EPTDo you macro like a pro? - Page 26
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MacDubhghaill
United States41 Posts
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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ScrubS
Netherlands436 Posts
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
I think a lot of ppl who are finding themselves with high scores have this as their underlying cause. | ||
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
On September 17 2011 09:06 ScrubS wrote: I dont get the SQ stuff, I calculated mine from 3 random games in my match history and i had an average of 93. You are suggesting that with such a high SQ number, i shouldn't focus on my macro because I am able to spent my resources? Or is it more an indicator of macro capabilities rather than your actual skill? I guess that just depends on the number of games you analyze? or your math is wrong  I acutally made a research concidering the worker production. In the firstpost, you compare grandmaster worker production with other leagues and divide them into the 3 races. I added IdrA and Ret to the Grandmaster Z, P and T graph ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/anlysis6jnx.jpg) | ||
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IsuckatSC
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Brilliant post ! | ||
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Chrisboy
Australia118 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On September 17 2011 09:06 ScrubS wrote: I dont get the SQ stuff, I calculated mine from 3 random games in my match history and i had an average of 93. You are suggesting that with such a high SQ number, i shouldn't focus on my macro because I am able to spent my resources? Or is it more an indicator of macro capabilities rather than your actual skill? I guess that just depends on the number of games you analyze? 3 is an incredibly small sample size. i can also get a 90+ SQ if i cherry pick games, that's why you need to use at least 10+ games. | ||
Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
On September 17 2011 09:19 DiaBoLuS wrote: or your math is wrong I acutally made a research concidering the worker production. In the firstpost, you compare grandmaster worker production with other leagues and divide them into the 3 races. I added IdrA and Ret to the Grandmaster Z, P and T graph Are those ingame minutes or real minutes on that chart? Ret gets 80 drones by 5 minutes? If that's in game minutes 14/13 gets ling speed at around 5 minutes.  | ||
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Al Bundy
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Peleus
Australia420 Posts
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Altar
United States577 Posts
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tshred
18 Posts
On September 17 2011 09:06 ScrubS wrote: I dont get the SQ stuff, I calculated mine from 3 random games in my match history and i had an average of 93. You are suggesting that with such a high SQ number, i shouldn't focus on my macro because I am able to spent my resources? Or is it more an indicator of macro capabilities rather than your actual skill? I guess that just depends on the number of games you analyze? It's just an indicator of how well you spend your money. There are other hidden factors for macro that can't be calculated mathematically such as expansion timings, worker saturation compared to the number of bases, number of production facilities, etc. These other factors affect your macro in addition to how well you spend your money. To determine if your macro is good enough, you'll need to examine some information about your games. If you are below diamond league, then for the most part you could still work on macro. For the games that you lost, compare your income to your opponents. If you have a high SQ, but your income is lower than your opponent, then you still need to work on your macro. If your income is about the same or greater than your opponent and you still lost the game, then there was probably some decision making or micro error that might've cost you the game. | ||
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ButtCraft
United States114 Posts
-1000 pt master Pretty accurate analysis, I would say. Even more evidence that macro is the largest difference between good and bad players. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On September 17 2011 05:24 Clbull wrote: Does that matter? It was still significantly lower than it should have been regardless. 8 points less is a big fucking deal. High level players still have a higher SQ in longer games, I suspect it also drops by a few points for them too. They keep their SQ higher by finding ways to spend money in the late game. Things like static defense, losing their units to harrass and army trades, and building more production facilities to re-max in the late game would all contribute to a higher SQ in the late-game than an average gold level player. | ||
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
On September 17 2011 09:30 Jaeger wrote: Are those ingame minutes or real minutes on that chart? Ret gets 80 drones by 5 minutes? If that's in game minutes 14/13 gets ling speed at around 5 minutes. oh wow, i thought the graphs were exteme enough to not be serious :/ | ||
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taishiro
51 Posts
I've been stuck in platinum league since season 1, and never manage to be able to get out. Since this shows my macro being decent, what aspects should I focus on not sucking at? Now instead of feeling like I lost due to bad macro, I feel like I just suck at the game in general. I do notice in my wins I win by an overwhelming amount, and losses are like I'm getting picked apart. (looking back at opponents SQ they averaged 63) This is a ridiculously amazing read, and I couldn't be more impressed at the time you put into this. I am just wondering what conclusions about other parts of your game play you should focus if your SQ is significantly higher or lower than your actual level of play. (I'm not trying to be difficult or prove this wrong, several friends of mine did this for their last 30 as well and their averages were almost spot on the average of their respective ranks) | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
School is definitely a cause for skill degradation. | ||
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