Designated Balance Discussion Thread - Page 823

On December 10 2013 03:09 TeeTS wrote:


2rax Marine/Marauder pressure was a thing in WoL, could end games, could be a strong pressure, could transition into normal games, could fail hard. We had some pre stim marine pressures to kill sentries and so on. Protoss had to be scared of 1base allins and tank based 2base pushes. There was a large variety of what you could do with terran early on. Hell, even Banshee openers where a thing! Now you have nothing. Widow mine drops... I see them over and over again, but all they seem to do is, getting defended with no problem and then maybe making the protoss to be overconfident.
Widow mines don´t even kill that many probes anymore, if they go off in a mineral line.

On December 10 2013 03:42 Ana_ wrote:


So basicly, match-up has turned upside down? Hopefully there can be middle ground somewhere...

On December 10 2013 04:11 Snusmumriken wrote:


No. No no no no no. Protoss has always had one base plays availible, the difference now is that terran has none and that the protoss one base allins are now no longer allins but early game pressures.

On December 07 2013 21:12 Ghanburighan wrote:
Remember that I wrote that Asus Rog NorthCon would be unrepresentative because it's a clearly T favoured tournament with Inno, MMA and Jjakji (and the best foreign T, lol).

Well, scratch that. MMA and Jjakji go out to foreigners. Inno loses to Life but still makes it to the Ro8. Lucifron once again didn't pick up a map. I'm getting late 2012 shudders.

Although, the stats are a bit silly to do. The win percentages show foreigners zergs and Protosses slightly ahead against mostly Korean terrans. There just aren't enough foreign T left to show much. Lucifron and Wulfen were at Asus and contributed 6 map losses to the statistics.

Another silly thing is that Inno might still win the tournament because it's bloody Innovation, imo the best player in the world (at worst, 3rd Terran in the world) and people will turn around and say that the game is fine, despite the overall picture.

On December 10 2013 04:28 Wingblade wrote:


Protoss didn't have much in the way of viable 1 base options in Wings. Blink + obs as a surprise gimmick on really good blink maps(which results in them being awful macro maps). Void ray all ins if you were Genius(and really only him). And that was about it

On December 10 2013 12:00 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
dat race distribution -_-

soon you will have to modify the scale to represent the amount of P in GM league!

On December 10 2013 12:04 bo1b wrote:
I wish they removed the widow mine nerf, it was getting so exciting to watch tvz with really good zergs and terrans on either side. I somewhat feel that without a new style there won't be another innovation vs drg until lotv unless something changes.

On December 10 2013 12:11 hansonslee wrote:


MMMM is still a very popular composition. Haven't you recently watched JD vs. Innovation in ASUS ROG?

On December 10 2013 12:13 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:


oh my bad, I stand corrected.

On December 10 2013 16:35 Qwerty85 wrote:


Yeah, you know that psionic powers and telepathy. All protoss players drain knowledge and skills from Dear, Rain, Parting, sOs.

Zergs did that through hive mind in WoL.

We just have to find something for terran, technology needs to be invented.

On December 10 2013 11:57 Pirfiktshon wrote:
Iarse whoa don't post facts.... the protoss players will grab their torch and pitchforks to end you.... talk about how you are posting facts that you are stating.... LOLOLOL Sorry I had to <3

These stats are crazy lol showing exactly what i was talking about the representation of the Terran in GM.....

On December 10 2013 18:28 Sabu113 wrote:



What? PvT improved post patch.

On December 10 2013 19:00 Fjodorov wrote:


If we didnt have some of the best terrans in the world taking those wins against foreign protoss at alot of these weekend events it would look very differently.