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dailyterran
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States3 Posts
July 28 2011 19:27 GMT
#41
Yes the GG matters. The passion for the game comes thru in the commentating.

who wants some?!
Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
July 28 2011 19:32 GMT
#42
On July 29 2011 03:41 bonifaceviii wrote:
As long as it doesn't sound fake, like Day9's enthusiasm often does (<3 Day9 forever, but you gotta admit he's not good at faking it).

When I first heard Day9 cast, I thought he was totally faking too, but after a while I just realized that's just his personality and who he is.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler
Circos
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 19:34:42
July 28 2011 19:34 GMT
#43
I'd rather our commentators not got excited really, usually when a western commentator proclaims that they are "So excited for this match-up blah blah", it's a general indication that they are not actually excited about it, but simply readying their minds to fake enthusiasm for an hour or two.

The thing is, they just don't LOVE the game like the Korean commentators loved BroodWar, and sadly, I can see why.
I saw the angel within the marble, and I carved until it was free.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
July 28 2011 19:38 GMT
#44
This isn't just a starcraft thing, it's a english-speaking thing in general.
Have you ever seen an english-speaking commentator cast an important goal scored in a futbol match?
Now have you ever compared that to a brazilian commentator, or any other from south america?

I'd say it's a cultural thing. Which sucks tbh, cuz the more excitement always, the better
SooYoung-Noona!
kappadevin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
July 28 2011 19:38 GMT
#45
On July 29 2011 03:51 Eishi_Ki wrote:
I agree 100%. WHen I'm listening to the GSL and an English caster goes "Well that's basically GG" leading into silence, and then you hear the KR commentators in the background still going strong, all I'm thinking is "Damn, I wish I was watching with those guys right now"

Do not like pre-emptive GG's in my livereport threads, nor from my commentators >


qft

It bugs me a ton when Tasteless says "Expect GG any minute" during games, especially when its a game that I don't feel is over, a game that is reasonably close with one person showing some sort of large, but not insurmountable, advantage. The problem is he says it nearly every game, and usually calls it 5 or more minutes before the game actually ends. I would much rather them say something like "Player X now has a massive lead" or "That was a huge blow to Player Y, it's going to be tough to recover from that", because players have shown that no situation is un-winnable. The "Expect GG any minute" really deflates the excitement in the game. I mean sure, not every game is going to be exciting, and there's nothing the casters can really do about that, but they should definitely avoid saying phrases that actually make it worse.
Little Tortilla Boy
WTFZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 19:40:59
July 28 2011 19:40 GMT
#46
On July 29 2011 03:38 JiYan wrote:




Those Korean commentators...my god, you wanna talk about passion for what you do?

Anyways, I think it's a per-commentator thing really. Some commentators like to get real worked up and others like to stay more analytical all the way to the end. I personally prefer it when you have one of each.

Edit: How the hell do you make quotes not massive? Isn't there a way to make them "click to see quote"?
Might makes right.
lunchrush
Profile Joined March 2011
United States138 Posts
July 28 2011 19:40 GMT
#47
One commentator I notice doing this a LOT is Wolf. Once the big battle ends, he starts talking about the game and strategy and it's great and all, but then when the GG comes, he just interrupts his thought with "GG" and continues with his sentence, like the end of the game is an inconvenience rather than, well, the entire point of the game. I agree that the game is usually decided, especially in the GSL, well before the GG is thrown out, but the fact that the actual end of the game is so neglected irks me.

Props to Wolf for being an amazing commentator though, imo a great choice for a permanent code A caster. I hope this post is seen as constructive criticism and not BM =S
There is no order in the world around us, we must adapt ourselves to the requirements of chaos instead. -Kurt Vonnegut
Spacely
Profile Joined March 2011
United States108 Posts
July 28 2011 19:43 GMT
#48
All I can say about this is GG, but wouldn't it be kind of weird if Tasteless and Artosis were all like JEEEEEEJEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE at the end of matches?
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
July 28 2011 19:43 GMT
#49
I don't see the point in commentators holding a single syllable for 15 seconds. That's not what excitement is, and if anyone thinks that's what makes for excitement in sports I feel sad for them. The casters are excited during the exciting portions of a game (and hopefully the production is such that there are cuts to the crowd going nuts as well).

