How did you feel when you got invited to MLG Anaheim? What kind of tournament do you want MLG Anaheim to be for you?
It's my first time going overseas so I was a bit buoyant about that. And because you receive a seed in Code S when you win MLG, it was a really welcome news for someone like me who is in Code B. Through this MLG, I want to obtain a Code S seed and meet many of my foreign fans.
Is there any foreign players you want to meet or avoid at MLG Anaheim? And are there any Korean players you are especially careful of, or want to meet during this tournament?
To be honest I'm a bit afraid because the Korean players are really skilled... but because I'm really confident in my matchup against Terran, and two of the Terran players I acknowledge (MVP, MMA) are participating, I want to play a good game against them in front of many foreign fans.
Your pool in MLG Anaheim consists of NaNiwa, HayprO, TLO, and HuK. How do you feel about your group?
If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
In your last interview with Team Liquid, you said that you haven't found a style that you liked against Protoss. And then after that, within three weeks, you went from rating yourself a 30/100 to 65/100. Did you find a style that suited you??
In the process of practicing various different styles, I found a few good management styles that suited me. I had an okay winrate in practice with these styles so I want to stress test these strategies through this tournament.
As foreign tournaments began getting larger, many Korean players started playing overseas. In addition we heard that the October GSL finals will be held in Anaheim also. What do you think about Starcraft 2 going global?
Well if you're someone who only lived in Korea... you probably fantasize about going overseas. But I think it's a very good phenomenon, as you're not limited to just Korea but you get to test yourself in various countries and have opportunities to communicate with fans.
This is your first time going overseas to a tournament. Is there anything you're worried about, and how are you preparing for this tournament?
If there's anything special I'm worried about... the biggest worry I have is that I might go there and do a bad job managing my condition and play really pathetically. In terms of preparation, I'm preparing just as I normally do.
What have you heard about the foreign fans? And now that you get to meet your foreign fans for the first time, we're curious what kind of things you are expecting.
I actually visit TeamLiquid often and read every comment about me. During the last MLG, the fans were extremely passionate, so I'm looking forward to seeing if I can feel something like that this time.
Your English is good enough to be able to answer your fans in English on Twitter. Do you have any intention of speaking English at MLG Anaheim as a fan service? And are you preparing any ceremonies?
Well if I win it all... I do have the mind to interview in English... but right now, I'm not sure. I've never spoken in English so I'm a bit scared...
I haven't prepared any ceremonies yet T_T
What kind of dreams do you have in the world of e-Sports? What is e-Sports to you? And how do you want to remember your time as a progamer?
Of course, I want to be number one, a common goal for all gamers.
e-Sports to me... it's the first real challenge I took on in my life. It's also a place for adventure, an adventure where I'm putting the glory days of my twenties on the line to check how far I can go and see what I'm capable of.
Since I'm already a gamer, I don't want to have any regrets. I want to be able to brag and say "Hey, I once was the absolute best progamer". I want this time period to leave fond memories like that.
Finally, please say something to your fans overseas.
Thanks a lot Milkis. DRG sounds pretty confident but he shouldn't overlook Huk and Naniwa. I admit I am rooting for IMMVP but since MVP is already code S DRG can still get the code S seed as runner up.
I actually visit TeamLiquid often and read every comment about me. During the last MLG, the fans were extremely passionate, so I'm looking forward to seeing if I can feel something like that this time.
Thanks for posting this. It seems he has a pretty pro-korean player attitude that I remember he having in his last interview. Its really cool that he visits TL often and I hope the fans at MLG give all the players a reason to come back =)
I know DRG is like insanely good but I think it's a bit pompous to say he's only regarding the koreans that are coming. It's probably his confidence getting the better of him, but that is a pretty deadly group.
On July 28 2011 13:03 Milkis wrote: span class="Q">Your pool in MLG Anaheim consists of NaNiwa, HayprO, TLO, and HuK. How do you feel about your group?</span>
If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
Damn he's very cocky/confident... I agree that he'll most likely take first, but I don't know that it'll be as easy as he thinks against HuK and Nani.
Rooting for him, but i don't think he should be underestimating his pool, probably the two strongest foreigner protosses, and even TLO who said he's got a set of builds up his sleeve, and when TLO has secret builds, zergs tend to cry for about a week on ladder, even if he hasn't been able to practice that much
"Since I'm already a gamer, I don't want to have any regrets. I want to be able to brag and say "Hey, I once was the absolute best progamer". I want this time period to leave fond memories like that. "
I love that answer, I hope he crushes MLG and gets his deserved Code S spot.
