+ games in less than 3 weeks...wow. | ||
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Cade
Canada1420 Posts
On October 05 2011 01:56 RoboBob wrote: Holy crap. He's already top 100 masters in the entire KR masters leauge. Just by points, but still, that's ridiculous. And 500+ games in less than 3 weeks...wow. He has probably been playing there longer than he has actually been there in person | ||
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g0G0RandOm
Switzerland80 Posts
On September 29 2011 04:28 sopas wrote: a player that actually wants to go to korea for practice.. yeah that's true but come on... he will get sick if he never get any sunlight, and when you are in korea you need to do some sightseeing. | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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khaosis
Canada96 Posts
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Another_Terran
United States55 Posts
On October 05 2011 02:04 Cade wrote: He has probably been playing there longer than he has actually been there in person 45-60 games a day. He has MajOr dedication | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On October 05 2011 02:04 Cade wrote: He has probably been playing there longer than he has actually been there in person yeah he has the account for at least 3 weeks before he moved over, he was talking to lastshadow on it. | ||
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Xyik
Canada728 Posts
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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
On October 05 2011 02:09 Another_Terran wrote: 45-60 games a day. He has MajOr dedication major had this account long before he was invited to korea and i seriously doubt he will be wasting time on the ladder when he can practice specific MUs and strategies with the guys from TSL anyways, im looking forward to seeing him in some korean or internatinal tourneys, it'd be quite interesting to see just how much he has improved (: | ||
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RoboBob
United States798 Posts
On October 05 2011 02:04 Cade wrote: He has probably been playing there longer than he has actually been there in person No, this is a brand new account that was made this September. If you look at his sc2ranks profile, he did play a couple games in the first 2 weeks of September, but not very many. It's probably closer to 500 games in 2 weeks. He's in the same division as Puma. And I'm pretty sure that count is the real Puma, because the account was formerly in Grandmasters. And that account also has a 2v2 team with the real Hongun'Prime that's in KR Grandmasters. http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/3366446/NoNge#alltime | ||
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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
that means he aint doing that well then sadface | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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royal.cze
Canada287 Posts
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Executor1
1353 Posts
This is really surprising though as it has been his dream to go to korea, and now hes back in NA? I know he plans on heading back to korea but this just seems really strange, especially after artosis flew him out there and such. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On November 04 2011 15:59 Xeris wrote: he was never a part of TSL... he just practiced in the house for a bit ah okay noted, based on the coaches statements and the post it seemed like he was. edit: even artosis says to coach lee "youve met Juan he has now joined TSL tell me your thoughts" and coach lee responds with something like, he thought Juan suited the team and that he was confident he would fit in and improve with the team. | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On November 04 2011 16:07 Phayze wrote: Artosis was pretty adamant about saying he was "On the Team". Maybe he didnt fit in well? yea and even when he said to coach lee "now that Juan has joined tsl" or something like that. Coach lee also responded like he was on the team. I think he probably didnt fit in well, or like i said threw a hissy fit about not being accepted into foreign events. Also does anyone know if he tried out for the code a qualifiers, as this announcement of a new team comes shortly after his potential failure (if he was there) at the qualifiers. | ||
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Tekkerz
United Kingdom216 Posts
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
on topic: what's MajOr been up to lately? He always seems to be coming and going; I can never keep track of the guy. Last I heard he was playing under the handle "Terran", but now that I check his liquipedia entry it says "WinDy"?? The dude needs to just stick with MajOr imo. It's a decent nick; way better than Terran. And it's the one most people know him as. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
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Bayyne
United States1967 Posts
On November 04 2011 16:10 Executor1 wrote: yea and even when he said to coach lee "now that Juan has joined tsl" or something like that. Coach lee also responded like he was on the team. I think he probably didnt fit in well, or like i said threw a hissy fit about not being accepted into foreign events. Also does anyone know if he tried out for the code a qualifiers, as this announcement of a new team comes shortly after his potential failure (if he was there) at the qualifiers. For this most recent Code A quals, he wasn't in Korea. He did go to Blizzcon to compete there and hasn't returned to Korea yet (he will though in Jan. as per the x6 announcement). As for what happened with his relationship with TSL, who the fuck knows? We can all speculate until he, or someone that knows what happened, confirms. | ||
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JBlaze187
Canada37 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:56 motbob wrote: MajOr, the #3 foreigner in the world by ELO ranking, has joined the Korean team TSL.Not much information about this, since it was just announced on SotG. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDBYOQuRKuY Yea go Major! Amazing terran huge fan bro. Sidenote - 2:47-2:55 of above video makes me laugh everytime, anyone else? | ||
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