pretty interesting data... terrans are doing well but it is intesting that tvp in the foreign scene is quite close and tvz is quite close in korea....also i feel bad for korean protos players :'(

tuho12345

4482 Posts

August 07 2011 03:05 GMT

#109

On August 07 2011 11:49 kemsley wrote:
Nerf Mules, Terran should only get them on Thursdays.

Friday actually, all the SCVs are like:"partying,partying YEAH~!"

KimJongChill

United States6429 Posts

August 07 2011 03:06 GMT

#110

Aww, poor protoss :c I always knew that terran would be the best, though, since this is the terran 'expansion' after all.

lizzard_warish

589 Posts

August 07 2011 03:06 GMT

#111

On August 07 2011 09:51 zeru wrote:
Looks like the terran buff (new BFH icon) really made the difference.

Also korea has a ton of amazing terrans while they dont have that many good protoss. International graph which has a bigger sample size still looks quite good.

Or the terran players are amazing due to a racial imbalance, and vise versa for the protoss, whereas the balance in the international scene is due to our relative incompetence...

Which of course both our opinions are retardedly unsubstantiated which is why statistics do not matter, analysis from top players do. They can talk about why, or if, the strategy in tvp for example favours terran, not these graphs.

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

August 07 2011 03:10 GMT

#112

On August 07 2011 11:06 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

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Id expect it to look better next month (unless some new allin is discovered), because Ps on ladder seem 10x better at dealing with 1-1-1 builds than they did 2-3 weeks ago.

Obviously this wont show up in statistics until next month, however.

10x better at defending implies that at some point in time it was <10% chance of stopping it, and since nobody has found a solid way to, it probably still works at least 20-30% of the time against practiced opponents =/.

akalarry

United States1978 Posts

August 07 2011 03:24 GMT

#113

i like how the winrates changed without any patch changes

that means people are learning and evolving. i dont think there should really be any changes for another month or so because maybe toss and zerg can learn and figure something out that will shift it back to even. give it time, one month isn't enough to start nerfing and buffing things.

awesomoecalypse

United States2235 Posts

August 07 2011 03:26 GMT

#114

Which of course both our opinions are retardedly unsubstantiated which is why statistics do not matter, analysis from top players do. They can talk about why, or if, the strategy in tvp for example favours terran, not these graphs.

Yeah cause pros are totally unbiased and always agree with each other, right?

skrzmark

United States1528 Posts

August 07 2011 03:30 GMT

#115

They need Zealot to start with charge upgraded speed and I think toss would do decent.

Veldril

Thailand1817 Posts

August 07 2011 03:31 GMT

#116

On August 07 2011 11:01 Amui wrote:

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No balance patches happened, but people figured stuff out.

That's why it is awesome, and it shows how young and how much this game has.

AsianEcksDragon

United States1036 Posts

August 07 2011 03:41 GMT

#117

On August 07 2011 12:24 akalarry wrote:
i like how the winrates changed without any patch changes

that means people are learning and evolving. i dont think there should really be any changes for another month or so because maybe toss and zerg can learn and figure something out that will shift it back to even. give it time, one month isn't enough to start nerfing and buffing things.

I don't really think that's the case. It's more like which Terran strategy is fotm and how Zerg and Protoss blind counters it the next month.

moltenlead

Canada866 Posts

August 07 2011 03:41 GMT

#118

Well, I was expecting the P results. It just seems slightly weak compared to the others, and the stats show that.

FakeDouble

Australia676 Posts

August 07 2011 03:44 GMT

#119

So does the international graph include MLG Anaheim which was at the end of July? The tournament where 3 SlayerS terrans, namely MMA, BoxeR and GanZi and of course the champion, MVP completely dominated the tournament?

That could explain the complete and utter TvZ dominance in the international graphs

Chargelot

2275 Posts

August 07 2011 03:47 GMT

#120

On August 07 2011 12:44 carbonaceous wrote:
So does the international graph include MLG Anaheim which was at the end of July? The tournament where 3 SlayerS terrans, namely MMA, BoxeR and GanZi and of course the champion, MVP completely dominated the tournament?

That could explain the complete and utter TvZ dominance in the international graphs

Those 4 results don't compare to the thousands of games that are reflected in the graphs. TvZ graph shows 7000+ games. If Boxer MMA GanZi and MVP didn't exist, it wouldn't change the graph by any significant percentage.