DongRaeGu is amazing, but you have to see who you are going to play. Remember NesTea v. GoOdy in TSL3? DRG may not be prepared for all of the strategies that the players in his group may bring.
I have a fever! And the only prescription, is more DRG!!!
It worries me a little that he seems to completely disregard all foreigners. Everyone in his group has the capability to take games off of him (poor TLO, DRG's ZvT wrath is heading straight for him). I hope he's able to adjust to the jet lag and show good games.
I hope he doesn't underestimate Huk and Naniwa. I'm not sold yet on the notion that they're as good as the best Korean protoss, but they're not far off at all.
Please don't be too overconfident DRG!! You must win this tournament for the good of #ESPORTS
Do you guys know the feeling you get when you are rooting for a very strong player, one that should eeeeeasily get good results, but you care so much for the guy that his favored status is clear for everyone but yourself?
For gods sake DRG don't underestimate your group! I'll be cheering hard for you the entire weekend no matter who you are up against!
On July 28 2011 13:03 Milkis wrote:Well if I win it all... I do have the mind to interview in English... but right now, I'm not sure. I've never spoken in English so I'm a bit scared...
Little does he know that even if he absolutely butchered everything he said he would be adored for at least trying.
I hope he DOES continue to underestimate his opponents in pool play going into this, so that he gets absolutely manhandled by HuK and Naniwa and get brought back to Earth a little bit.
According to HuK, DRG "threatens me with rape every time on ladder." Although HuK's improved much since he said that, I'm sure DRG has as well. Should be interesting
his thoughts on his group makes me hope he loses. just look at mma. he is preparing specifically for the players in his group by studying their replays. drg is just like "meh i'll beat them all."
On July 28 2011 14:23 PHC wrote: According to HuK, DRG "threatens me with rape every time on ladder." Although HuK's improved much since he said that, I'm sure DRG has as well. Should be interesting
LOLOL
I seriously hope Huk meant that literally so like everytime he faces DRG on ladder, the beginning looks something like this:
Huk: glhf DongRaeGu: I will rape you Huk: please stop this DongRaeGu: I know where you sleep DongRaeGu: be careful better sleep face up tonight
I dunno, he lacks the humorous cocky that MC has, or at least that's how he came off in this interview regarding foreigners. MMA, on the other hand, is studying vods of foreigners. I'll be cheering for foreigners against DRG now. I do want to see him in code S some day though.
This man is such a beast of a zerg. I have no doubts that he'll be cleaning up all of the foreigners, barring something like jetlag from all the travel affecting his games.
On July 28 2011 14:40 Ansinjunger wrote: I dunno, he lacks the humorous cocky that MC has, or at least that's how he came off in this interview regarding foreigners. MMA, on the other hand, is studying vods of foreigners. I'll be cheering for foreigners against DRG now. I do want to see him in code S some day though.
Truth be told, he has no reason to fear most of the foreigners
... sorry that i'm being a total noob here, but can someone post some of this guy's games for me to watch? I haven't seen that much of his play. not behind a paywall please !
On July 28 2011 14:33 jdreamer wrote: He's good and skilled but sometimes, his attitude makes me feel that he's a little too cocky even before winning any major tournaments.
DRG, the world isn't only about Korea, alright? Show respect and people will respect you back.
Respect is for people who have proven themselves. The best players are in Korea, so he has every right to respect the Koreans a lot more. If more foreigners showed results, then you can expect him to respect them more. When you have players like MMA and MVP it's silly to worry about Huk and Naniwa. Also considering that DRG plays Huk on the ladder, he most likely beats him often for him to not feel threatened.
so cocky. Hes in one of the toughest groups in mlg history, and he thinks hes going to stomp them without preparing? I will be rooting for him to get his ass stomped.
If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
On July 28 2011 14:59 TheNessman wrote: ... sorry that i'm being a total noob here, but can someone post some of this guy's games for me to watch? I haven't seen that much of his play. not behind a paywall please !
The LG 3D Special Tournament Finals are free to watch here.
If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
D R G ! I love his attitude: "If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group. "
On July 28 2011 14:59 TheNessman wrote: ... sorry that i'm being a total noob here, but can someone post some of this guy's games for me to watch? I haven't seen that much of his play. not behind a paywall please !
