Unit Speed and 1.4 Seeker Missile - Page 7

On August 26 2011 04:10 tehemperorer wrote:

The comparison that should be made is, "Do you ever get increased observer speed?"

On August 26 2011 03:59 CoR wrote:
what is a "fast zealot" ? you cant charge away (this patch also make new move order remove charge) so you can put out fast zealot plz this unit not exist

On August 26 2011 04:21 rastaban wrote:


Also remember the caster is flying so it is much easier to use as it is harder to kill and does not need to circumnavigate the army as other AOE casters do. It also can harass over edges and easily circumnavigate natural defensive terrain.

does that justify the cost, I still don't know but it will be interesting to see.

On August 26 2011 04:29 Xinder wrote:


Yeah but they can run from the auto turrets as they're being damaged. It's not instant. The raven sneaks in as one red dot on the map and the missile i don't think shows up so it gets in range, tosses missile, gets out. If they don't catch it then they lose 6+ workers. I don't see a prob with that? All harass forms have their risks that they just could completely fail. I dunno. Do i want Terran to have another harass form? Fuck no. Doesn't mean it still wouldn't work.

On August 25 2011 13:16 mprs wrote:
The Raven Change:



The black dot means HSM was faster than the stock speed of the unit.

The double gray dot means HSM will be now faster (or the same) as this unit.

So what changed? HSM will now be faster than:


• Workers (Probes, SCVs, Drones, and MULEs)
  
• Vikings
  
• Banshees
  
• Dark Templar
  
• Archons
  
  HSM will now be the same speed as:
  
  
• Ultralisks
  
• Un-upgraded Zerglings
  
• Un-upgraded Reapers
  
• Corrupters
  
• Stalkers
  

Note: The speeds of the "same speed" units are actually 2.9531, and the Raven buff is listed as 2.953. I'm not sure if this is a rounding problem or if they are meant to be faster by an incredibly small amount so that they could out run the HSM over a long period of time. It wouldn't make sense because if they were the same speed, the same effect would occur. I personally believe that they are both 2.9531, but obviously that could be subject to change.

I guess most notably, Seeker missles can really REALLY decimate worker lines if you don't know react very quickly and know which worker is being targeted. I guess this will make up for some of the lost worker destruction from the BFH nerf.

Being faster than vikings will be a huge deal in TvT, as you can ward off pesky vikings away from tanks and what not. Being faster than archons is pretty meaningless, since HSM radius is 2.0 and it will pretty much only hit one archon 99% of the time (correct me if I'm wrong). Ultralisks are in the same category of explanation. Zerglings, DTs, and Reapers are non-issue. HSM can now be used to ward off a group of stalkers now I guess, which could be some cool play. This can also apply to corrupters, but I have a hard time finding a reason for a Z to use corrupters vs T. Perhaps this will allow sky Terran to be viable and having an answer for mass corrupters?

To conclude, this change is going to have only significant repercussions in worker harass, and Vs. Viking and combat.

On August 26 2011 04:33 mprs wrote:
As a scientist, I hate replication of effort :S I posted this yeseterday:

On August 26 2011 02:29 Bobster wrote:

I've got three words for you.

pee dee dee

On August 26 2011 05:12 Jonas wrote:
guys. guys. Instead of marine/tank you can do marine/raven =)

Ravens blow up mutalisks and can destroy globs of banelings/zerglings EZ

On August 26 2011 04:57 tehemperorer wrote:

What's your take as a realist? ^^

On August 26 2011 05:20 s3rp wrote:


Have fun engaging on creep with that against speedbanes bye bye Marines .