EPTLadder fear and The Korean Enigma explained. - Page 3
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
On September 07 2011 09:45 zyce wrote: I truly appreciate this post, OP. You've done something wonderful here, and I hope that I can contribute a very small bit to make things even more interesting. Korean is one of a select few "Language Isolates" that does not draw from any other language. The way we speak often steers our critical thinking in many different ways, for reasons which I don't need to get into now. An example being the Aboriginal peoples of Australia, who instead of using terms like "to the left" or "behind you" always refer to the cardinal direction of an object. The man is North of me. If an Aboriginal can't SEE the man North of him, he *will* say something to the effect of "A man was North of me". Most Aboriginals have a near perfect sense of cardinal direction. I am curious if the Korean language isolate is responsible for any of the differences between Koreans and foreigners. While surely the most weight rests on culture and practice regimen, I find this a very interesting and unexplored area. Thanks again! Unfortunate edit: I don't believe in "persona dichotomies" as the book you reference professes. I believe this to be much the same as believing in "Good" and "Evil", which I also believe to be a false dichotomy. My post seemed to indicate I was in complete agreeance with you, whilst in reality I disagree heavily on this and some other points. I understand, and neither do I. The whole fixed and growth mindset is a simplified version of what really happens, in order to allow people to better understand the concept. In reality people have growth and fixed views in different areas. | ||
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Conquerer67
United States605 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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Tweleve
United States644 Posts
a lot of people on NA have ego issues User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
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Jim7
United States154 Posts
I also don't have the desire to reach masters but at the same time don't have much ladder fear.. so where would that put me? | ||
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
On September 07 2011 09:51 Kazeyonoma wrote: i definitely can see where the fixed mindset vs growth mindset is hindering. my question is with almost any type of scenario, there are pros and cons to both sides, it doesn't seem like the growth mindset has any cons. is this your observation as well? The growth mindset's only flaws I can attest to are having a distorted concept of whats possible. If you go to far with your growth mindset you start to think you can do anything you want, and as a result might end up waste alot of your time. How many people go to college to major in drama or photography to find out, they have a very low chance of getting a good job doing that, no matter how good they are. In a scenario where skill and work don't pay off that well, growth mindset can sometimes be a hindrance. Maybe a job interview, where you need to be a little more arrogant than you normally are, everything has its drawbacks. But you can learn to maintain a balance. All in all a growth mindset is a more realistic view of the world itself. Every 7 years all the molecules in your body a different from the previous ones. Your literally are not made out of the same matter you were, and people are dynamic likewise. People learn things and change, and its a more realistic view of the world to take this into account. But its easier and simpler to just judge people at face value. | ||
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furerkip
United States439 Posts
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
On September 07 2011 10:00 Jim7 wrote: Very cool. It looks like I'm a fixed mindset but not all the points apply to me ;( I also don't have the desire to reach masters but at the same time don't have much ladder fear.. so where would that put me? Well you have to dig down deep and find teh reason your not interested in reaching masters. It might be because your afraid your not masters material and so your not even trying. The growth mindset view is that you should play to get better and masters will come in time as a result. If your more focused on your league than your gameplay then that could be a problem. | ||
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SiffStarcraft
United States45 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7595 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
I think the reason for this might just be because SCII isn't what it used to be, I mean some of us have waited 12 years for this game to come out and a few of us were a tad disappointed. | ||
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FLEIA
Canada71 Posts
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On September 07 2011 10:07 IntoTheheart wrote: Luckily though, we can at least start seeing some stagnation and eventually a solid player base. I mean most games are like this anyway, right? A ton of games I've played start off with a huge player base and the population declines, stagnates, and then picks up slowly. IMO as long as the rate of people going down doesn't rocket, it shouldn't matter. I think the reason for this might just be because SCII isn't what it used to be, I mean some of us have waited 12 years for this game to come out and a few of us were a tad disappointed. Fixed mindset. :-) You've told yourself that there is nothing more that you can do with the game. That the game is inherently broken. That YOU, are at a disadvantage, because you aren't X. Did I do it right OP? | ||
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
On September 07 2011 10:17 Sm3agol wrote: Fixed mindset. :-) You've told yourself that there is nothing more that you can do with the game. That the game is inherently broken. That YOU, are at a disadvantage, because you aren't X. Did I do it right OP? Hell yeah son, that how you do it. Let them know all the excuses they make are in their mind. | ||
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MidgeS
Germany5 Posts
*yay*I Love the white-ra quote, because seeing the interview in the trailer shown during MLG Raleigh was what made me play ladder again. I agree that the mindset is essential to achieving your goal. I hated loosing, not becaus i thougt it would show im bad but because it felt like not getting better. | ||
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julysun
United States29 Posts
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
On September 07 2011 10:21 MidgeS wrote: My first TL post *yay*I Love the white-ra quote, because seeing the interview in the trailer shown during MLG Raleigh was what made me play ladder again. I agree that the mindset is essential to achieving your goal. I hated loosing, not becaus i thougt it would show im bad but because it felt like not getting better. Fixed mindset trap, I hated loosing, not becaus i thougt it would show im bad but because it felt like not getting better. 1. you would probably never admit to being bad, your bad im bad were all bad. until you get into code a, your simply not that good, admit it. 2. You were worried your not going to get better because you were afraid if you really tried you'd fail. Well you just sabotaged yourself sir. Thats how you create a self fufilling prophecy. Gl, im glad white ra is so inspirational. If you practice hard you WILL get better. | ||
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