The LG 3D Special Tournament Finals are free to watch here.
thanks!
and oh right lol i think i've seen some of these games
On July 28 2011 15:17 johnnywup wrote: seems like he is underestimating HuK and NaNi
Definitely this. He said it himself, he wasn't the MOST confident in his ZvP. When you're facing contenders who have won premiere events, you can't just ignore them...
This guy's ZvT is ridiculous. As long he he doesnt get cheesed out from ZvZs I personally would say he is not the darkhorse, but the favorite to win this tournament.
Eh, I don't think it's cockiness from DRG here or even guys like oGsMC when they say they expect to win the finals and never drop a game in doing so. It's more that sporting confidence of believing that if you don't think you'll win, why bother playing. Even American sports players, especially American football players, will never admit to thinking that they will lose their next match. So while predicting a tournament championship after consecutive wins is 'cockiness' superficially, I find it more of an attitude or self-confidence check for the players. The ones that say they expect to engage in hard-fought SCII matches against respected opponents are closer to the truth in many cases, generally. That is just a slightly different mindset or mentality from the players who only publicly say that they expect to win always and forever. How the players present themselves is different from what they are actually thinking or even what they believe.
Anyway, best of luck to DongRaeGu in Anaheim. Very excited to see his Zerg playstyle transplanted in an American setting.
Great player no doubt, i wonder how he will do at a 3 day tourney, with a strong pool aswel, might not be the best to look past it and have your mind only against the koreans in the final rounds.
Although I love the Koreans coming over and stuff and I really want Boxer and MMA to do well, I really would want Naniwa and Idra doing well and going far. Qxc too but I'm sad ThorzaIN will not be playing.
Echoing half the posters here, I agree that underestimating Huk and Naniwa could be DRG's undoing. It's very, very important to come out on top of your group, and I don't doubt that both Huk and Naniwa have been preparing especially for him.
Anyway, I hope he does well. He deserves a good tournament win.
What a pompous fool. He's only Code B and want's a shortcut to Code S... pathetic. His weakest match-up is ZvP and he comes jet-lagged and unprepared to face Huk and Naniwa. He won't get to the next round even.
On July 28 2011 16:23 bonse wrote: What a pompous fool. He's only Code B and want's a shortcut to Code S... pathetic. His weakest match-up is ZvP and he comes jet-lagged and unprepared to face Huk and Naniwa. He won't get to the next round even.
On July 28 2011 14:33 jdreamer wrote: He's good and skilled but sometimes, his attitude makes me feel that he's a little too cocky even before winning any major tournaments.
DRG, the world isn't only about Korea, alright? Show respect and people will respect you back.
Respect is for people who have proven themselves. The best players are in Korea, so he has every right to respect the Koreans a lot more. If more foreigners showed results, then you can expect him to respect them more. When you have players like MMA and MVP it's silly to worry about Huk and Naniwa. Also considering that DRG plays Huk on the ladder, he most likely beats him often for him to not feel threatened.
Not everything in this world requires result to gain respect. You can be the world's best player but if you have shitty attitude, no one will care about you in personal life, that also means that everyone will despise you because of that foolish cockiness.
Look at BoxeR. Even when he is not winning much in recent years, every other players still respect him because of his attitude in the past. If you have no result and still shitty attitude, you gain less respect.
I'm predicting this guy to do terrible, MMA knows enough to research the players in his group but it's clear DRG isn't going to do any of that and with 4 players looking to snipe this guy. I'll wager anything that this guy is going to go back to Korea crying.
On July 28 2011 16:46 bonse wrote: I just saw on youtube LiquidHuK vs DongraeguProS on ArtosisTV. I don't want to spoil it to you, but (one of them) makes it look so easy...
Your pool in MLG Anaheim consists of (P)NaNiwa, (Z)HayprO, (T)TLO, and (P)HuK. How do you feel about your group?
If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
huh i think huk/naniwa/haypro are capable to beat him with this statement i cant see him fall rly hard
On July 28 2011 13:42 Hot_Bid wrote: this guy is a boss
every zerg named dong is
LAWL- Trolling as usual aren't you HotBid =] DONG lol
........ Excuse me?.... HotBid has received more attention here than DongRaeGu himself!
Really looking forward to watching him this weekend. There is so much hype around this guy. If the hype delivers, I think we'll see our first Zerg MLG champion for 2011. Would be nice to see that happen, actually, after seing a Toss and a Terran win thus far this year.
I know he's a strong player, and complete confidence in yourself wins games but I don't like that he doesn't rate any non-korean players at all. I think Huk has one of the best chances to smash him. I really hope he does I mean.. he has top 3 control who can beat that?
