EPTKorean teams withdraw from NASL - Page 20
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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b0lt
United States790 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:06 NASL.tv wrote: In preparation for Season 2, it was made known to us by Mr.Chae of the GSL that the Korean teams threatened to withdraw from the NASL unless several demands were made: 1) pay for 100% of travel and accommodation cost for the Grand Finals and 2) remove the security deposit. The concerns of the Korean teams, as expressed to us by Mr.Chae were that it is difficult for Koreans to travel to the USA given their generally lower level of sponsorship, and secondly that they don’t think Koreans should have to pay to enter the event [despite the fact that we refund all security deposits, making the league free to play barring any penalties]. In an effort to try to ease the difficulty of travel, we managed to double our travel budget to $1,000 per player in addition to the minimum prize of $500. Unfortunately, we were notified August 9th (our 2nd day of filming) that this offer was unacceptable, and that Koreans were withdrawing from the league. We presented a final offer, one which redistributed our prize pool to guarantee each player $2,000 (a $1,000 minimum prize in addition to the $1,000 travel stipend). We feel that, for a 1/16 chance at winning up to $40,000, $2,000 is more than fair accommodation expense to get players to come. Despite our best efforts, the Korean teams still have declined participation. We are disappointed that the Korean Committee waited until the final hour, not only to make these demands but also to notify us of their withdrawal. We would like to apologize to our fans who wanted to see these players participate in the NASL and to the Korean players who hoped to participate. While we do respect the Committee’s decision, we wish it had been made in a more timely manner that did not interrupt the start of our season. ? The Korean teams made demands and threatened to withdraw some time before season 2 and NASL did not satisfy the demands. How is that them waiting until the last hour to make demands and withdraw? | ||
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GetToDaChopa
United States206 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:26 Waxangel wrote: Why is Mr.Chae the SC2Con's mouthpiece here o_O? I think GomTV has a seat there as an advisory role, but I thought sc2con would take care of something this big by themselves =o I find it unsettling too that he's speaking for all of these teams. Can't they speak for themselves individually? | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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Antyok
Chile3 Posts
I hope they don't just coun't them as a non-show. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:50 NASL.tv wrote: We already set the precedent for this in Season 1. We bought tickets for MC, Zenio, PuMa, Squirtle with the deal that we'd subtract it from their prize money. We actually lost money on Zenio because he lost in the first round. We have already proven our determination in making sure Koreans make it to the event. So what's the real issue then? Is it the security deposit? It doesn't seem like Sc2CON wants too much more than what you're offering with regard to travel costs. | ||
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Heraklitus
United States553 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:50 fellcrow wrote: Can someone from NASL answer this? The contract part is what I wanna know. Enforce the damn contract. From a business perspective, I would try to make them hold their end of the bargain. It is only fair... and the law? I doubt it was anything enforceable like this, it being across two countries makes it even more complicated, but I was just trying to illustrate the spirit of what they did. Still. . . I would also be curious as to the nature of these contracts / agreements. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:51 b0lt wrote: ? The Korean teams made demands and threatened to withdraw some time before season 2 and NASL did not satisfy the demands. How is that them waiting until the last hour to make demands and withdraw? I bolded another part for you. | ||
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Galleon.frigate
Canada721 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:34 NASL.tv wrote: I can answer this question. We paid for Korean players to come to NASL Season 1. We bought tickets for MC, PuMa, Zenio, and Squirtle. We paid $1,192 for each ticket. The hotel cost was $353 for the entire event. Travel cost was about $80 per person (shuttle service to and from). This averages out about $1650, factoring in meals ($50 per day even) ... giving each player $2,000 should cover that. Hold, if I read correctly... the major points of contention were travel costs and deposit NASL offered enough to reasonably cover travel soo..... the SC2CON dropped out because of the deposit? or they just didn't agree this was enough for travel? | ||
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StUfF
Australia1437 Posts
It's $1000 dollar minimum prize money and a $1000 dollar stipend. Assuming you bomb out in a single elimination bracket in the first round, they just put in 9+ worth of Bo3s at uncomfortable times and a trip to US pretty much nothing. Also player prizemoney does not go towards teams, so teams will still be paying out of pocket for travel/accomodation still. I don't think it's unreasonable to increase to supply travel/accomodation for all players when they've provided games for NASL for the whole league portion of the system. | ||
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OnFiRe888
United States629 Posts
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
I don't mind though, would be cool to see some foreigners have a chance in an foreign event for once  | ||
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Alexl
288 Posts
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sertman
United States540 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:50 NASL.tv wrote: We already set the precedent for this in Season 1. We bought tickets for MC, Zenio, PuMa, Squirtle with the deal that we'd subtract it from their prize money. We actually lost money on Zenio because he lost in the first round. We have already proven our determination in making sure Koreans make it to the event. Just a thought here, but perhaps they felt that the quality of your event wasn't high enough to justify flying their players over. Which explains why they partner with MLG, because they actually give a shit about something other than stroking their own egos. | ||
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Soft`Soap
Canada865 Posts
You said that it would cost players under 2000 dollars to fly there why not book the flight and accommodations yourselves? and then remove the deposit i really don't know your numbers but wouldn't that be a better decision as i'm sure you guys will lose a lot of viewers? | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:53 OnFiRe888 wrote: wait a minute boxer is part of slayers and not apart of sc2con, what's gonna happen with him? He already dropped out for his own personal reasons. For people asking about Nada and SK gaming, he already dropped out prior to this so there's no chance he'll be competing either. | ||
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fellcrow
United States288 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:52 OldManZerg wrote: I doubt it was anything enforceable like this, it being across two countries makes it even more complicated, but I was just trying to illustrate the spirit of what they did. Still. . . I would also be curious as to the nature of these contracts / agreements. Why in the FUCK are you signing a contract in the first place if it isn't enforceable. That negates the entire point of a contract... If it is actually a contract, SUE THEM! | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:54 Alexl wrote: Am I the only one thinking the "reove the security deposit" part was because koreans decided they would screw teh viewers and pretty much stop playing their matchs when they wanted to? (when they were sure to qualify for example) Like many of the non korean players did? | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:53 OnFiRe888 wrote: wait a minute boxer is part of slayers and not apart of sc2con, what's gonna happen with him? he's out too, was confirmed somewhere in this thread | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:54 Alexl wrote: Am I the only one thinking the "reove the security deposit" part was because koreans decided they would screw teh viewers and pretty much stop playing their matchs when they wanted to? (when they were sure to qualify for example) The Koreans played every single match in Season 1, something that foreigner can't even come close to saying. | ||
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