|
On August 07 2011 11:32 -_- wrote: I just hope infestors aren't nerfed. Destiny would lose his mind. He's not the only one, depending on how they'd nerf infestors, I'd start questioning my faith in Blizzard's balance team more and more.
|
Poor protoss Not surprised honestly, i think toss went something like 10% win rate in up/down matches haha
|
glad to know im not the only toss having troubles atm lol
|
I play Z and the current stats pretty much reflect how zvt & zvp feel to me. blue flame hellions =
|
United Arab Emirates137 Posts
Nerf Mules, Terran should only get them on Thursdays.
|
Look at ZvP for Korea, thats some crazy shit XD
|
It is like the Korean graph is just the international one stretched way out haha... Poor Protoss.
|
pretty interesting data... terrans are doing well but it is intesting that tvp in the foreign scene is quite close and tvz is quite close in korea....also i feel bad for korean protos players :'(
|
On August 07 2011 11:49 kemsley wrote: Nerf Mules, Terran should only get them on Thursdays. Friday actually, all the SCVs are like:"partying,partying YEAH~!"
|
Aww, poor protoss :c I always knew that terran would be the best, though, since this is the terran 'expansion' after all.
|
On August 07 2011 09:51 zeru wrote: Looks like the terran buff (new BFH icon) really made the difference.
Also korea has a ton of amazing terrans while they dont have that many good protoss. International graph which has a bigger sample size still looks quite good. Or the terran players are amazing due to a racial imbalance, and vise versa for the protoss, whereas the balance in the international scene is due to our relative incompetence...
Which of course both our opinions are retardedly unsubstantiated which is why statistics do not matter, analysis from top players do. They can talk about why, or if, the strategy in tvp for example favours terran, not these graphs.
|
On August 07 2011 11:06 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 09:59 Zealot Lord wrote:On August 07 2011 09:50 OrchidThief wrote:On August 07 2011 09:41 ZappaSC wrote: Wow that looks crazy... what have the terrans learned since last month that i have completly missed? o.O The marine/tank/raven timing attack is really giving protoss some problems at least. This. The Korea TvP graph shouldn't look this bad if not for protoss players going something like 0-10 in the GSL up & down matches thanks to this all in lol. Id expect it to look better next month (unless some new allin is discovered), because Ps on ladder seem 10x better at dealing with 1-1-1 builds than they did 2-3 weeks ago. Obviously this wont show up in statistics until next month, however.
10x better at defending implies that at some point in time it was <10% chance of stopping it, and since nobody has found a solid way to, it probably still works at least 20-30% of the time against practiced opponents =/.
|
i like how the winrates changed without any patch changes
that means people are learning and evolving. i dont think there should really be any changes for another month or so because maybe toss and zerg can learn and figure something out that will shift it back to even. give it time, one month isn't enough to start nerfing and buffing things.
|
Which of course both our opinions are retardedly unsubstantiated which is why statistics do not matter, analysis from top players do. They can talk about why, or if, the strategy in tvp for example favours terran, not these graphs.
Yeah cause pros are totally unbiased and always agree with each other, right?
|
They need Zealot to start with charge upgraded speed and I think toss would do decent.
|
On August 07 2011 11:01 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 10:59 Zephirdd wrote: June: most balanced month ever.
July: most WTF month ever.
No balance patches happened in between.
Awesome. No balance patches happened, but people figured stuff out.
That's why it is awesome, and it shows how young and how much this game has.
|
On August 07 2011 12:24 akalarry wrote: i like how the winrates changed without any patch changes
that means people are learning and evolving. i dont think there should really be any changes for another month or so because maybe toss and zerg can learn and figure something out that will shift it back to even. give it time, one month isn't enough to start nerfing and buffing things.
I don't really think that's the case. It's more like which Terran strategy is fotm and how Zerg and Protoss blind counters it the next month.
|
Well, I was expecting the P results. It just seems slightly weak compared to the others, and the stats show that.
|
So does the international graph include MLG Anaheim which was at the end of July? The tournament where 3 SlayerS terrans, namely MMA, BoxeR and GanZi and of course the champion, MVP completely dominated the tournament?
That could explain the complete and utter TvZ dominance in the international graphs
|
On August 07 2011 12:44 carbonaceous wrote: So does the international graph include MLG Anaheim which was at the end of July? The tournament where 3 SlayerS terrans, namely MMA, BoxeR and GanZi and of course the champion, MVP completely dominated the tournament?
That could explain the complete and utter TvZ dominance in the international graphs
Those 4 results don't compare to the thousands of games that are reflected in the graphs. TvZ graph shows 7000+ games. If Boxer MMA GanZi and MVP didn't exist, it wouldn't change the graph by any significant percentage.
|
|
|
|