As overconfident he may seen, I'm sure it is within reason. He is clearly a player that is amazing beating his own snipers and winning without specific preparation (gstl), so obviously TLO and Haypro shouldn't be a problem. He has faced Huk on the ladder many times and are good friends I think, so its not like he is clueless.the only person he might have to worry about is Naniwa, but Naniwa does not have the most stellar PvZ compared to his other match ups and so the Dong is favoured in this as well
On July 28 2011 16:42 Fraidnot wrote: I'm predicting this guy to do terrible, MMA knows enough to research the players in his group but it's clear DRG isn't going to do any of that and with 4 players looking to snipe this guy. I'll wager anything that this guy is going to go back to Korea crying.
Wanna bet? I think he knows HuK and that even naniwa won't be too big of a problem.
I think hes WAY to over confident for the group he has. He has some of the strongest foreigners in his groups who have all beaten Koreans in the recent and far past.
Hmmm i think hes underestimating pool play, his play vs protoss is less than stellar i think he will have a hard time, especially with huk, and probably naniwa.
He definitely isnt my favourite for getting first in his group, maybe second we will see. There is only 1 terran in his group, so he didnt get lucky in that sense, if it was all terrans i would say "easy peeasy lemon squeezy" but it isnt.
Sorry DRG i think your going to be unpleasantly surprised.
Im sorry DRG but MLG doesnt consist of only terran players, if it did maybe you would have a chance at winning. We really havent seen to much of his other matchups, and I know hero beat him in the last qualifiers, i bet if we look at the history of his GSL qualifier tries hes usually getting taken out by a good protoss or zerg.
This guy clearly isnt unbeatable , otherwise he would be in code s right now.
I think other more consistent code s players attending have a far far better chance of going all the way. DRG isnt even gonna be prepared for his group while the rest of the players in his group are going to be studying his replays and preparing for him. It doesnt bode well for him im afraid.
On July 28 2011 14:23 PHC wrote: According to HuK, DRG "threatens me with rape every time on ladder." Although HuK's improved much since he said that, I'm sure DRG has as well. Should be interesting
LOLOL
I seriously hope Huk meant that literally so like everytime he faces DRG on ladder, the beginning looks something like this:
Huk: glhf DongRaeGu: I will rape you Huk: please stop this DongRaeGu: I know where you sleep DongRaeGu: be careful better sleep face up tonight
Haha, that actually sounds feasible given some of the chat you see on Huk's stream.
I have to agree with some others in this thread that I dislike DRG's attitude of automatically counting out the foreigners, Huk and Naniwa no less. Despite DRG posting really good results in GSTL, I can see Huk taking games off him and vice versa. Naniwa could also do the same as he just seems to be getting better and better, hopefully all of these flights he's been doing recently won't put him off with jetlag.
TLO could pull a 7rax again or something equivalent and knock DRG down. He also talked about his recent starcraft epiphanies as a result of not being able to play. Of course this doesn't automatically make him a god, but TLO has shown his strategic potential many times before.
Also, don't count out Haypro, he's really good and everyone remembers when Dimaga 2-1ed Nestea in the world championships. Shit can happen.
I hope you guys realize that Huk and Naniwa aren't exactly playing the best PvZ's right now either? Perhaps DRG knows this? Not analyzing replays doesn't mean that he didn't at least take a cursory look at the favored matchups for each player.
Damn, I want DRG to get into code S, but after this interview I hope he loses hard against some foreigners (I fear he might be right though). Well, that just means win-win when watching his matches
"Hey so you are going to mlg, how do you think you will do" -interviewer "Destroy everybody." - DRG
"who do you look at as a threat @ this tournament" -interviwer "what?"-drg "Who do you not want to play?"-interviewer "i still don't understand?"-drg "Who do you fear... (gets cut off mid text... somehow)"-interviewer "I DO NOT KNOW THE MEANING OF THAT WORD!"-drg
"If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group."
Honestly I'm just reading that as confidence. The "no matter what" just seems like he's showing his determination to advance in the tournament, and he's convinced that the koreans will as well just like last time, and thus is focusing on facing them. I don't think he was dissing the foreigners ;o I mean when he played oGs he was expecting HuK to be their ace. That's respect imo.
