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AngelusDeLetum
United States98 Posts
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Slider954
United States342 Posts
On August 15 2011 07:42 WizShaw wrote: Yeah, I dont know why I put SC in front of there. I think it was automatic. Anyways, well, Leenoc is young man. An up and comer and he destroys terran. His decision making and other matches could be better, but in a way he has also got a raw deal having really tough opponents. But, I can see him really becoming great. They also have Choya, which, owned it up at the last MLG. On the FXO side, well, sheth is awesome, cant really say anything bad about that guy. But Moonglade I think is overrated and probably should have left the team. Um you do realize that both Sheth and Moonglade are no longer with FXO, right? In fact Sheth is a member of Team Liquid, I think TL might have put up a little post about that around here somewhere..... | ||
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WizShaw
Canada107 Posts
On August 15 2011 08:18 Slider954 wrote: Um you do realize that both Sheth and Moonglade are no longer with FXO, right? In fact Sheth is a member of Team Liquid, I think TL might have put up a little post about that around here somewhere..... I meant in retrospect, and I was speaking about the players in general. | ||
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Herry
England681 Posts
I BET you its nothing. Why is it neccearry for everyone to have a go at S2con? All they are trying to do is unify the teams in terms of decisions. If you have a problem with one person, deal with that one person, don't go and vilify an entire organisation becuase you got upset. Leave the conference by all means but all you did was just throw threats of public defamation right back at them. really good for business. | ||
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BLCabeldank
United States99 Posts
On August 15 2011 08:18 Slider954 wrote: Um you do realize that both Sheth and Moonglade are no longer with FXO, right? In fact Sheth is a member of Team Liquid, I think TL might have put up a little post about that around here somewhere..... or maybe it was the blue shirt that said TLAF-Liquid that Sheth was wearing at Anaheim? just maybe | ||
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
On August 14 2011 14:14 ketomai wrote: What are the major benefits of staying in sc2con at the moment anyways? Seems like there's only baggage atm :p. Good job Boss, big fan of what you're doing as always. That is what I'm wondering as well. From what I understand exclusion from S2con has no affect on being able to play GOM leagues, so why even join it? All it seems to do is put additional restrictions on teams. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
On August 14 2011 14:03 proxima_ wrote: wow, things are getting shaky over there in kr New battle grounds for a video game. More and newer money to be earned, so there will obviously be things like this taking place. Kespa isn't clean either, but they're there. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
And FXO has always seem like a good organization to me, and I like the way boss has represented himself here. | ||
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TurbineBlade
United States117 Posts
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oxxo
988 Posts
On August 15 2011 10:55 ExO_ wrote: There is an interesting amount of support for the Koreans here on TL, on recent issues (mostly basing this on the threads on: EG/Puma, koreans leaving NASL , this thread). While I definitely wouldn't assume they are guilty straight away, I wouldn't assume that just because they are Koreans means they are always right and the west is out to screw them. And FXO has always seem like a good organization to me, and I like the way boss has represented himself here. There's support because the foreigner scene has either been extremely vague like this instance, or extremely unprofessional like the EG/Puma thing and now the NASL. The foreigner scene, if it is serious about wanting to grow, needs to learn how to act like professionals (this isn't like streaming, you can't just say/do whatever you want), and/or hire PR people. EDIT: But yes, I'd agree FXO has been a good organization. | ||
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TheGiftedApe
United States1243 Posts
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Saraf
United States160 Posts
On August 15 2011 12:35 oxxo wrote: There's support because the foreigner scene has either been extremely vague like this instance, or extremely unprofessional like the EG/Puma thing and now the NASL. The foreigner scene, if it is serious about wanting to grow, needs to learn how to act like professionals (this isn't like streaming, you can't just say/do whatever you want), and/or hire PR people. EDIT: But yes, I'd agree FXO has been a good organization. BoSs's post was originally a lot more explicit; it's been edited back in the interests of salvaging relations since now s2con wants to talk things out with FXO (whereas before the one causing the troubles had not contacted BoSs after Choya specifically told them to). There are too many people (read: any) in this thread thinking that FXO is just jumping on the "bash s2con" bandwagon or that this has anything to do with NASL (they're not and it doesn't). Obviously the post got s2con's attention and that's good enough for now. | ||
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MadNeSs
Denmark1507 Posts
On August 15 2011 10:46 MangoTango wrote: ...What exactly is sc2con? | ||
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Venomsflame
United States613 Posts
On August 15 2011 12:55 Saraf wrote: BoSs's post was originally a lot more explicit; it's been edited back in the interests of salvaging relations since now s2con wants to talk things out with FXO (whereas before the one causing the troubles had not contacted BoSs after Choya specifically told them to). There are too many people (read: any) in this thread thinking that FXO is just jumping on the "bash s2con" bandwagon or that this has anything to do with NASL (they're not and it doesn't). Obviously the post got s2con's attention and that's good enough for now. Yeah I just tuned in to this thread and I figured as much. The early pages are all "FXO WOOO" and the later ones all turn to Korean support so I figured the original post explained much more. Instead of making any judgements on zero information I'm going to wait until I actually know what's happening, hope something pops up soon! | ||
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Space Invader
Australia291 Posts
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
On August 15 2011 14:48 Space Invader wrote: why would you make this public before talking to them properly first... Because: On August 15 2011 12:55 Saraf wrote:BoSs's post was originally a lot more explicit; it's been edited back in the interests of salvaging relations since now s2con wants to talk things out with FXO (whereas before the one causing the troubles had not contacted BoSs after Choya specifically told them to). There are too many people (read: any) in this thread thinking that FXO is just jumping on the "bash s2con" bandwagon or that this has anything to do with NASL (they're not and it doesn't). Obviously the post got s2con's attention and that's good enough for now. Please at least read the page you're posting on -.- Boss couldn't get into contact with the person in question, so he withdrew from SC2Con and made a post explaining the situation here; that got the guy's attention and they arranged a meeting, so Boss changed the OP so that he could hear the guy's side of the story first. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10939 Posts
On August 15 2011 12:35 oxxo wrote: There's support because the foreigner scene has either been extremely vague like this instance, or extremely unprofessional like the EG/Puma thing and now the NASL. The foreigner scene, if it is serious about wanting to grow, needs to learn how to act like professionals (this isn't like streaming, you can't just say/do whatever you want), and/or hire PR people. EDIT: But yes, I'd agree FXO has been a good organization. And how is the Korean scene in any way professional (except Gom/GSL)? They seem not to be able/willing to pay even rather small amounts to send their players abroad. They seem not to be able to organise a fucking hotel room for their players (or/and) read contracts and therefore don't do it. They seemed not to be able to put their players under contract and after that act all whiney when someone takes a player from them (which still isn't nice but perfectly legitimate from a proffessional standpoint). . . Seriously, how would you as a "professional" company deal with organisations like the Korean teams which, as it seems to me, have like no interest to pay anything and rather just sit convenient in seoul in their own little microcosmos waiting for some invites which pay them for nearly all their expenses.... | ||
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SC2Epic
United States25 Posts
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