On July 30 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
I don't understand how you can get the IP from the replays? Don't they get released after the event is done anyways? And how do players that go home after the event get affected by that?

Yes exactly my thoughts. I am no specialist in this but I don't see the how the IP's from computers at the event correlate to getting DDOS'd on their home computer.

Are the VOD's for MLG free of charge? If they aren't I can understand why the they would do this.

SCPlato

United States249 Posts

July 29 2011 20:19 GMT

#24

On July 30 2011 05:17 Emporio wrote:
Oh, I see, they are still releasing replays, just after the entire tournament is over?

no, they are not releasing them to the public, period. They will release them to a small selected group of, presumably well known, casters who will cast the games they want and post them to their respective sites/youtube. So we can get some VOD casted games, but not the actual replays.

[N3O]r3d33m3r

Germany674 Posts

July 29 2011 20:20 GMT

#25

On July 30 2011 05:13 Wren wrote:
Could MLG just delay publication until after they have the opportunity to scrub the files?

ye that would be cool.
this really sucks though and i don't believe the reason with the data which is contained in them

GreEny K

Germany7312 Posts

July 29 2011 20:21 GMT

#26

Wow, had no idea you could attack the players or event just by using the replay files... Crazy

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

July 29 2011 20:21 GMT

#27

On July 30 2011 05:13 Wren wrote:
Could MLG just delay publication until after they have the opportunity to scrub the files?

I thought thats what they were originally going to do. I thought they said they wouldn't do immediate replays a little while ago.

EmilA

Denmark4618 Posts

July 29 2011 20:21 GMT

#28

On July 30 2011 05:14 Numy wrote:
That explanation makes zero sense. This sucks. Seems like a new avenue to make money from.

I don't understand why you're saying this. If there's just a tiny bit of truth in the claim that it can be used to DDoS either players or the event itself, you must consider MLGs past history with technical difficulties and then understand why they won't take any chances.

It was a really nice feature, but by no means essential. Full support from me.

thee telescopes

321 Posts

July 29 2011 20:22 GMT

#29

Isn't this another problem having LAN support would fix? There'd be no need for the player computers to be permanently connected to the internet then?

KingOfAmerica

United States246 Posts

July 29 2011 20:22 GMT

#30

Ahhhh this sucks. I basically stole every build I have used for the last month and a half from the MLG Columbus pack, and I was DYING to get some blood infused.

Chill

Calgary26003 Posts

July 29 2011 20:23 GMT

#31

Frankly I blame Blizzard, not MLG.

Hikari

1914 Posts

July 29 2011 20:24 GMT

#32

"better late than never"
The problem lies in blizzard's side imo: time to review the replay format!

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

July 29 2011 20:24 GMT

#33

On July 30 2011 05:21 EmilA wrote:

Show nested quote +

If it was because of a possible security breach at the event then releasing the replays later wouldn't be effected by this. So I don't see any truth to that claim. Sure not releasing replays during could very well be because of it but not releasing them after the event in case of a breach after the fact? Makes no sense

LovE-

United States1963 Posts

July 29 2011 20:24 GMT

#34

Sucks big time, although their reasoning behind is definitely good enough to justify this.

SecondChance

Australia603 Posts

July 29 2011 20:26 GMT

#35

On July 30 2011 05:13 kedinik wrote:
I'm really curious why an SC2 replay would encode the data that makes DDoS possible.

Does Blizzard ever request a replay to support cheating claims? If they did, then it might prove useful to have details (such as IP I guess?) being used at that exact time.

I can only assume data such as the players IP is included, or the server IP etc if they are worried about DDOS.

KillerDucky

United States498 Posts

July 29 2011 20:26 GMT

#36

I think they just mean you can get the players/casters character code. The DDOS attack is simply spamming them messages on bnet, which lags their client (even when you put yourself on busy the client still receives and has to process the messages).

DeepBlu2

United States975 Posts

July 29 2011 20:27 GMT

#37

It would be nice if someone who understands it could explain it further as I was unaware you could pull anything from the replays. There are packets being sent however, I believe. I know one set is packets showing chat messages ONLY to allies, such as in teamgames, I believe. Their reason is definitely justified, however.

xBillehx

United States1289 Posts

July 29 2011 20:28 GMT

#38

Sucks but the reason many of the games last event had lag/pauses/delays was because idiots were spamming them ingame after parsing the information out of the replay files. Last time Losira and MMA got screwed with mid-game, I'd rather it not happen this time.

Edit: To explain it further, when you put Busy mode on, Battle.net still saves all messages sent to you. At a certain point there's way too much information for battle.net to save so it flushes it all out to the player at once lagging them out big time.

Soluhwin

United States1287 Posts

July 29 2011 20:29 GMT

#39

Damn, main reason I loved MLG is if I saw a player I loved to a sexy build I could simply watch the replay and learn it, rather than have to try and decipher the build through the cast or look up other replays of the same player and hope they do the same thing.

Intricate1

169 Posts

July 29 2011 20:30 GMT

#40

On July 30 2011 05:17 AlBundy wrote:
Good news! Personally I'm against releasing Progamers' replays so good news.
Also it helps fighting the hackers so it's all good.

Good News?

This is horrible news, I get so much value from these replays. For me this takes away a lot. sucks so bad