On September 21 2011 02:53 Selendis wrote:
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you sir are almost as win as the guy doing batman quotes.
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polysciguy
United States488 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:53 Selendis wrote: ![]() you sir are almost as win as the guy doing batman quotes. | ||
Incursus
United States415 Posts
Standard play you say? How about proxied motherfucking phoenixes in your third base. Don't cheese me bro? Too fucking bad here come the Blink Stalkers. Roach bust? U mad son? GREAT WALL OF HONGUN. It's too bad we've taken so long to realize who our true hero is...he's our Dark Knight... | ||
alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:05 Daimai wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2011 21:23 Bobster wrote: Protoss QQing about balance reminds me of rich people QQing about minor tax raises. You've dominated for such a long time, now accept that you're getting cut short - and start rallying behind those trying new strategies, experimenting, innovating! + Show Spoiler + Fuck, just take a look at the Top 5 highest earning non-Koreans: Huk, [Sen], White-Ra, Socke, Naniwa. Protoss are taking all the money! Protoss were OP because people didn't innovate while protoss already used all of their arsenal. Now that zerg and terran are starting to do some other starts than mindless T1/T2 spam... well you see the result. So if other races suck, they need to innovate, but when P starts losing, they're just UP and have nothing else in their arsenal and conveniently ignore players who don't cry but DO innovate, eg. Hero. | ||
Charger
United States2405 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:20 alepov wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 02:05 Daimai wrote: On September 20 2011 21:23 Bobster wrote: Protoss QQing about balance reminds me of rich people QQing about minor tax raises. You've dominated for such a long time, now accept that you're getting cut short - and start rallying behind those trying new strategies, experimenting, innovating! + Show Spoiler + Fuck, just take a look at the Top 5 highest earning non-Koreans: Huk, [Sen], White-Ra, Socke, Naniwa. Protoss are taking all the money! Protoss were OP because people didn't innovate while protoss already used all of their arsenal. Now that zerg and terran are starting to do some other starts than mindless T1/T2 spam... well you see the result. So if other races suck, they need to innovate, but when P starts losing, they're just UP and have nothing else in their arsenal and conveniently ignore players who don't cry but DO innovate, eg. Hero. Well well well, how ironic. :p | ||
perestain
Germany308 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:20 alepov wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 02:05 Daimai wrote: On September 20 2011 21:23 Bobster wrote: Protoss QQing about balance reminds me of rich people QQing about minor tax raises. You've dominated for such a long time, now accept that you're getting cut short - and start rallying behind those trying new strategies, experimenting, innovating! + Show Spoiler + Fuck, just take a look at the Top 5 highest earning non-Koreans: Huk, [Sen], White-Ra, Socke, Naniwa. Protoss are taking all the money! Protoss were OP because people didn't innovate while protoss already used all of their arsenal. Now that zerg and terran are starting to do some other starts than mindless T1/T2 spam... well you see the result. So if other races suck, they need to innovate, but when P starts losing, they're just UP and have nothing else in their arsenal and conveniently ignore players who don't cry but DO innovate, eg. Hero. Yep. protoss just started losing, while all the other races were having problems before and managed. oh wait... | ||
SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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R3N
740 Posts
And I hope it gets worse. All 'toss out of code S/A(/B LoL) | ||
Neino
Norway295 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:20 alepov wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 02:05 Daimai wrote: On September 20 2011 21:23 Bobster wrote: Protoss QQing about balance reminds me of rich people QQing about minor tax raises. You've dominated for such a long time, now accept that you're getting cut short - and start rallying behind those trying new strategies, experimenting, innovating! + Show Spoiler + Fuck, just take a look at the Top 5 highest earning non-Koreans: Huk, [Sen], White-Ra, Socke, Naniwa. Protoss are taking all the money! Protoss were OP because people didn't innovate while protoss already used all of their arsenal. Now that zerg and terran are starting to do some other starts than mindless T1/T2 spam... well you see the result. So if other races suck, they need to innovate, but when P starts losing, they're just UP and have nothing else in their arsenal and conveniently ignore players who don't cry but DO innovate, eg. Hero. Think you didn't read what he actually wrote. He said toss was using their entire arsenal. Not sure wether I agree or disagree with the statement, but I sure as hell am certan that toss has used a much larger portion in PvX than the other two. (MMM - Roach/hydra anyone). And people also love to pretend like they "figured out the matchup". Bull, toss got nerfed, then nerfed and nerfed some more, and it's not like toss were ever truly domminating either, one player (MC) does not count as an entire race domminating. Again, not saying toss figured out the matchup either, but i'm saying they've been a hell of a lot more innovative than terran. (No, going 2raxes with reactor and one with tech lab instead of the usual does not count, neither does making ghosts, that's like saying i'm innovative for adding hightemplars in my pure gateway army) Zerg I'm actually a bit thorn on, due to baneling drops etc | ||
willoc
Canada1530 Posts
Also not seeing the warp prism buff love around here. Perhaps this will change the meta due to more harass options being available? | ||
perestain
Germany308 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:37 R3N wrote: I'm enjoying this toss' mass depression. Please do express your feelings - it's masochistically pleasing to me. And I hope it gets worse. All 'toss out of code S/A(/B LoL) Actually it would be a pretty responsible step if protoss was banned from tournament play considering players put their lives and careers on the line. Anyway balance issues will help you stay closer to the top of this game, since the competetive scene will sooner or later suffer from not being taken seriously anymore. GL convincing new audiences to get interested in a competition that is obviously a farce. | ||
