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P3rry777
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada4 Posts
August 14 2011 16:24 GMT
#541
That's Sheisty
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
August 14 2011 16:25 GMT
#542
Huge respect for Boss and FXO standing up to "the man" and doing what's right - with unusual yet appreciated transparency to boot.

Don't let SC2con bully players and teams around like Kespa does in BW. This might work in BW since it's Korea only and the system has been built from the ground up to accept Kespa's mob-like authority and control, but not so in SC2.


I believe this is a good wake-up call for them and they will be forced to return to the negotiating table much humbler the next time around.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
August 14 2011 16:38 GMT
#543
Reading the OP I can't gather anything. So wtf is this? Not that I care for FXO much.
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GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
August 14 2011 16:49 GMT
#544
On August 15 2011 01:38 Zhiroo wrote:
Reading the OP I can't gather anything. So wtf is this? Not that I care for FXO much.


the original post was removed, basically sc2con has a problem with the name and logo of FXO and wanted them to change it using blackmail and threats thats what i can remember from it. Not to mention the stress cause by sc2con for the fxo players.
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bovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Japan208 Posts
August 14 2011 17:12 GMT
#545
you maybe the boss of FXO, but you're acting like the boss of sc2 korea. not good.

giving sc2con a chance? you're just 1 team manager out of all the others around.

seems pretty immature to complain publicly on the internet about blackmails and insults from a single rep w/o talking it over with sc2con heads. if you've decided to air it then stick to your guns, if you're wrong for airing it all prematurely then man up and apologise instead of trying to seem high and mighty.



darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 17:31:51
August 14 2011 17:27 GMT
#546
Kespa made alot of douchebag moves, but at least they were mostly upfront and legal about their doucheness. They released statements, laid out rules, drew up contracts etc SC2con is more shady, making the same or worse moves but doing it behind closed doors and being secretive about it, trying to blackmail, coerce and intimidate, really pathetic. I hope they get shut down.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 17:36:03
August 14 2011 17:35 GMT
#547
I dont know if this was talked about in the thread (I havent read all 28 pages yet), but did FXO join sc2con when they bought fou or were they in it because they were in Korea competing in the GSTL? Is there anything STOPPING other nonkorean teams from joining sc2con or has it just not happened yet?
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
August 14 2011 17:48 GMT
#548
On August 14 2011 14:09 HolyArrow wrote:
One thing I'm really confused about is: Who is actually governing sc2con? Are coaches/managers of various teams in on it? Who is actually in charge? For a body like sc2con, it seems like there should be some transparency, no? First I was pretty neutral toward sc2con but with direct testimony from the FXO manager himself, it seems like it's being run by some asshole(s) on a power trip. Blackmail? Insults? Seriously? I am feeling pretty disappointed and disgusted right now.


IMJunwi is the president of SC2Con. Apart from that, I don't know who the other members are, but quite a few are active progamers.
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denzelz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States604 Posts
August 14 2011 17:54 GMT
#549
SC2Con only needed to exist because of stuff like the EG-Puma incident. Still, it's a little weird for an organization to threaten another prominent team in Korea.
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
August 14 2011 17:58 GMT
#550
Heres the old news post of basic info about SC2Con for anyone interested, however this is old so there are probably a few changes
On November 16 2010 17:20 Selith wrote:
Source:

This upcoming 17th, there will be an official establishment of StarCraft 2 association as well as an orientation at GomTV studio. It will involve 7 teams that are currently participating in GSL, plus their coaches and players.

The association will include teams StarTale, Prime, oGs, TSL, fOu, ZeNEX, and IM, their coaches and their players. In addition, there will be StarCraft 2 game team association, players association, and an advisory board.

The first president will be Won Jeong Uk, currently the coach of StarTale, and the advisory committee will be managed by GomTV e-sports business management and an editor from a famous e-sports specialized webzine.

Also, the commissioners will be TSL's Lee Un Jae coach, Prime's Park Wae Sik coach, oGs Park Sang Ik coach, fOu Kim Tae Yeup manager, ZeNEX Yun Hee Won coach, and IM Kang Dong Hoon coach. As for the commissioner for the players association, one will be selected through gamers voting in sometime in January 2011.
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WhatsForDinner
Profile Joined June 2011
United States9 Posts
August 14 2011 18:08 GMT
#551
On August 15 2011 02:48 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 14:09 HolyArrow wrote:
One thing I'm really confused about is: Who is actually governing sc2con? Are coaches/managers of various teams in on it? Who is actually in charge? For a body like sc2con, it seems like there should be some transparency, no? First I was pretty neutral toward sc2con but with direct testimony from the FXO manager himself, it seems like it's being run by some asshole(s) on a power trip. Blackmail? Insults? Seriously? I am feeling pretty disappointed and disgusted right now.


