• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:57
CEST 08:57
KST 15:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2
Tourneys
https://www.facebook.com/TurboMan.Official/ PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 ASL22 General Discussion Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Toronto invitational lan 22 august [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group B [ASL22] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5632 users

Do you macro like a pro? - Page 28

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 63 Next
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
September 17 2011 02:04 GMT
#541
On September 17 2011 11:02 Reithan wrote:
@stanik Just ran the numbers:
My Mean Worker Production Rate is 3.99/min
My Median Worker Production Rate is 3.98/min
My Deviation from Mean is 0.77

....so....I make drones better than a Grandmaster??
And I spend my money at a mid-master level??

WHY THE HELL AM I PLAT???


presumably you are overdroning, then spend money like a madman to not die and then die anyways because you overdroned
tredogz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada170 Posts
September 17 2011 02:05 GMT
#542
That is very interesting... I love how players are always... I am as good as a diamond but I'm in silver league... lol... that looked like a lot of work and was very nice.
t to the redogz, tredogz
infinitum
Profile Joined April 2011
United States83 Posts
September 17 2011 02:07 GMT
#543
I am quite surprised that terrans make more workers than protoss, when toss have chronoboost and terrans need to make less workers because they have MULEs. Anybody have any insight about that?
Everything you know was forged from the remnants of a supernova.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
September 17 2011 02:08 GMT
#544
Moving average for today´s games(10 games) (I took the 10 previous games before today´s):

1 - 61.14878325
2 - 64.56772818
3 - 66.31927646
4 - 63.34538236
5 - 60.5479079
6 - 58.97198264
7 - 56.31981758

Seems the more games I play, the worse my macro.
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
September 17 2011 02:12 GMT
#545
On September 17 2011 11:08 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Moving average for today´s games(10 games) (I took the 10 previous games before today´s):

1 - 61.14878325
2 - 64.56772818
3 - 66.31927646
4 - 63.34538236
5 - 60.5479079
6 - 58.97198264
7 - 56.31981758

Seems the more games I play, the worse my macro.


Curious, did you start tilting from losses? Because my average today went from mid 70's to high 60's after a bit of a slump (went 7-4 today)
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 17 2011 02:13 GMT
#546
Great post & write-up! Very interesting.
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
Reithan
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 02:49:42
September 17 2011 02:17 GMT
#547
This is the spreadsheet I ran.
[image loading]
Just in case anyone wanted to see where my numbers came from.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/Xanthus730 ***** http://www.twitch.tv/reithan
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
September 17 2011 02:18 GMT
#548
On September 17 2011 11:02 Reithan wrote:
@stanik Just ran the numbers:
My Mean Worker Production Rate is 3.99/min
My Median Worker Production Rate is 3.98/min
My Deviation from Mean is 0.77

....so....I make drones better than a Grandmaster??
And I spend my money at a mid-master level??

WHY THE HELL AM I PLAT???


Maybe you're unit control? There are more factors for sure. Not every platinum player is the same and neither is every grandmaster. Think of yourself as excelling in a specific area.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
stanik
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada213 Posts
September 17 2011 02:19 GMT
#549
On September 17 2011 11:07 infinitum wrote:
I am quite surprised that terrans make more workers than protoss, when toss have chronoboost and terrans need to make less workers because they have MULEs. Anybody have any insight about that?


Some of it might be because a terran is almost always building 4-5 structures at any given time they need a few extra workers.

I've also noticed that protoss players seem to be more aware of their current economy and are likely to cut probes if they see they are stuck on a set number of bases, whilst terrans build scvs almost automatically all the time and will over saturate bases more willingly.

maybe not comeplete insight but some ideas
stanik
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada213 Posts
September 17 2011 02:25 GMT
#550
On September 17 2011 11:17 Reithan wrote:
This is the spreadsheet I ran.
[image loading]
Just in case anyone wanted to see where my numbers came from.


The best part is that if you remove that fictitious 1 minute game your score will be even higher and you will be more upset.


Reithan
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
September 17 2011 02:28 GMT
#551
Formatting fubar. Should read 25 minutes, if you look the match works out for 25min...dunno how to fix the formatting.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/Xanthus730 ***** http://www.twitch.tv/reithan
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
September 17 2011 02:36 GMT
#552
Beautiful. Just beautiful. being an analyst myself, I lover seeing mathematical tools like these applied to provide an in depth analysis. well done
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
DrThorMD
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada359 Posts
September 17 2011 02:38 GMT
#553
You sir a massive BOSS. Even my stats prof would be proud. And he is the driest person I know. This is amazing. Also, interesting etc.
Damn your Chronoboosts!
TuRbii
Profile Joined May 2011
United States38 Posts
September 17 2011 02:40 GMT
#554
This was a very good read. You deserve an award!
doNe
Avelestar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia12 Posts
September 17 2011 02:41 GMT
#555
Statistics give me a boner. Very glad there's someone that actually bothers to do the hard number crunching rather than just GUYS BRONZIES DON'T SPEND THEIR MONEY LOLZ.
herp derp
SelkciPlum
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2 Posts
September 17 2011 02:42 GMT
#556
The only thing that can make SQ inaccurate is how long it takes your opponent to GG. I have a SQ of 84 when they leave right after I win the first engagement, but if they drag it out and/or lift their buildings and fly around, it can be as low as 58.
Ciraxis
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia400 Posts
September 17 2011 02:45 GMT
#557
Great analysis and very professional. Well done.
Reithan
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
September 17 2011 02:50 GMT
#558
On September 17 2011 11:28 Reithan wrote:
Formatting fubar. Should read 25 minutes, if you look the match works out for 25min...dunno how to fix the formatting.

Fixed it. Here's the proper formatting:
[image loading]
(updated original post, too.)
http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/Xanthus730 ***** http://www.twitch.tv/reithan
Chodes
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada212 Posts
September 17 2011 02:52 GMT
#559
This is cool. But did you actually learn how to play better?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | "Sup Son"- SeleCT"~~MMA Fighting!!
Kwanny
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 02:56:22
September 17 2011 02:55 GMT
#560
Big Kudos to you, sir! And this needs to be part of SC2gears!

- regarding numbers, I am a master terran, slightly above average and have a SQ of 75.38, remarkably close to what the graph would have predicted.
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 63 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft552
ProTech40
Trikslyr20
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 3463
actioN 1056
Larva 387
Dota 2
The International100985
Gorgc6932
singsing1797
League of Legends
JimRising 708
Counter-Strike
edward163
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King125
Other Games
summit1g10800
C9.Mang0271
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick509
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH341
• Hupsaiya 79
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen35
• lizZardDota230
League of Legends
• Rush1407
• Lourlo1026
• Stunt417
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
3h 3m
PiG Sty Festival
5h 3m
Zoun vs Solar
SHIN vs Maru
Patches Events
9h 3m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 3h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 5h
TBD vs Reynor
Serral vs TBD
OSC
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
hero vs ggaemo
Larva vs Mong
The Patches Monday
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soulkey vs PianO
JyJ vs sSak
GSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W8
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.