ThirdDegree
United States329 Posts
Of course I have my race biases and things that I think are OP, but let us protoss try to figure out how to beat every strat as the game is, instead of hoping for future patches. PROTOSS FIGHTING! | ||
QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:37 R3N wrote: I'm enjoying this toss' mass depression. Please do express your feelings - it's masochistically pleasing to me. And I hope it gets worse. All 'toss out of code S/A(/B LoL) Basically you are telling me that you are calling for a massive Protoss patch that will allow for them to be competitive - a patch that will be strong enough that if there were zero of them in the GSL, all of a sudden they would represent 33% of Code S/A/B! Thank you for your support! | ||
sperY
Serbia444 Posts
Atm I feel like i cant win a single game not being pvp! | ||
Jarmam
Denmark140 Posts
I encourage the creative minds to overtake the weaker among us and once again spawn cozy Toss-to-Toss backrubs and... the like! tl:dr: less qq moar pic | ||
perestain
Germany308 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:58 ThirdDegree wrote: This is becoming quite the discouraging thread. Sure we all have our race biases, but we are all starcraft players! The game without all three would be horrible to play and watch. Let's bring back the encouraging side of things! Of course I have my race biases and things that I think are OP, but let us protoss try to figure out how to beat every strat as the game is, instead of hoping for future patches. PROTOSS FIGHTING! Unless you are in a korean teamhouse and spend 60 hours per week developing and practicing builds for a living, you're pretty much restricted to a spectator role in this matter. On ladder you can still get interesting games with Protoss, since there are enough players who are just too bad to abuse their advantages. | ||
ThirdDegree
United States329 Posts
On September 21 2011 04:13 perestain wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 03:58 ThirdDegree wrote: This is becoming quite the discouraging thread. Sure we all have our race biases, but we are all starcraft players! The game without all three would be horrible to play and watch. Let's bring back the encouraging side of things! Of course I have my race biases and things that I think are OP, but let us protoss try to figure out how to beat every strat as the game is, instead of hoping for future patches. PROTOSS FIGHTING! Unless you are in a korean teamhouse and spend 60 hours per week developing and practicing builds for a living, you're pretty much restricted to a spectator role in this matter. On ladder you can still get interesting games with Protoss, since there are enough players who are just too bad to abuse their advantages. I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or not. I was just saying that let's: 1) Stop the race hate. and 2) Play the game and try to win without crying imba. | ||
QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On September 21 2011 04:17 ThirdDegree wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 04:13 perestain wrote: On September 21 2011 03:58 ThirdDegree wrote: This is becoming quite the discouraging thread. Sure we all have our race biases, but we are all starcraft players! The game without all three would be horrible to play and watch. Let's bring back the encouraging side of things! Of course I have my race biases and things that I think are OP, but let us protoss try to figure out how to beat every strat as the game is, instead of hoping for future patches. PROTOSS FIGHTING! Unless you are in a korean teamhouse and spend 60 hours per week developing and practicing builds for a living, you're pretty much restricted to a spectator role in this matter. On ladder you can still get interesting games with Protoss, since there are enough players who are just too bad to abuse their advantages. I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or not. I was just saying that let's: 1) Stop the race hate. and 2) Play the game and try to win without crying imba. Though there are a large % of players who like to attribute Imbalance in the GSL as the main culprit for their own losses, keep in mind that there is the "spectators input" as well. While I agree with your points, as a consumer of the GSL and other season passes for SC2 tournaments, imbalance is something that should be addressed and debated. For example, if I were a Silver Zerg player, and loved Nestea, but then watched him crash out of Code S->A->B along with 4 of the other 6 Zergs remaining in Code S, I would be furious. ("I'm not paying to watch 99% TvT! Fix this game!") Even though imbalance affects literally 0.01% of my games on ladder, I can't stand to watch these imbalances VS Zerg at the highest level of play. Thus I will justifiably complain and cry imba. Basically, I'm trying to say that even if your suggestions 1) 2) are good (which they are) people still have a valid reason to start race hate and cry imba. | ||
ThirdDegree
United States329 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:37 R3N wrote: I'm enjoying this toss' mass depression. Please do express your feelings - it's masochistically pleasing to me. And I hope it gets worse. All 'toss out of code S/A(/B LoL) just so negative ![]() | ||
freetgy
1720 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:20 alepov wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 02:05 Daimai wrote: On September 20 2011 21:23 Bobster wrote: Protoss QQing about balance reminds me of rich people QQing about minor tax raises. You've dominated for such a long time, now accept that you're getting cut short - and start rallying behind those trying new strategies, experimenting, innovating! + Show Spoiler + Fuck, just take a look at the Top 5 highest earning non-Koreans: Huk, [Sen], White-Ra, Socke, Naniwa. Protoss are taking all the money! Protoss were OP because people didn't innovate while protoss already used all of their arsenal. Now that zerg and terran are starting to do some other starts than mindless T1/T2 spam... well you see the result. So if other races suck, they need to innovate, but when P starts losing, they're just UP and have nothing else in their arsenal and conveniently ignore players who don't cry but DO innovate, eg. Hero. it is ironic because in a standardgame a protoss usually builds twice as much different unit types compared for a Zerg for example. telling Protoss to innovate, when they are using more compositions than Zerg has ever played since release.... | ||
Neino
Norway295 Posts
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