Someone linked to the Mexican "goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal" guy and seemed to not notice that this isn't something that's said at the end of a game, it's said in the middle of it during the action. In american football you will likewise have people going insane over a great player or for a touchdown, but almost never arbitrarily at the end of a game that was obviously decided a few minutes before. Starcraft is much the same and players will often drag the game out hoping to scratch a way back in. The excitement of the match came a few minutes before the gg during a big battle or from a key piece of scouting. Rarely does a gg coincide with a peak of excitement in Starcraft.

I want to hear "OMG EMPS! SO MANY BANELINGS! OH HE SNIPED THE BLAH BLAH BLAH!" during the battles that decide the game not "geegeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" when it's already apparent the game is decided.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Jtn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
444 Posts
July 28 2011 19:46 GMT
#50
I don't need to hear some crazy ridiculous GEEEEEEEEEEEGEEEEEEEEEEEE over a completely normal game. When a game is close, commentators will naturally get genuinely excited. I really don't need super excited shouting like how Day9 does it in every tournament.
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 19:48:01
July 28 2011 19:46 GMT
#51
I have to agree that Korean commentators generally sound more enthusiastic than their English counterparts, and I would like to see more English commentators emulate this Korean style. Looking around on Youtube, I found 2 commentaries of the same game. The English commentary makes it sound as if the game was won some time before GG was called, but the Korean commentary still sounds more exciting.

GG at 17:29 for both videos

English Commentary
+ Show Spoiler +

Korean Commentary
+ Show Spoiler +
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2011 19:47 GMT
#52
As long as the commentary isn't fake I agree with you.
I had a good night of sleep.
kappadevin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
July 28 2011 19:48 GMT
#53
On July 29 2011 04:40 lunchrush wrote:
One commentator I notice doing this a LOT is Wolf. Once the big battle ends, he starts talking about the game and strategy and it's great and all, but then when the GG comes, he just interrupts his thought with "GG" and continues with his sentence, like the end of the game is an inconvenience rather than, well, the entire point of the game. I agree that the game is usually decided, especially in the GSL, well before the GG is thrown out, but the fact that the actual end of the game is so neglected irks me.

Props to Wolf for being an amazing commentator though, imo a great choice for a permanent code A caster. I hope this post is seen as constructive criticism and not BM =S


I agree with this to an extent as well. I said months ago when Wolf was first brought in to code A that he needed a co-commentator to bring excitement to the game. In all honest I wouldn't mind if someone like Husky came out to co-commentate, because as much as his solo cast bugs me, the co-casts I have seen him do are actually quite good and it seems like he actually analyzes the games more with a co-caster than he does alone. Plus you can't deny that he has a passion for the game, can make them exciting, and has an arguably less annoying voice than moletrap did.
Little Tortilla Boy
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
July 28 2011 19:49 GMT
#54
and thats why im still the best at commentating :D
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
July 28 2011 19:52 GMT
#55
I don't need to be fed fake excitement..

The rest depends on the game. There was plenty of excitement from Tastosis in the Nestea vs Sc semifinal last game on Crossfire from GSL May.
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
July 28 2011 19:57 GMT
#56
On July 29 2011 04:27 dailyterran wrote:
Yes the GG matters. The passion for the game comes thru in the commentating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkIGO2UA-u8


Scoring a goal in soccer is not equivalent to a gg in SC. Scoring a goal is like killing a bunch of workers, or winning a big battle, or having a baneling bomb go off, in all 3 cases most commentators are fairly excited. A "gg" is like reaching the 90 minute mark with one team up, I doubt most soccer commentators are excited when Portugal is beating N.Korea 7-0 and they reach the 90 minute mark.
NasKe_
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil570 Posts
July 28 2011 19:57 GMT
#57
I have to say that Tastosis is rly bad in this point.
I know that the game is already lost, but saying: "Yeah... we can expect gg anymoment..." is rly boring. Even if one player have 1 base and the other is 200/200 with 6 bases, the koreans comentatos still screaming, and i think this is rly exiciting.
OhMyGawd
Profile Joined February 2011
United States264 Posts
July 28 2011 19:59 GMT
#58
Let casters cast how they want, that's how we differentiate very good casters from mediocre or bad casters.
zomg
immortalitysc2
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States43 Posts
July 28 2011 20:05 GMT
#59
infamy indeed....
http://www.livestream.com/immortalitysc2
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
July 28 2011 20:05 GMT
#60
Screaming GG in an unfamthomly loud fashion is easier infront of a crowd of a thousand people compared to sitting in your room with people around you trying to sleep/not be disturbed by a million decibels of awesome hitting their eardrums.

Having that said, an excited caster is like the skin on the chicken of KFC. It makes the great games games you will always remember.
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