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On August 14 2011 23:43 Pudge_172 wrote:
Why do we have to have GSL?
I'm pretty damn sure that the NA and EU teams can handle all the really good Koreans and pay them much better.
The main reason the GSL is a premier tournament all around is simply because it has a higher prizepool then any other tournament. 1 single season of GSL has more prizemoney then any other event, and they have 7-8 tournaments a year. Probably adds up to around a million USD a year.
Nothing in the west (in terms of organised tournaments) comes close to that. The GSL simply allows some measure of financial stability for the players once they obtain code S.
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IMO, we need a KESPA-like organization in SC2. Looking at how unorganized the Korean scene is (And the foreign scene be hardly be called organized), we need a Kespa telling everybody the rules and not letting every team or player do what they want to do.
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anyone starting to think this why koreans are looking for more foreign tourneys?
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This is extremely disappointing to hear. I hope there has been some form of miscommunication, or the representative went rogue or something odd like that. Until I hear more about the situation I loathe to jump to any conclusions surrounding sc2con or any other teams or managers. Although I must say that the recent dramatic events surrounding so many players and teams is extremely disheartening to hear about.
Thanks to all the other organisations, players, movers and shakers that understand how to conduct business in a professional manner, and continue to give E-Sports a good name.
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I support FXO. Transparency is vital.
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Not shocking at all, Kespa was practically the mob, many players were treated more like slaves then people. Requiring players ridiculous amounts of commitments to their teams with no contracts and in many occasions very little pay.
Not shocked at all that sc2con has gone the same route....this is what happens when an organization that's suppose to look out for esports and the players is run by TV companies and team managers.
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I cant believe were seeing another kespa taking over.
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On August 15 2011 00:06 Kalent wrote:
IMO, we need a KESPA-like organization in SC2. Looking at how unorganized the Korean scene is (And the foreign scene be hardly be called organized), we need a Kespa telling everybody the rules and not letting every team or player do what they want to do.
ok but that can only be taken so far. You still have to treat human beings acceptably, kepsa treated players like slaves. An organization that keeps things organized is great, but player treatment is just as important as well.
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On August 15 2011 00:06 Kalent wrote:
IMO, we need a KESPA-like organization in SC2. Looking at how unorganized the Korean scene is (And the foreign scene be hardly be called organized), we need a Kespa telling everybody the rules and not letting every team or player do what they want to do.
I'm afraid I will have to disagree with you.
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Do you people have any proof of Kespa running a slave-run system, or do you just like to talk out of your ass? Sure, code B players just gained very little money, or just got food and shelter, but well, it is still better than nothing like in SC2. As a side note, do you people really believe a Lzgamer at EG wions as much money as Idra? Or Naniwa and dKiller? Newsflash: top players win a lot of money, average player win less. This is as true in Korean broodwar than in foreign SC2 teams.
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On August 14 2011 14:05 DarkDolphin wrote:
You gotta do what you gotta do, Starcraft 2 is no longer "Just Korea" , if that was the case we would be run by the Evil Empire ( Kespa ) Good Job FXO.
-SC2CON = Evil Empire.
-FXO = Rebel Alliance :D
- On a more serious note, i believe the International teams, FXO, TL;, EG dignitas etc etc, Should start thinking of creating an organization, SC2CON / KESPA are not acceptable SC2 is not just Korea, we are no longer in Broodwar , in the times where the Evil Empire ruled the Kuprulu Sector.
-however something like SC2CON is needed but should not be exclusive or just Korea, such thing is unacceptable, GJ FXOBOSS. :D
-PS. : I officially declare SC2CON "EVIL EMPIRE" from now on.
I say we declare SC2CON "the Terran Dominion" (Makes sense because most Korean professionals play Terran) and FXO "Raynor's Raiders" to be honest.
But on a more serious note, I think SC2CON is beginning to behave more like KeSPA by the minute.
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Once again a bad move by korean SC2 KeSpa 2 here we come....
this is bad
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On August 14 2011 23:39 sashamunguia wrote:
"organization" is misspelled on the thread's name
American much?
on topic, sounds like there is good opportunity for an international governing body to develop for sc2 that Korea can buy into - would be nice to avoid the us v them...
Korea may have the star players, but us/europe has the big LAN events that are easier to commercialise - they will keep running regardless of whether the Koreans do / don't show...
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FXO: Would it be too much to ask why sC to does not wish to be in NASL?
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I'm actually kind of glad stuff like this is happening. The reason Kespa gets so much hate is they were the IT organization in bw and there was nothing anyone could do about it. In Sc2, the scene is actually bigger in NA and EU. If they treat their players like crap they will just join a foreign team and the problem will be solved. I pray there isn't an internation Sc2 organization formed. I would much prefer to just let the cream rise to the top and let the players decide for themselves instead of one governing body making decisions for them.
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That organization is a joke, good for you pulling out.
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On August 15 2011 00:06 Kalent wrote:
IMO, we need a KESPA-like organization in SC2. Looking at how unorganized the Korean scene is (And the foreign scene be hardly be called organized), we need a Kespa telling everybody the rules and not letting every team or player do what they want to do.
That's basically asking "Oh please, force your rules upon me and threaten me when i don't obey".
KeSPA was retarded and we don't need them in SC2 either.
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This is just sad. SC2CON is starting to reek of..... well, shit.
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On August 14 2011 14:05 magnaflow wrote:
I'm thinking Blizzard may need to step in here. Is there anything they can do??
They can add some rocks.
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How is the korean scene handling this? Who is the "bad boys" in their eyes? FXO or SC2con? And thanks BoSs, it takes balls being an hard-ass like that! Keep up the great work for FXO and E-Sports!
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