DRG has talent, that is for sure. However, that group he is in... He very might well steamroll through, but if any combination of TLO, HuK, NaNiwa, and HayprO have a good day, they could take enough games off of him. HuK has shown massive improvement and results in the last few months. HayprO is always fairly strong and NaNiwa has been dominant in the past (even if he admits to slacking off lately). TLO is really a wildcard right now; his recuperation period may lead to good things, especially nukes.
Koreans are very proud especially when it comes to starcraft. DRG hasn't played many foreigners to my knowledge and the accepted belief in Korea is that Koreans >> foreigners, so I'm pretty sure that's where the attitude is coming from.
Through this MLG, I want to obtain a Code S seed and meet many of my foreign fans.
Koreans at MLG through the exchangeprogram can't obtain Code S/A-status, nobody told him?
They can't obtain code A status, they can get code S though(Although GOM does have a history of giving code A invites to Koreans who have performed well in foreign tournaments, like Ace and Moon)
On July 28 2011 14:33 jdreamer wrote: He's good and skilled but sometimes, his attitude makes me feel that he's a little too cocky even before winning any major tournaments.
DRG, the world isn't only about Korea, alright? Show respect and people will respect you back.
Respect is for people who have proven themselves. The best players are in Korea, so he has every right to respect the Koreans a lot more. If more foreigners showed results, then you can expect him to respect them more. When you have players like MMA and MVP it's silly to worry about Huk and Naniwa. Also considering that DRG plays Huk on the ladder, he most likely beats him often for him to not feel threatened.
Not everything in this world requires result to gain respect. You can be the world's best player but if you have shitty attitude, no one will care about you in personal life, that also means that everyone will despise you because of that foolish cockiness.
Look at BoxeR. Even when he is not winning much in recent years, every other players still respect him because of his attitude in the past. If you have no result and still shitty attitude, you gain less respect.
People respect Boxer because he had RESULTS in the PAST. If Huk and Naniwa were the reason SC1 became popular in South Korea, then they too would be getting respect without results in SC2.
What do you want him to say? Lie that he feels that the foreigners in his group are more or equal of a threat than MMA and MVP? The bottom line is, regardless of how cocky and condescending he is to foreigners, he still has fans. He has all the fans in Korea and when it comes down to it, he still has quite a few fans outside of Korea. Some people like his talent, some people like his cockiness. At the end of the day, even if he doesn't respect his group at MLG, he still has plenty of fans both in and out of Korea.
On July 28 2011 13:03 Milkis wrote: If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
Amazing confidence! Can't wait to see this play out.
Through this MLG, I want to obtain a Code S seed and meet many of my foreign fans.
Koreans at MLG through the exchangeprogram can't obtain Code S/A-status, nobody told him?
I believe that you cant have already earned a seed and are korean. So i think if you were ever in the GSL Code A/S (not open season) you can not get a spot if you are in korea, but i do not know for sure.
DRG is good, there's no doubt about that, and maybe there is some subtlety lost in the translation of his comments about his pool. Still, you don't take a little time, when you have 3 weeks to prep for a big tournament (you can get a Code S spot, so it's a big deal), to get a sense of what your opponents will do? Or ask a coach to do that? Just a bad idea.
He might be comfortable vs Terran, but that's because he was ahead of the Meta-game. His ZvT style is seen more often outside of Korea, which might be a bit of surprise to him. (Granted, the first Terran to notice that he's turtling up and takes a defensible 3rd, goes a split Thor + Tank with lots of Marines, and tosses up turrets + Sensor Towers + can beat him)
He's damn good, but he better bring his A game. Everyone saw what happened at Columbus and is adjusting as a result of it. The Koreans are good, but the days of just expecting to win everything are going to be over soon.
On July 28 2011 18:07 GoKu` wrote: How this interview should of gone.
"Hey so you are going to mlg, how do you think you will do" -interviewer "Destroy everybody." - DRG
"who do you look at as a threat @ this tournament" -interviwer "what?"-drg "Who do you not want to play?"-interviewer "i still don't understand?"-drg "Who do you fear... (gets cut off mid text... somehow)"-interviewer "I DO NOT KNOW THE MEANING OF THAT WORD!"-drg
haha
Shouldnt underestimate HuK and Naniwa though... would be a big mistake.
Through this MLG, I want to obtain a Code S seed and meet many of my foreign fans.
Koreans at MLG through the exchangeprogram can't obtain Code S/A-status, nobody told him?
I believe that you cant have already earned a seed and are korean. So i think if you were ever in the GSL Code A/S (not open season) you can not get a spot if you are in korea, but i do not know for sure.
