EPTI'm pretty sure this is one of the main reason why people think GSL is getting borring.
Code S might be losing entertainment value. - Page 8
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DertoQq
France906 Posts
I'm pretty sure this is one of the main reason why people think GSL is getting borring. | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
 Need a protoss  HerO to come wreck shit up. | ||
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thatsundowner
Canada312 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:50 Sated wrote: 1-game series in the groups? Seriously? A 1-game series tells us nothing. Players can win in the most peculiar ways and it can lead to a really unstable up/down system. Best-of-3 matches would be much better, I don't like watching Best-of-1s at all... which is proabably why I'm also not a fan of most team-leagues that use the GSTL format. The EGMC has a better format IMO, even with the 2v2 matches. The system is supposed to be unstable, it would be even worse if we always have the same 32 players with maybe a few shifting in and out here and there. Don't we all bitch about the pools at MLG and how players like Haypro and incontrol stick around in pools the entire year because of one good tournament and the pool system giving them a decent finish regardless of how well they do? Is there some reason we want GSL to be that way now? If players want to stay in Code S, they should have to win some games to do it, I don't see why this is all of a sudden a problem | ||
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JediGamer
United States656 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
1. TvT. TBH, it isn't a bad match up to watch, but I'll be damned to watch GSL when I pull up the LR thread and see 3 TvT's, I just can't stand that many...It has gotten to the point where I just don't watch GSL altogether if the day has too much TvT 2. The Bo1 format where someone plays 2-3 games and nothing for the rest of the month. So frustrating to see great players unable to edge out a win and disappear until the up and downs | ||
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reptile
United States210 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:02 lizzard_warish wrote: I can put my finger on why GSL is getting boring, and so can most people from what I've seen; watching thirty tvt's in a row is fucking gay. User was warned for this post Although I'd word it differently, I completely agree. I was a huge GSL fan until it became over populated with Terran domination. Not that I don't give credit to the players, but, at this point, it feels like the same thing, over and over again. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
Sadly though, there has to be something wrong for that many Terrans to be in Code S, I just think Korean Terrans are on another level and have a more well rounded race at the moment. Either way, I love the GSL and the amount of content it produces, I just want more exciting content and the game to become more stable. | ||
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:45 Zanno wrote: my take on PvP is it's like a warcraft 3 match that ends in 10 minutes on account of things actually die there's certainly a skill to it, but the current state of TvT resembles a game of brood war more than any of the other matchups, and as someone who's been following the scene on and off since flash was just that kid who cheesed bisu out, i find it to be the most entertaining matchup If you can explain to me in what way it's entertaining to stare at siege tanks for 30+ minutes, that would be much appreciated because I still don't get it. | ||
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okrane
France265 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:53 babylon wrote: Oh, come on. Don't reduce WC3 matches to PvP. WC3 games are much more entertaining. You can actually come back if you make a huge mistake, for one, and it's easier for strategy to have a larger effect on the outcome of a game. It's not about who has more units, which is what PvP often comes down to, but about the larger picture. The larger picture may or may not include lots and lots of towers though. (Infi ...) Seriously. I've recently watched some WC3 pro matches and wondered what the fuck I am doing wasting my time watching SC2. Goes to prove that its micro and army battles that are entertaining to watch, not some guy building up his deathball.... | ||
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lee365
United States448 Posts
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Thurokiir
United States779 Posts
end of story. | ||
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
Maybe do two bo3 and than one bo3/5 between the winners? It would have little more story this way. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:52 starmeat_ wrote: Code S is supposed to have the best Starcraft players in the world, right? Well, the majority of Code S is Terran. That means the majority of the matches are TvT's. How can players be called the best in the world where over 50% of their matches are TvT? (or ZvT or PvT) Shouldn't the best palyers in the world play a fair amount against Protoss and Zerg? I think we'll end up with a situation, if we haven't already, where some players remain in Code S just because they are excellent against Terran. For Code S to remain the tournament where the best players in the world prove themselves, there needs to be more Protoss and Zerg. I do not think GOMTV should be solving this problem. I do not agree when people mention, the only reason Code S has so many Terrans is because Terran seems to be the most popular race, since most, if not all the Bonjwas were Terran. I'm sure this is partially true, but there's been a steady influx of ever increasing numbers of Terran into Code S. Were this to be true, there would have been a disproportionate number of Terrans in Code S to begin with, which is not true. I am of the opinion that Terran is imbalanced on a design level with a massive number of viable tech paths as well as viable units at it's disposal. This, with the addition of mules as well as sensor towers. But this is just my opinion. The difference is that each Bonjwa, including Savior, was usually the sole representative person of their race at the time. When Boxer was first popular there weren't many other top Terrans. oov/nada can get a little iffy, but with Savior, no other Zerg came close, and same with Flash. No other Terran is even remotely as good as Flash or can say to be near his equal. Fantasy had moments of brilliance and I'd say he might have gotten the closest, but I also love Fantasy and always root for him so I'm biased. In SC2, Terrans dominate throughout. If you look at the KESPA rankings the top 30 are almost always 1/3 for each race. | ||
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jdsarge
United States308 Posts
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TheButtonmen
Canada1401 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:29 Blazinghand wrote: Or even seed the groups based on previous player performance, guaranteeing high-quality games as the tournament progresses, and having some more closely-matched finals games. This would definitely do more to shake things up than bringing in people through an alternative qualification scheme. Like 1vs32 at one end of the bracket and 2vs31 and the far end? | ||
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thatsundowner
Canada312 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:57 Thurokiir wrote: I work, I can't watch GSL. end of story. money from your job can be exchanged for goods and services (watching GSL whenever you want!) | ||
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Zombie_Velociraptor
274 Posts
While short term it might seem like a good idea to have reasonably important games going on basically every day of the week, it's obviously going to lose a lot of its shine after a month or a few, even for the most dedicated fans. MLG's etc are more exciting to watch simply because those are shorter and much wider spread out events, so it feels more involving. | ||
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
the GSL however has done one thing a lot better than the NASL. every match(day) in the GSL is pivotal, while single matches in the regular season of the NASL seem so meaningless. | ||
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Phyxx
Denmark681 Posts
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