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I'm really glad NASL handled the situation so well, that was really dirty of the sc2con to make these bullshit claims at the last minute, and then to refuse even with the extreme generosity NASL offered them (I don't understand why people are still saying that NASL wasn't giving enough money when the OP clearly explained that the $2000 was more than enough to cover it). Well, I know I'll still watch this season.Korean teams withdraw from NASL - Page 17
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Gorlin
United States2753 Posts
I'm really glad NASL handled the situation so well, that was really dirty of the sc2con to make these bullshit claims at the last minute, and then to refuse even with the extreme generosity NASL offered them (I don't understand why people are still saying that NASL wasn't giving enough money when the OP clearly explained that the $2000 was more than enough to cover it). Well, I know I'll still watch this season. | ||
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
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seansye
United States1722 Posts
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RusHXceL
United States1004 Posts
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Baituri
Netherlands1501 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:42 MrCon wrote: Yeah...it's exactly like if Thorzain, Jinro, Naniwa and Sase went to Gom studio 2 days ago and said "sorry, you pay us 2000$ each or we don't play and you have no broadcast today, sorry" Seriously, what the hell with this korean association ? Not really the same. Since Thorzain, Naniwa and probably SaSe get a trip to Korea and get 1 month of housing from GSL if I am correct. | ||
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Wipples
Canada269 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:34 Licmyobelisk wrote: lol and make the players strive less.. :| They aren't going to strive if they think they have no chance at the money either. IMO I think this is a good thing, as much as Im dissapointed i dont get to see the top level korean talent, It'd be nice to see foreigners play in a big tournament where they actually have a chance at victory. You can say "they wont try to get better" now, but thats BS because every other big tournament has the korean talent, and the best foreigners are going to be trying to win those as well. We need a foreign tournament where foreigners actually have a good shot at winning to encourage new players to try and go pro, and eventually the pool of foreign talent will grow and get stronger and be able to compete with koreans. As it is, i still think someone from the remaining korean teams is going to win. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:41 masterbreti wrote: Then why not just say to them "we're covering your entire costs," instead of putting a limit on it. Thats rather dumb. you tell the Koreans that you'll cover 2k. they say to you they want you to cover it all. Well if 2k will cover it then tell them that you'll cover it all. seems like really poor thinking on NASL's part. There is some measure of face to keep. NASL should not kowtow to wishes of the Korean teams- it runs its own league, with a damn good prize pool. It should be a mutual interest for participation: the Korean teams get money/fame, and NASL gets revenue off brand name players. However, if NASL goes and pays for every Korean, it seems that the Koreans somehow are more valuable than the tournament itself- that they get their way. So either way, the Koreans probably knew how much money it takes- it would be silly if they came to a decision on an arbitrary number. Therefore, if they knew that 2000$ would cover it, not to mention the fame for the players, the fact the INSISTED on "all expenses paid" was not for more money per se, but a demand for respect or status | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:46 RusHXceL wrote: Now no more "Koreans own white dudes" Dont worry theres still MLG | ||
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tsuxiit
1305 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:43 NASL.tv wrote: What if they request business class, or first class? There has to be a limit, otherwise the demands will go unchecked. Then you say, "you can't upgrade to business class or first class. But we'll cover your travel costs." Was that really the mentality you had when you were negotiating with the Korean teams? | ||
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Tears.Of.The.Moon
Slovenia715 Posts
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ckw
United States1018 Posts
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:45 Horse...falcon wrote: What if individual players within the teams wanted to play and pay their own way? I'm sure someone like Nestea has the funds to play. Nestea previously indicated he's not interested in playing online leagues outside Korea though, so he wouldn't be participating in the actual season. | ||
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doihy
668 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:43 stormchaser wrote: Not really. They are missing out on a massive prize pool. The Western esports crowd cares more about player personality and commentators than skill level. Thank you for speaking on behalf of the whole western esports spectators. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:41 Derez wrote: Hm, this sucks. All of the koreans knew what they were getting into to be honest, and declining this late is just wrong. I mean, if 2k a person doesn't cover the expenses, I can understand that, but that's something they should have considered beforehand. The other issue is that NASL s2 was shaping up to be a lot more interesting then s1, mainly due to the influx of korean players. Now that they're all out, we're going to end up with night upon night of irrelevant low-level matchups. I want to support (and pay for) NASL, but if it's at 'foreigner' (IPL) level, there's no way in hell I'll pay for it. (It does explain why Hero switched to TL tho ;p) Watch GSL? 100% Korean | ||
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:43 NASL.tv wrote: What if they request business class, or first class? There has to be a limit, otherwise the demands will go unchecked. So your saying the Koreans wanted champagne and caviar on the plane? Why not just arrage it yourself. Tell the teams you will have everything ready and will book the flight etc for them. I highly doubt they will demans business class or first class on the plane. Nor run up the hotel bill on kimchi. | ||
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oBlade
United States5672 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:45 red4ce wrote: Well this sucks. Looks like the foreigners-only crowd got their wish in the end. Enjoy your 50k Puma. Don't worry NASL, if it's not in your budget to fly Koreans over then there's nothing that can be done about it. It was said in the thread several times now that 2k$ are actually just enough for the travel... So I really don't get it. Especially making it a last minute decision like that, it has been known from before season 1 that the players/teams must guarantee to be able to commit to the grand finals in case of a qualification. :| On August 12 2011 08:47 masterbreti wrote: So your saying the Koreans wanted champagne and caviar on the plane? Why not just arrage it yourself. Tell the teams you will have everything ready and will book the flight etc for them. I highly doubt they will demans business class or first class on the plane. Nor run up the hotel bill on kimchi. Isn't that exactly what they did the first time? First you want them do it different and now it's ok again? | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 12 2011 08:46 CeriseCherries wrote: There is some measure of face to keep. NASL should not kowtow to wishes of the Korean teams- it runs its own league, with a damn good prize pool. It should be a mutual interest for participation: the Korean teams get money/fame, and NASL gets revenue off brand name players. However, if NASL goes and pays for every Korean, it seems that the Koreans somehow are more valuable than the tournament itself- that they get their way. So either way, the Koreans probably knew how much money it takes- it would be silly if they came to a decision on an arbitrary number. Therefore, if they knew that 2000$ would cover it, not to mention the fame for the players, the fact the INSISTED on "all expenses paid" was not for more money per se, but a demand for respect or status If this is really true it sounds like silly machismo, but it seems like it is in fat the security deposit is a huge problem Korean teams simply can't put up the money for ti atm | ||
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