EPTJuly: most WTF month ever.
No balance patches happened in between.
Awesome.
[July] TLPD Race Winrate Graphs - Page 5
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
July: most WTF month ever. No balance patches happened in between. Awesome. | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
On August 07 2011 10:55 Netsky wrote: Can Terran even be nerfed any more? I think they have had more nerfs than Z and P combined. I think it's more a case of P learning to play against new strategies rather than T being "op" or "imba". Bunker nerfs don't count.  May & June were also "balanced" for protoss because that's when the 6/7 gate all-in became popular and zerg wasn't sure what to do to stop it. As for PvT, terrans 1/1/1 all-in & using ghosts more and more. TBH, I could easily see a change in Fungal & EMP as both seem waaaay too strong. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On August 07 2011 10:59 Zephirdd wrote: June: most balanced month ever. July: most WTF month ever. No balance patches happened in between. Awesome. No balance patches happened, but people figured stuff out. | ||
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WarrickHunt
United Kingdom393 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 07 2011 10:59 Zephirdd wrote: June: most balanced month ever. July: most WTF month ever. No balance patches happened in between. Awesome. Looks still pretty balanced to me. PvT what everybody seems to whine about is still 47,2 % to 52,8 %. No idea why these numbers are supposed to be that bad. Actually when looking at hard numbersd like tehse I am always very surprised how blanced the game actually is, especially if you compare them to the massive amounts of whine. | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 07 2011 11:01 WarrickHunt wrote: these graphs although cool to see means nothing about balance or anything of the sort, as people get put against people the ladder system thinks will get them a 50% ratio, so better players from zerg for example may be playing and beating much worse toss its just the way the ladder works Read the OP, these are not ladder matches. | ||
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dooraven
Australia2820 Posts
One solution would be to give Hallucinate detection, so protoss doesn't have to go to Robo all game, since charge is pretty decent vs the 111. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On August 07 2011 09:59 Zealot Lord wrote: This. The Korea TvP graph shouldn't look this bad if not for protoss players going something like 0-10 in the GSL up & down matches thanks to this all in lol. Id expect it to look better next month (unless some new allin is discovered), because Ps on ladder seem 10x better at dealing with 1-1-1 builds than they did 2-3 weeks ago. Obviously this wont show up in statistics until next month, however. | ||
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Ghostpvp
United States462 Posts
On August 07 2011 10:44 iamke55 wrote: It's actually really easy to fix, and stems from the problem of Terran being far too versatile. There is absolutely no situation where Terran is completely screwed if banshees were removed, whereas any kind of force field nerf would make both Protoss matchups unwinnable. The Banshee/Marine/Tank push/all-in risk to reward ratio is ridiculous comparing how hard it is to execute vs defending it even when scouted. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On August 07 2011 11:06 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Id expect it to look better next month (unless some new allin is discovered), because Ps on ladder seem 10x better at dealing with 1-1-1 builds than they did 2-3 weeks ago. Obviously this wont show up in statistics until next month, however. Looking forward to seeing this build finally dealt with effectively, then  | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On August 07 2011 11:06 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Id expect it to look better next month (unless some new allin is discovered), because Ps on ladder seem 10x better at dealing with 1-1-1 builds than they did 2-3 weeks ago. Obviously this wont show up in statistics until next month, however. Sounds like Jinro's been doing some 1-1-1 on ladder :p | ||
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Darclite
United States1021 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4kbPd.jpg) btw, I apologize in advance if I'm not supposed to post that kind of thing here; it's meant to be a joke. | ||
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sickoota
Canada918 Posts
On August 07 2011 11:06 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Id expect it to look better next month (unless some new allin is discovered), because Ps on ladder seem 10x better at dealing with 1-1-1 builds than they did 2-3 weeks ago. Obviously this wont show up in statistics until next month, however. Yesterday Sangho tweets "Seriously, if 1-1-1 doesn't get patched, Starcraft 2 won't be successful. Please Blizzard, deal with this favorably..." (Milkis translation.) Evidently not all of them | ||
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
Mules allow you to stay in the game even if you've lost a lot of workers Drops allow you to get ahead. IMO drops are pretty low risk for HUGE reward, and every terran gets medivacs I think in a straight up match terran isn't to bad, but I can't count the number of times I smash a Terran army, move out and he's loaded up 4 medivacs for a suicide drop with 5 bunkers at his naturtal or a PF at his 3rd. I either attack his base being super cost inefficient or run my army back and lose a nexus or some tech. This is not a wine post just an observation P and Z just don't have as many ways to come back... | ||
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Leyra
United States1222 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On August 07 2011 10:59 Zephirdd wrote: June: most balanced month ever. July: most WTF month ever. No balance patches happened in between. Awesome. Metagame changes all the time. Patching is only 1 thing. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1739 Posts
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On August 07 2011 10:59 Zephirdd wrote: June: most balanced month ever. July: most WTF month ever. No balance patches happened in between. Awesome. Blue flame icons. But I'm pretty sure from the tourneys we've seen the more prevalent use of 1/1/1 all-in against P and huge use of blue flame hellions (and mech) against...everyone, has shifted the meta-game. | ||
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United States7081 Posts
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