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On August 15 2011 14:48 Space Invader wrote: why would you make this public before talking to them properly first...
Because that guy didn't want to talk to FXOBoss - he only wanted to communicate through Choya. This announcement did get their attention.
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Things are getting a little crazy over there in korea regarding S2con =/
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I am sorry if someone already have asked but what is going to happen to the former fOu players? Are they forced to follow FXO because of thiere finnancial situation? And I know it sounds bad when I say it like that.
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There is so much drama going on in SC2 now, I think I'll wait for the movie version.
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Looks like since Koreans have 0 money they are trying to impose total control of the scene. Too bad they cant even afford flight tickets...
Go FXO.
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I have a lot of respect for FXOBoss. He's really stirring up the Korean scene with decisions like this - it's just what we need! A revolution is coming!
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i thnk this is another glaring reason why Unions and Play Association shouldnt be allowed into E-Sports they ruin the industry. In the pat couple of week this has looked so bad for the e-sports community. with TSL and now this. WTF is going on????
are they trying to muscle profits from teams or something?
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On August 15 2011 22:41 Vindubs wrote: i thnk this is another glaring reason why Unions and Play Association shouldnt be allowed into E-Sports they ruin the industry. In the pat couple of week this has looked so bad for the e-sports community. with TSL and now this. WTF is going on????
are they trying to muscle profits from teams or something?
This has nothing to do with unions. Unions are needed to protect the rights of those who can't take on big corporations by themselves.
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Any news since the OP ? People are talking about Choya and all but I don't know what it is about TT.
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On August 16 2011 00:02 MrCon wrote: Any news since the OP ? People are talking about Choya and all but I don't know what it is about TT. The choya mentions are coming from the original OP which detailed the threats/pressure from a certain SC2con representative towards choya and FXO.
There's been no news since then, and there won't be until Boss and SC2con have met at the negotiation table.
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On August 16 2011 00:27 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 00:02 MrCon wrote: Any news since the OP ? People are talking about Choya and all but I don't know what it is about TT. The choya mentions are coming from the original OP which detailed the threats/pressure from a certain SC2con representative towards choya and FXO. There's been no news since then, and there won't be until Boss and SC2con have met at the negotiation table. I read the thread at 10x speed, iiuc the problem is FXO wanted to rename FOU to FXO and sc2con are trying to prevent that ?
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On August 16 2011 00:29 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 00:27 Bobster wrote:On August 16 2011 00:02 MrCon wrote: Any news since the OP ? People are talking about Choya and all but I don't know what it is about TT. The choya mentions are coming from the original OP which detailed the threats/pressure from a certain SC2con representative towards choya and FXO. There's been no news since then, and there won't be until Boss and SC2con have met at the negotiation table. I read the thread at 10x speed, iiuc the problem is FXO wanted to rename FOU to FXO and sc2con are trying to prevent that ? SC2con wanted to meddle in team internal affairs, such as name and logo design, that much was mentioned in the OP. While these were apparently amongst the smaller issues Boss could talk publicly about, it's clear that the representative from SC2con was trying to exert SC2con's (non-existant) influence over Korean teams (via nightly phone calls with insults, threats and blackmail) and FXO is putting their foot down and taking a stand against this.
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On August 16 2011 00:36 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 00:29 MrCon wrote:On August 16 2011 00:27 Bobster wrote:On August 16 2011 00:02 MrCon wrote: Any news since the OP ? People are talking about Choya and all but I don't know what it is about TT. The choya mentions are coming from the original OP which detailed the threats/pressure from a certain SC2con representative towards choya and FXO. There's been no news since then, and there won't be until Boss and SC2con have met at the negotiation table. I read the thread at 10x speed, iiuc the problem is FXO wanted to rename FOU to FXO and sc2con are trying to prevent that ? SC2con wanted to meddle in team internal affairs, such as name and logo design, that much was mentioned in the OP. While these were apparently amongst the smaller issues Boss could talk publicly about, it's clear that the representative from SC2con was trying to exert SC2con's (non-existant) influence over Korean teams (via nightly phone calls with insults, threats and blackmail) and FXO is putting their foot down and taking a stand against this. Ok thanks, as the OP was edited and basically contains nothing now, and no one quoted it, this whole thread is very confusing (as everything related to sc2con but that's another story)
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I think as much as any team FXO have been great representatives for the non-Koreans recently, along with the likes of HuK and Jinro, and I hope that this is something they can get past. The last thign anyone wants is all their hard work in korea to come to nothing because of backstabbing and political maneuvering.
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Why do we need an "S2CON" again? Please tell me it's not so when a player types 2 p's instead of 3 when he needs a pause he gets disqualified.
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All I hear about SC2CON seems to be bad things. Bad things are not good things.
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On August 14 2011 19:10 JayDee_ wrote: It's like "Lord of The Flies" over there. I think the problem is this is all being ran by a bunch of young adults, none of which have extensive experience with business management.
If you're referring to NASL's Management Team, you'd be incorrect.
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This is going to make the GSTL very akward.... to say the least....
A lot of animosity going to be in the Air.
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I hope that the people working inside sc2con can get things under control. I have a feeling that it's not any of the higher level management causing these problems. It looks like there's not enough internal protocol about how things need to be dealt with, such as communication between team management and sc2con, and the people doing the communicating are not being monitored well enough. It's sad to see this kind of drama because it can only hurt e-sports. Hopefully they get things under control and resolved properly.
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