Top player gets an invite to Code S, no matter who it is. If #1 turns it down, #2 gets the option, going on from there. So, if DRG wins, he gets Code S. If he gets #2 to Huk, MVP, Idra, or Alicia, then he'd get the Code S spot as well. He could, in theory, place #5 with those 4 being ahead of him, and still get Code S. Same thing is true for Choya, Qxc, Slog, Naniwa, Boxer, Ganzi, MMA, Oz, or Tgun. (Basically, any of the players that are good and will be back in Korea)
The non-Koreans are up for the 4 Code A spots. The players that definitely wouldn't take a Code A spot (which should be for GSL September, but the Code S is for GSL August, I think), are likely Jinro, Naniwa, Fenix, Sheth and Idra. (Though, from ITG on Tuesday, Idra isn't necessarily against taking a Code S spot at the moment, so maybe that changes the first paragraph)
Given the way things progress throughout the weekend, there's a really good chance the 1st or 2nd placing player won't take the Code S spot. Actually, there's chance that we could have the Championship Bracket finals with 2 Code S players (Huk vs MVP could always happen), thus making the Loser's bracket winner being for a Code S spot. That'd be fun.
Not specifically preparing for/looking into a group with Huk and Naniwa?
The IM coach showed what excessive confidence, a lack of preparation and underestimating your opponent can do to you. Not sure if I want this statement to bite DRG in the ass or not.
Definitely a bigger fan of the MMA interview in any case. :p
On July 28 2011 18:54 Taf the Ghost wrote: DRG is good, there's no doubt about that, and maybe there is some subtlety lost in the translation of his comments about his pool. Still, you don't take a little time, when you have 3 weeks to prep for a big tournament (you can get a Code S spot, so it's a big deal), to get a sense of what your opponents will do? Or ask a coach to do that? Just a bad idea.
He might be comfortable vs Terran, but that's because he was ahead of the Meta-game. His ZvT style is seen more often outside of Korea, which might be a bit of surprise to him. (Granted, the first Terran to notice that he's turtling up and takes a defensible 3rd, goes a split Thor + Tank with lots of Marines, and tosses up turrets + Sensor Towers + can beat him)
He's damn good, but he better bring his A game. Everyone saw what happened at Columbus and is adjusting as a result of it. The Koreans are good, but the days of just expecting to win everything are going to be over soon.
July is sub-par by Code S standards and roflstomped pool play. DRG should be fine.
Aaaah it would be so great to see DRG win this MLG. Ofcourse it's nice to see him a MLG, but having DRG in code S would be wonderful. It's so sad that he couldnt qualify for code A yet
I like DRG but after this interview I kinda hope he gets crushed by Huk / Naniwa / any foreigner. I understand that he fears the Koreans more (especialy with the line up) but atleast aknowledge the foreigners a bit.
On July 28 2011 18:54 Taf the Ghost wrote: DRG is good, there's no doubt about that, and maybe there is some subtlety lost in the translation of his comments about his pool. Still, you don't take a little time, when you have 3 weeks to prep for a big tournament (you can get a Code S spot, so it's a big deal), to get a sense of what your opponents will do? Or ask a coach to do that? Just a bad idea.
He might be comfortable vs Terran, but that's because he was ahead of the Meta-game. His ZvT style is seen more often outside of Korea, which might be a bit of surprise to him. (Granted, the first Terran to notice that he's turtling up and takes a defensible 3rd, goes a split Thor + Tank with lots of Marines, and tosses up turrets + Sensor Towers + can beat him)
He's damn good, but he better bring his A game. Everyone saw what happened at Columbus and is adjusting as a result of it. The Koreans are good, but the days of just expecting to win everything are going to be over soon.
July is sub-par by Code S standards and roflstomped pool play. DRG should be fine.
I really don't get how that's a response. July barely got past Sjow & Sheth and lost to MMA in his pool and was playing very well in GSL when he came to Columbus. So, I'm still not sure what you were responding to. DRG's group is also much harder than July's at MLG Columbus, plus there is an unknown Open bracket player coming as well.
On July 28 2011 13:47 JPoPP wrote: why do I have a feeling he's going to be very surprised in his pool.
+1 on that
HuK can beat him, Naniwa too with some lucky circumstances.
TLO could come up with a new cheese.
And Haypro... well, I know shit about ZvZ.
