EPTThe Effect of a Commentator's "GG" - Page 2
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Cosmos
Belgium1077 Posts
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galtdunn
United States977 Posts
On July 29 2011 03:51 asmo.0 wrote: I think we need to accept that sometimes the greatest moment in the game is 5sek before the gg, but that a lot of games are practically decided >2-5mins before the gg. Its not always that exciting to watch someone slowly get stomped down (aka, a player taking his time, being safe, playing well, not rushing to end the game) a long time after the deciding battle... Commentators forcing the issue, trying to make battles of 40 food vs 150 food be extremely exciting is a bit of a lie and not really that effective. If the games are close, I believe the current lineup of commentators are doing a good job at making the gg moment exciting, but the gg moment often comes 5mins before the actual gg. I agree with this a lot, the game ends usually a couple minutes before the GG. I also would like to point out that InControL is a very excitable caster and i love him for it! He gives enthusiastic GGs. Also, I wonder if Korean casters are more analytical or more shouty? It seems shouty, but maybe they just yell their analyses...  | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
Furthermore, there isn't a single commentator that can sound as excited as the Koreans. Whether the Koreans are genuinely excited or not, they sure sound like they are. We don't have that ability im afraid. | ||
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Owl
145 Posts
Often times they will piss me off coz they watch some army in middle of the map that isnt in battle and babble random stuff while theres some sort of harassment happening that i notice on minimap but they dont. And those things seem to happen quite frequently every now and then ill see ling runby happen and they will notice it too late. | ||
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stanik
Canada213 Posts
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
GEEEEEEEEGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHYAAAAAAAAAAAAJAJAJAJA | ||
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Baituri
Netherlands1501 Posts
1. I think there are not really as much matches where such an dramatic GG is necessary. 2. When it is necessary I think it is done. Look at this VOD from SC vs Nestea. 3. Some languages just don't carry a lot of energy with them. This sounds really stupid. But when you will say the exact same thing as the Koreans it will probably will not sound the same. Just like German sounds if everyone is pretty mad (No offence) and there are probably more stereotypes on this, but I don't know them on the top of my hat. | ||
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kakaman
United States1576 Posts
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Joey Wheeler
Korea (North)276 Posts
Do you really see this to have the potential as being climatic? Not every game is like this (Nestea vs scfou game 5), but in reality over 90% of them are. That's why there isn't any excitement in a GG because it's completely fake. | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
In fact I would even argue against the point that "Korean commentators are always more excited at the end", because there are myriad Proleague/Starleague games that end in a simple "... ya gg." by the Korean commentators. Of course I have no idea what they're saying beforehand, but the way they say 'gg' you can tell they expected the outcome at any moment, the same way that "current SC2 commentators" do, and I think that'ssimply because there are fewer SC2 games that end THAT close/intense on average compared to BW. Both games certainly have both cases though. | ||
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Snackysnacks
United States411 Posts
To be honest, for many games that drag on too long, do you really wanna sit there and be screaming when losses are given? Those yells, and i would be yelling just like that crowd, was because bisu got smashed, it was crys of fandom for yellows excellent play, not that mutas killed two reavers (though it could be translated that way, i dont know but its a stupid thing to yell over) Forever in memory, Hong Jin-Ho... Hong Jin-Ho... Hong Jin-Ho... | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
but I dont blame it one the casters, the game itself needs to be close and nailbitting enough | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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phiinix
United States1169 Posts
Game winning shots are ALWAYS followed by big uproar, and close games in starcraft are no different. A 90-76 win in basketball isn't too unheard of either, and the same goes for starcraft. A 2 rax in tvz can be exciting, but if it is crippling enough and a 10 minute marine tank push from terran is definitely going to win it, I don't see why a commentator would need to say "WHAT A EXCITING GAME" also, in events, games are played in bo3 or bo5, consecutively. Players will take a quick break to check a replay maybe, but there isn't really much lag between games. 3-5 games in an hour period compared to 3-5 games in the course of a week is much different in some ways. | ||
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Thrasymachus725
Canada527 Posts
Yes, that includes the ones where a brand new player comes in and starts to learn the game. That includes the ones where the players play hide the pylon. That includes the games where a genuine Bronze player plays a grandmaster smurf in a macro game. That includes the game where a terran turtles on two bases and a Zerg takes every single other expansion and starves him out. Excitement just doesn't exist right to the end in every game. Did you watch the Stanley Cup final series this year where the canucks got demolished 0-7? How excited do you think the commentators were at the end of the third? Linking a single sports example of an intensely close game and comparing it to EVERY game of SC casted by english casters is flawed in so many ways. | ||
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leakingpear
United Kingdom302 Posts
They're not as good at showing strategic depth unless you really know the game well (like much better than the average TL SC2 viewer who will get what's going on but not be able to do it, like a lot of the really clever things top players do are only apparent to masters level type fighting game players primarily due to the much bigger link between execution and strategy, it's like if SC was nothing but more complicated micro), but they certainly have spectatorial advantages over RTSs in some respects. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On July 29 2011 03:41 bonifaceviii wrote: As long as it doesn't sound fake, like Day9's enthusiasm often does (<3 Day9 forever, but you gotta admit he's not good at faking it). You can tell when Day is genuinely enthusiastic though. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
That's one of the reasons I loved the last MLG so much, the fans actually responded to many of the games. | ||
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lizzard_warish
589 Posts
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