The GG is the moneyshot of a starcraft game. When IdrA leaves without GG, it's like a pulling out suddenly and leaving the room during sex.

Commentators should help the viewer get excited and bring it to a climax. As the OP says, part of the joy of watching a good starcraft game is the buildup of tension and final release with the GG.

Honeybadger

United States821 Posts

July 29 2011 02:42 GMT

#142

On July 29 2011 07:30 Maliris wrote:
i miss klazart

He got me into BW all those years ago, even though he was clueless he was still a good introductory commentator like hd/husky

I bring him up as a mockery of what people want, but I agree. His shit was so off the wall with unbridled PASSION for what he was seeing, it was just fun to listen to.

But good lord, if you stuck him in a casting position with the GSL, the first five or so games would be hilarious, and after that they'd want to make me run my computer through a wood chipper.

On July 29 2011 11:41 Zealotdriver wrote:
The GG is the moneyshot of a starcraft game. When IdrA leaves without GG, it's like a pulling out suddenly and leaving the room during sex.

This thread is now officially about comparing sc2 commentary to sex.

Kibibit

United States1551 Posts

July 29 2011 02:44 GMT

#143

One of the bigger things people forget is that the english language and it's general social conventions don't lead well into having super-exciting GGs, and whenever people do do it, they sound like they're "Faking" or "trying too hard" a-la Klazart. Theoretically, I'd like to see it, but it'd take special soul to do it and not make it somewhat awkward.

Little-Chimp

Canada948 Posts

July 29 2011 02:48 GMT

#144

Korean commentators only really yell GG!!!! When the GG comes after an exciting moment. It's not all that uncommon for them to give a much smaller GG announcement after a roflstomp game. That being said it would be more exciting to hear a more korean style GG yell in those exciting situations from foreign casters.

Vari

United States532 Posts

July 29 2011 02:48 GMT

#145

I don't think it's a single climax that ends just before or at the GG, though

I think there are peaks and valleys throughout a game and usually right before the gg, or as its happening, is about as low as the valley gets besides the first few minutes because the viewer knows the outcome. if there was still mystery when the gg dropped well, that would mean whoever quit wasn't being very smart to quit.

that being said, I think there is a lack of value granted to a WIN in starcraft, and that's something I think day9 actually does awesomely. a gg isn't just a sign that someone in the game realized it's over, it means someone has achieved victory over an enemy. in general I think it ought to be more hyped in that sense

United States1177 Posts

July 29 2011 02:53 GMT

#146

It's like a slow tug-of-war where you see the winner slowly drag the rope past the winning line.

The final moments never mean much, especially with late gg timing. The key moments all took place prior to the end. Of course there are the rare games where it goes down to the very last second.

Flonkkertiin

United States24 Posts

July 29 2011 03:03 GMT

#147

i think having a large live crowd has a big effect on this. i remember the casting at mlg columbus being super exciting, and part of that is the roar of the crowd behind the caster as the caster gets excited. with the gsl the crowds are so small that it can sound awkward if the caster is just screaming when there is barely any other noise in the room. but larger events are louder too and force the caster to get louder. in the video you see the same thing, the crowd is getting into, and the casting seems more exciting because of it.

Xevious

United States2086 Posts

July 29 2011 03:05 GMT

#148

Meh. I think it has something to do with the fact that a Starcraft match can be over or practically won a long time before the GG. That doesn't explain why Koreans get so excited at it in relation to English commentators.

CellTech

Canada396 Posts

July 29 2011 03:15 GMT

#149

Broodwar was better to cast because of small fights all over the map. I think it all comes down to having a slower paced game with 12 unit hotkey groups doing work all over, vs. Having all your focus on one push that's over in 10 seconds. BW felt like a long rollercoaster ride, and sc2 feels like a haunted house: boring with bits of excitement.

Durantula

United States108 Posts

July 29 2011 03:20 GMT

#150

I dont know, i feel like most of the time a gg isn't comparable to a last minute go ahead goal/basket/touchdown, but rather more resembles the result of a blowout, as you know that the gg is coming most of the time. And in blowout games, commentators usually just will leave you with a "and that will do it" in a fairly mellow tone.

meep

United States1699 Posts

July 29 2011 04:28 GMT

#151

This thread reminded me of

TortoiseCa

Canada104 Posts

July 29 2011 05:38 GMT

#152

I think even mentioning "gg" at the end of games should be reserved for epic, exciting games. Why not speak the truth - "well, glad that one is over. they weren't playing too well" instead of "OH MY GOD AND BECAUSE I HAVE NO PERSONALITY, THERE'S THE GG!!!"

tyCe

Australia2542 Posts

July 29 2011 05:40 GMT

#153

CholeraSC + YellOw beating Bisu + it actually being a super epic game = #1

Jagermaister

Canada5 Posts

July 29 2011 06:06 GMT

#154

I think what it comes down to is that there are about a million other things you can say right up until GG comes up on the screen. I agree that 'GG' should be a bigger moment from the casters. It is, after all, the moment of surrender, and should never be taken lightly. Even in a steamroll game, the GG should be met with thunderous enthusiasm.

The 'GG' is the pinnacle of game-enders: it's the buzzer beater, the last play. The moment itself should be glorified and cherished, as one person delivers the crushing blow(s) to the other. GG is the knock out punch landing on the chin, all the way to the fighter hitting the mat.

Emphasis should always be placed on this time. It's what every player plays for, what every fan watches for:

GG.

KimJongChill

United States6429 Posts

July 29 2011 06:09 GMT

#155

On July 29 2011 11:41 Zealotdriver wrote:
The GG is the moneyshot of a starcraft game. When IdrA leaves without GG, it's like a pulling out suddenly and leaving the room during sex.

Commentators should help the viewer get excited and bring it to a climax. As the OP says, part of the joy of watching a good starcraft game is the buildup of tension and final release with the GG.

Yep, pretty much perfectly sums it up.

p0lyph0ny

United States217 Posts

July 29 2011 06:14 GMT

#156

GEE GEE!!!!!!!

Opera

France469 Posts

July 29 2011 06:15 GMT

#157

In France we have two casters which scream the hell out when a player gg's out of a game

http://www.youtube.com/user/PomfEtThud#p/u/0/MqhYO6g-qgU

The game is casted in french so go to straight to the end and you will never be able to hear "and there's the gg" by djWheat whithout thinking something's missing.

peekn

United States1152 Posts

July 29 2011 06:20 GMT

#158

More screaming!!!

I've found that the more excited the casters are the more excited I get, regardless of who is playing or what caliber they are.

Casters make the games more exciting for me.

Shebuha

Canada1335 Posts

July 29 2011 06:25 GMT

#159

I fall in between wanting commentators to hype the GG a lot, and letting them do it their own way.

If it's a game where the guy loses in an awful, unexciting fashion, then don't go "OMG WTF GG" or scream or anything... But in a bo7 tournament series, the GG had better be freakin big and loud. Even watching from my computer I get sick nerd chills at finals... like MC vs. Puma... wow.

Yeah, for me, it's about context. Like why the game is being played (tourny vs ladder), or how the game ends (total screw up by one player vs epic battle).

Kojaimea

United Kingdom277 Posts

July 29 2011 06:50 GMT

#160

I'd much rather commentator's enthusiasm was proportional to the excitement of the game. A lot of the time when GG is thrown out there, it isn't an accurate description of the game and shouldn't be treated as otherwise.