IMJunwi is the president of SC2Con. Apart from that, I don't know who the other members are, but quite a few are active progamers.


From what I understand, Junwi is not the president of the SC2Con (and one of the posts above me says the president is the ST coach).

Junwi was only voted as the head of the Players' Association.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18860 Posts
August 14 2011 18:11 GMT
#552
On August 15 2011 02:48 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 14:09 HolyArrow wrote:
One thing I'm really confused about is: Who is actually governing sc2con? Are coaches/managers of various teams in on it? Who is actually in charge? For a body like sc2con, it seems like there should be some transparency, no? First I was pretty neutral toward sc2con but with direct testimony from the FXO manager himself, it seems like it's being run by some asshole(s) on a power trip. Blackmail? Insults? Seriously? I am feeling pretty disappointed and disgusted right now.


IMJunwi is the president of SC2Con. Apart from that, I don't know who the other members are, but quite a few are active progamers.

Wrong, he is the president of the players association.
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
August 14 2011 18:14 GMT
#553
On August 14 2011 14:05 DarkDolphin wrote:
You gotta do what you gotta do, Starcraft 2 is no longer "Just Korea" , if that was the case we would be run by the Evil Empire ( Kespa ) Good Job FXO.

-SC2CON = Evil Empire.

-FXO = Rebel Alliance :D

- On a more serious note, i believe the International teams, FXO, TL;, EG dignitas etc etc, Should start thinking of creating an organization, SC2CON / KESPA are not acceptable SC2 is not just Korea, we are no longer in Broodwar , in the times where the Evil Empire ruled the Kuprulu Sector.

-however something like SC2CON is needed but should not be exclusive or just Korea, such thing is unacceptable, GJ FXOBOSS. :D

-PS. : I officially declare SC2CON "EVIL EMPIRE" from now on.



Yeah why Cant Foreign teams create a different body? I didnt follow BW, but it does seem that Sc2 is much more worldwide than BW
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XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 18:36:25
August 14 2011 18:34 GMT
#554
I quoted someone saying Sc2Con Was Kespa 2.0 ; in the Koreans pull out of NASL 2 Thread Many people didn't want to listen.

Now they may change their minds
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 14 2011 18:41 GMT
#555
On August 15 2011 03:14 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 14:05 DarkDolphin wrote:
You gotta do what you gotta do, Starcraft 2 is no longer "Just Korea" , if that was the case we would be run by the Evil Empire ( Kespa ) Good Job FXO.

-SC2CON = Evil Empire.

-FXO = Rebel Alliance :D

- On a more serious note, i believe the International teams, FXO, TL;, EG dignitas etc etc, Should start thinking of creating an organization, SC2CON / KESPA are not acceptable SC2 is not just Korea, we are no longer in Broodwar , in the times where the Evil Empire ruled the Kuprulu Sector.

-however something like SC2CON is needed but should not be exclusive or just Korea, such thing is unacceptable, GJ FXOBOSS. :D

-PS. : I officially declare SC2CON "EVIL EMPIRE" from now on.



Yeah why Cant Foreign teams create a different body? I didnt follow BW, but it does seem that Sc2 is much more worldwide than BW


Because we dont' see a need for one.
Drizzt3
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States189 Posts
August 14 2011 18:43 GMT
#556
Why is there a new problem with sc2con in Korea every time I load up this site?
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 14 2011 19:32 GMT
#557
I don't think you should release something like this when everything isn't clear. Too many misunderstandings already and all it does is just put a bad face on sc2con when you're still not completely sure of the situation yourself.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 14 2011 19:39 GMT
#558
On August 15 2011 02:54 denzelz wrote:
SC2Con only needed to exist because of stuff like the EG-Puma incident. Still, it's a little weird for an organization to threaten another prominent team in Korea.

No organization would be able to stop that "incident" because it's legal and completely allowed. Odd choice for an example.
EvilDoer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States13 Posts
August 14 2011 19:41 GMT
#559
On August 15 2011 04:32 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I don't think you should release something like this when everything isn't clear. Too many misunderstandings already and all it does is just put a bad face on sc2con when you're still not completely sure of the situation yourself.



This happens in any walk of life friend. It's publicity -- Tabloids, movies, electronics, there is always something that isn't quite clear but it's brought to attention.
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
August 14 2011 19:48 GMT
#560
damn crazy stuff happening over there in korea
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