My prediction - he goes 3-1 or 2-2 in group play.
lololol He will roflstomp that pool easy!!! Huk is korean for DRG and Nani has always said to have a bit of trouble vs zerg! TLO is going to get owned he lost to Mass banelings vs losira last time! :-)
Hate him for it or not But his confidence is deserved! Atleast he didnt say he would 2-0 all the forgeneirs. Looking at you Idra!
On July 28 2011 18:54 Taf the Ghost wrote: DRG is good, there's no doubt about that, and maybe there is some subtlety lost in the translation of his comments about his pool. Still, you don't take a little time, when you have 3 weeks to prep for a big tournament (you can get a Code S spot, so it's a big deal), to get a sense of what your opponents will do? Or ask a coach to do that? Just a bad idea.
He might be comfortable vs Terran, but that's because he was ahead of the Meta-game. His ZvT style is seen more often outside of Korea, which might be a bit of surprise to him. (Granted, the first Terran to notice that he's turtling up and takes a defensible 3rd, goes a split Thor + Tank with lots of Marines, and tosses up turrets + Sensor Towers + can beat him)
He's damn good, but he better bring his A game. Everyone saw what happened at Columbus and is adjusting as a result of it. The Koreans are good, but the days of just expecting to win everything are going to be over soon.
July is sub-par by Code S standards and roflstomped pool play. DRG should be fine.
I really don't get how that's a response. July barely got past Sjow & Sheth and lost to MMA in his pool and was playing very well in GSL when he came to Columbus. So, I'm still not sure what you were responding to. DRG's group is also much harder than July's at MLG Columbus, plus there is an unknown Open bracket player coming as well.
July has horrible ZvZ by koreans standart so struggling against Sheth is not that surprising, and against SjoW I saw the game he lost that was baneling bust who did a lot of dmg but then SjoW did double starport banshee no cloack and made a comeback... But at DreamHack July did very well in pool play even beating ThorZain and HasuObs.
Through this MLG, I want to obtain a Code S seed and meet many of my foreign fans.
Koreans at MLG through the exchangeprogram can't obtain Code S/A-status, nobody told him?
I believe that you cant have already earned a seed and are korean. So i think if you were ever in the GSL Code A/S (not open season) you can not get a spot if you are in korea, but i do not know for sure.
Top player gets an invite to Code S, no matter who it is. If #1 turns it down, #2 gets the option, going on from there. So, if DRG wins, he gets Code S. If he gets #2 to Huk, MVP, Idra, or Alicia, then he'd get the Code S spot as well. He could, in theory, place #5 with those 4 being ahead of him, and still get Code S. Same thing is true for Choya, Qxc, Slog, Naniwa, Boxer, Ganzi, MMA, Oz, or Tgun. (Basically, any of the players that are good and will be back in Korea)
The non-Koreans are up for the 4 Code A spots. The players that definitely wouldn't take a Code A spot (which should be for GSL September, but the Code S is for GSL August, I think), are likely Jinro, Naniwa, Fenix, Sheth and Idra. (Though, from ITG on Tuesday, Idra isn't necessarily against taking a Code S spot at the moment, so maybe that changes the first paragraph)
Given the way things progress throughout the weekend, there's a really good chance the 1st or 2nd placing player won't take the Code S spot. Actually, there's chance that we could have the Championship Bracket finals with 2 Code S players (Huk vs MVP could always happen), thus making the Loser's bracket winner being for a Code S spot. That'd be fun.
Actually, only the champion and the runner-up can get Code S, if both of them have it or doesn't want it, no one will get it.
people are really underestimated naniwa vs drg. i think if he researches nani alittle he will have a good chance but if he really isnt worried like he said nani is going to have a really solid chance of winning as im pretty sure nani will research drg's vods and prepare.
Umm its really not good that hes apparently looking past pool play already.
HuK (scary, on a tear atm) NaNiwa(scary aswell on a slightly lesser tear) TLO(unpredictable, but awesome at whatever he does) HayprO (maybe most unlucky guy in the foreign scene compared to his skill level)
So he DEFINATELY shouldn't be looking past these guys lol.
If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
On July 28 2011 20:21 Megatronn wrote: He's going to get beat by Naniwa and HuK.. sorry fan boys.
Oh and of course TLO gonna bring the 7 rax.
Gotta love hypocrites.
Hey now, i'm a White Ra fan boy. If his group was 3 very good terrans, i'd say he's going to roflstop through it. But two code S caliber protoss will give him so much more trouble.
Through this MLG, I want to obtain a Code S seed and meet many of my foreign fans.
