EPTDesignated Balance Discussion Thread - Page 1237
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EatingBomber
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On December 20 2015 17:50 WrathSCII wrote: I got a better one: Remove Liberator AG Tanks Overkill +10 damage (vs all) +malestorm rounds (+20 damage vs massive single target, splash unaffected) +cost reduce to 150/100/3 +transformation time reduce to 3 seconds from 4 seconds. +Tanks attack speed reduced to 3 from 2.8 TADA Won't be good vs air then, so it won't be good in every situation. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On December 20 2015 18:47 EatingBomber wrote: Can someone, for the love of God, tell me why Reaper grenades were added into the game? Other than providing the most infuriating cheeses in TvT? To provide the most infuriating early game in zvt? | ||
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Xequecal
United States473 Posts
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halomonian
Brazil255 Posts
Mothership core is removed altogether Pylons individually have to research overcharge, tech available at cybernetics core for 100/100 Pylon charges for 10 seconds, 45 second cooldown | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On December 20 2015 22:08 halomonian wrote: Idea: Mothership core is removed altogether Pylons individually have to research overcharge, tech available at cybernetics core for 100/100 Pylon charges for 10 seconds, 45 second cooldown Yes, and overlords can morph in to BL and supply depots in to PF. | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On December 20 2015 22:02 Xequecal wrote: I'm honestly wondering how Protoss is supposed to defend 3 rax proxy reaper cheese if PO is nerfed to, say, 50 energy. Anything less than 3 gates before expanding and you'd just die. Stalker's come from the Gateway try building them from time to time. Also leave MC at home for PO it really helps. | ||
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Sissors
1395 Posts
On December 20 2015 23:12 Topdoller wrote: Stalker's come from the Gateway try building them from time to time. Also leave MC at home for PO it really helps. And lets not forget adepts. Sure they aren't that strong vs reapers, but they also kill them in no time. I stopped even bothering to use reaper scouts vs toss since they simply die so fast. In addition MSc can continiously add its damage (sure it isn't largest damage, but it is risk free), and you still have an overcharge upon it spawning. On December 20 2015 18:47 EatingBomber wrote: Can someone, for the love of God, tell me why Reaper grenades were added into the game? Other than providing the most infuriating cheeses in TvT? That seems obvious to me. It was clear that reapers had no role except early game scouting, and sometimes cheeses in HotS. So a simple solution by Blizzard was adding the grenades, and now they have no role except early game scouting and often cheeses. If this made sense to you, try applying for a job at Blizzard  .In the meantime: Yeah I agree, nothing would be lost by removing those grenades. (And then maybe a *slight* boost in their stats). | ||
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1387 Posts
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MperorM1
90 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On December 21 2015 01:12 MperorM1 wrote: I don't get why they didn't buff cannon, instead of adding a whole new way for protoss to get static defense. Pylon overcharge feels so forced in the game. I believe this is because Toss gateway units are inferior to other races' T1-1.5 units in a straight up engagement. You need upgrades, good simcity and maps that doesn't suck ass. Massive gold maps and massive natural ramps doesn't make it easier without that patchwork mechanic. | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
I said all along. Less whine more play and that is why MMA is winning  GG MMA. I hope terrans learn now. Still need adept nerf ! | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
On December 21 2015 18:25 A_needle_jog wrote: I hope all terrans take a look at MMA play in homestory cup. He easy wins against good zerg players. I said all along. Less whine more play and that is why MMA is winning GG MMA. I hope terrans learn now. Still need adept nerf ! Any comments on PvZ based on HSC ? PvZ 80–130 (38.10%) | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On December 21 2015 18:46 keglu wrote: Any comments on PvZ based on HSC ? PvZ 80–130 (38.10%) please link to source. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On December 21 2015 18:25 A_needle_jog wrote: I hope all terrans take a look at MMA play in homestory cup. He easy wins against good zerg players. I said all along. Less whine more play and that is why MMA is winning GG MMA. I hope terrans learn now. Still need adept nerf ! When Mvp won that IEM against foreigners it also meant that terran isn't UP and people needed to learn to play... | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
http://aligulac.com/results/events/50703-HomeStory-Cup-XII/ | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
Oh it is just the newest Homestory cup I see I see. One tournament not big enough sample size Also the Protoss were really really bad in Homestory cup XII. No good Protoss. If herO homestory cup then herO win and protoss winrate much higher Protoss so bad in homestory that even Rotterdam play. He is commentator and no progamer !!!!! Nice try to trick me. Next tournament when good protoss the win rate go up | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
On December 21 2015 18:58 A_needle_jog wrote: Oh it is just the newest Homestory cup I see I see. One tournament not big enough sample size Also the Protoss were really really bad in Homestory cup XII. No good Protoss. If herO homestory cup then herO win and protoss winrate much higher Protoss so bad in homestory that even Rotterdam play. He is commentator and no progamer !!!!! Nice try to trick me. Next tournament when good protoss the win rate go up You just used the same small sample size to argue TvZ is ok, weird. Another links for you if ypu want bigger sample size http://aligulac.com/periods/latest/ http://aligulac.com/periods/151/ http://aligulac.com/periods/150/ | ||
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Sissors
1395 Posts
On December 21 2015 19:04 keglu wrote: You just used the same small sample size to argue TvZ is ok, weird. Another links for you if ypu want bigger sample size http://aligulac.com/periods/latest/ http://aligulac.com/periods/151/ http://aligulac.com/periods/150/ Regardless of win rate, I think something else is at least as interesting from those stats: 50% of the mirror matches are ZvZ. Of course maybe stuff will get figured out, and the meta changes, but for now Zerg is by far most popular race. And somehow I doubt that is because everyone like playing with bugs. | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On December 21 2015 19:04 keglu wrote: You just used the same small sample size to argue TvZ is ok, weird. Another links for you if ypu want bigger sample size http://aligulac.com/periods/latest/ http://aligulac.com/periods/151/ http://aligulac.com/periods/150/ All say Terran leading race ! Like I said ! Protoss a bit weak. They need to step up game and train harder Bisu need to start SC2 so he can show people how to play good ! | ||
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