Why 1/1/1 is considered to be imbalanced in Korea - Page 59

On August 23 2011 01:36 Kiarip wrote:
cannons + phoenix hold this with big advantage. so just gotta find a solid way to play a stargate-nexus-forge build

On August 23 2011 01:30 T.BonePickens wrote:
I'm just curious how well the 1/1/1 does against holding off a 4gate? I understand that the 4gate timing should hit before heavy tech units are produced. I feel if 4gate becomes used in the match up, Tarrens will be more reluctant to tech so hard, since they are only producing marines from one barracks.

I mean the Tarren player is being quite greedy in how fast he can get his tech, so wouldn't gas stealing or perhaps forcing a couple of bunkers make the difference of time needed to hold off the 1/1/1.

On August 23 2011 01:39 rareh wrote:
Just for the record white-ra beat puma's 1/1/1 with a 4gate warp prism drop and then a warp prism DT drop expand, in that showmatch they had at gamescom, was before the MC final.

Special tactics ftw

White-ra ended winning 2-0, just like mana, but i guess terran is OP, just cause of 1 set ?

On August 23 2011 01:40 Yaotzin wrote:

Do you not watch GSL?

On August 23 2011 01:40 Yaotzin wrote:

Do you not watch GSL?

On August 23 2011 01:39 rareh wrote:
Just for the record white-ra beat puma's 1/1/1 with a 4gate warp prism drop and then a warp prism DT drop expand, in that showmatch they had at gamescom, was before the MC final.

Special tactics ftw

White-ra ended winning 2-0, just like mana, but i guess terran is OP, just cause of 1 set where the better player, yet least popular won?

On August 23 2011 01:43 BlitzerSC wrote:


We are not complaning about terran being OP. We are complaning about the 1/1/1 all-in being TOO STRONG !

And btw, stop bringing back the MaNa vs PuMa argument. PuMa didn't use the 1/1/1 all-in versus MaNa.

On August 23 2011 01:44 rareh wrote:


I like how u ignored the part where i said whitera beat puma's 1/1/1

On August 23 2011 01:38 Arcanne wrote:


yeah because cannons are great against seige tanks

On August 23 2011 01:39 rareh wrote:
Just for the record white-ra beat puma's 1/1/1 with a 4gate warp prism drop and then a warp prism DT drop expand, in that showmatch they had at gamescom, was before the MC final.

Special tactics ftw

White-ra ended winning 2-0, just like mana, but i guess terran is OP, just cause of 1 set where the better player, yet least popular won?

On August 23 2011 01:47 Xahhk wrote:


Toss already knows they can win if they pull out some cheese rush.. the point is that the attack is difficult to fight even when scouted and the guy is preparing it for it 5 minutes in advance. Also gets 2 tries at where other races can only realistically perform one strong all-in.

So I think I've got a grasp of the top posts in this thread:

Carrier posts
templar posts
1 base cheese
1 base collossus
base race with warp prism

Could everyone from now on refrain from suggesting the above strategies, as they've already been suggested and internalized by every protoss player in here.

On August 23 2011 01:46 Yaotzin wrote:
Woohoo? Yes, 1/1/1 doesn't win every single game its ever used in. That doesn't somehow mean it isn't broken. DTs against it? No idea how white-ra won with that because a 1-1-1 is like the best possible counter to DTs.

On August 23 2011 01:17 Chronald wrote:


Doesn't this just end the thread?

None of the people posting here have NEARLY the level of understanding and skill that MC does.

On August 23 2011 01:53 jinixxx123 wrote:



cant have 1 raven in 2 places now can u? especially with warp prisim, im glad whitera loves warp prisms, hes the only toss that uses it to great success.

On August 23 2011 01:47 Xahhk wrote:


Toss already knows they can win if they pull out some cheese rush.. the point is that the attack is difficult to fight even when scouted and the guy is preparing it for it 5 minutes in advance. Also gets 2 tries at where other races can only realistically perform one strong all-in.

So I think I've got a grasp of the top posts in this thread:

Carrier posts
templar posts
1 base cheese
1 base collossus
base race with warp prism
Cannons and stargate first

Could everyone from now on refrain from suggesting the above strategies, as they've already been suggested and internalized by every protoss player in here.

On August 23 2011 01:54 beeehappy wrote:



I agree with MC I think protoss just need a cheap aoe unit. Terran has hellions, zerg has banlings. Both of those are big counters to marines, protoss's hard counter to marines seems to be collusus which is one of protoss's best overall units and takes a long time to get. Seems sort of unfair for protoss.