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Keifru
United States179 Posts
Its like banging my head against a wall dealing with people who take them to be the definitive proof of balance. I will, however, commend him for the efforts he's gone through considering I believe he does this mostly by hand. Its still a pretty big undertaking. | ||
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TheKRoc
United States74 Posts
Edit: Seriously, I read through more of the thread... you are dumb if you think this has anything to do with balance. If anything, this proves that we can't come close to measuring balance; no one race has reached a perfect level of skill or metagame (as proved by the fact that win rates fluctuate regardless of balance) and therefore you cannot measure balance without having that factor in. | ||
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mewbert
United States291 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On August 07 2011 12:30 skrzmark wrote: They need Zealot to start with charge upgraded speed and I think toss would do decent. Decent as in never losing another game to terran? | ||
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
On August 07 2011 12:41 AsianEcksDragon wrote: I don't really think that's the case. It's more like which Terran strategy is fotm and how Zerg and Protoss blind counters it the next month. so what was the strategy in may that zerg and toss blind countered last month? | ||
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Kovaz
Canada233 Posts
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Teim
Australia373 Posts
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skirmisheR
Sweden451 Posts
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TheKRoc
United States74 Posts
On August 07 2011 12:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Decent as in never losing another game to terran? Why even respond to a comment that stupid? It's so clearly ridiculous. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Someone once said if a race has 45% win rate = UP and 55% win rate = OP, can we officially claim something is imba now? | ||
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Giwoon
Korea (South)431 Posts
On August 07 2011 09:56 sickle wrote: Protoss is just so overpowered. yeah it is On August 07 2011 12:54 darkness wrote: It's hilarious because people still claim P is OP, while... you see it's not so OP there. Someone once said if a race has 45% win rate = UP and 55% win rate = OP, can we officially claim something is imba now? not zerg for sure | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On August 07 2011 12:53 bonerificus wrote: Why even respond to a comment that stupid? It's so clearly ridiculous. Indeed. The clear solution is obviously for Stalkers to start with Blink. :D | ||
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Giwoon
Korea (South)431 Posts
On August 07 2011 12:54 HolyArrow wrote: Indeed. The clear solution is obviously for Stalkers to start with Blink. :D are you retarded? the better solution would be to have void rays fully charged no matter what | ||
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pure_protoss
152 Posts
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
On August 07 2011 12:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Decent as in never losing another game to terran? Hi, Jinro. I didn't mean the charge upgrade but the speed increase they get from upgrading charge. I dunno Zealots were so beastly in SCBW but in SC2 they're some joke (tank, instead of DPS). | ||
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TheKRoc
United States74 Posts
On August 07 2011 12:51 Kovaz wrote: I wouldn't put too much stock into the Korean protoss winrates. There's so few of them that it basically comes down to MC having a weak month and all of a sudden the winrate plummets. Watch, if MC goes deep in the next GSL, protoss is going to look so OP. This is true for any race, to a point; those who lead the race in terms of skill and results generally set the tempo for much of that race's players. It's because, to be frank, most people copy the most successful players. | ||
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Teim
Australia373 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On August 07 2011 12:56 skrzmark wrote: Hi, Jinro. I didn't mean the charge upgrade but the speed increase they get from upgrading charge. I dunno Zealots were so beastly in SCBW but in SC2 they're some joke (tank, instead of DPS). Jinro probably understood you. The thing is that even if Zealots started with Charge-level speed it would be pretty broken. You could mass Zealots and marines would be completely and utterly helpless - even with the Zealot's normal speed, kiting with marines early on is barely possible, and the Zealot still gets hits in. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On August 07 2011 12:57 Teim wrote: Ridiculous people already calling for nerfs for TvP. Didn't we learn anything from PvZ? Wait for the metagame to shift. Oh, you mean Terrans waited for the metagame to shift? I thought everyone asked for P nerf. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On August 07 2011 12:57 Teim wrote: Ridiculous people already calling for nerfs for TvP. Didn't we learn anything from PvZ? Wait for the metagame to shift. Yeah, I wish that mindset was used when we got KA taken out of the game following a period of comparable Protoss dominance a while back... -_-;; | ||
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