Koreans at MLG through the exchangeprogram can't obtain Code S/A-status, nobody told him?
I believe that you cant have already earned a seed and are korean. So i think if you were ever in the GSL Code A/S (not open season) you can not get a spot if you are in korea, but i do not know for sure.
Top player gets an invite to Code S, no matter who it is. If #1 turns it down, #2 gets the option, going on from there. So, if DRG wins, he gets Code S. If he gets #2 to Huk, MVP, Idra, or Alicia, then he'd get the Code S spot as well. He could, in theory, place #5 with those 4 being ahead of him, and still get Code S. Same thing is true for Choya, Qxc, Slog, Naniwa, Boxer, Ganzi, MMA, Oz, or Tgun. (Basically, any of the players that are good and will be back in Korea)
The non-Koreans are up for the 4 Code A spots. The players that definitely wouldn't take a Code A spot (which should be for GSL September, but the Code S is for GSL August, I think), are likely Jinro, Naniwa, Fenix, Sheth and Idra. (Though, from ITG on Tuesday, Idra isn't necessarily against taking a Code S spot at the moment, so maybe that changes the first paragraph)
Given the way things progress throughout the weekend, there's a really good chance the 1st or 2nd placing player won't take the Code S spot. Actually, there's chance that we could have the Championship Bracket finals with 2 Code S players (Huk vs MVP could always happen), thus making the Loser's bracket winner being for a Code S spot. That'd be fun.
Actually, only the champion and the runner-up can get Code S, if both of them have it or doesn't want it, no one will get it.
"Code S status will not be awarded if all of the players placing 1st-3rd already have Code S Status."
I'd forgotten the 3rd place requirement. Oddly enough, it's only in 1 of the 3 posts MLG made. Probably why I forgot that. Thanks though!
So, the Loser's Final could still be for a Code S slot, though there are only 3 Code S players there right now, so that's *really* unlikely this time around.
Code A slots are 3 assured and a 4th only if Code S doesn't go to a non-Korean.
On July 28 2011 18:54 Taf the Ghost wrote: DRG is good, there's no doubt about that, and maybe there is some subtlety lost in the translation of his comments about his pool. Still, you don't take a little time, when you have 3 weeks to prep for a big tournament (you can get a Code S spot, so it's a big deal), to get a sense of what your opponents will do? Or ask a coach to do that? Just a bad idea.
He might be comfortable vs Terran, but that's because he was ahead of the Meta-game. His ZvT style is seen more often outside of Korea, which might be a bit of surprise to him. (Granted, the first Terran to notice that he's turtling up and takes a defensible 3rd, goes a split Thor + Tank with lots of Marines, and tosses up turrets + Sensor Towers + can beat him)
He's damn good, but he better bring his A game. Everyone saw what happened at Columbus and is adjusting as a result of it. The Koreans are good, but the days of just expecting to win everything are going to be over soon.
July is sub-par by Code S standards and roflstomped pool play. DRG should be fine.
I really don't get how that's a response. July barely got past Sjow & Sheth and lost to MMA in his pool and was playing very well in GSL when he came to Columbus. So, I'm still not sure what you were responding to. DRG's group is also much harder than July's at MLG Columbus, plus there is an unknown Open bracket player coming as well.
He has both HuK and Naniwa in his group and yet he completely disregards group play? Out of all of the groups that a Korean shouldn't be blowing off...
Oh well. Hopefully they bring him back down to earth :D
Well it kind of shows that top tier Koreans see other top Koreans as threats, not any foreigners. And if you look at the previous MLG results, he has a right to do so.
too cocky. great player and predicted him to go 1st in his pool play. after reading this interview i have learned that he hasn't acknowledged Naniwa. Well buddy, Naniwa has acknowledged you, and i think it would be doing yourself a great deed to try and study him.
If not, i have revised my predictions to Naniwa coming if first in pool play. O, and huk ain't too bad either
Ok,I really didn't like his attitude,he's too cocky I hope he gets crashed a little bit.... I think the top Protoss player will be able to beat him(Huk,Naniwa etc). But what I'm really rooting for is him losing to a 6-rax by TLO.. That would be awesome.
If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
I hope Naniwa and Huk destroy DRG.. I'm really excited to see him play and glad that he got invited.. but this is disrespectful to foreigners, considering he's in a group with arguably the best two foreigners right now..
Nice interview, seems like a good guy, if not a little cocky, I hope he does well but I wouldn't mind seeing naniwa or huk beat him juswt to show that they aren't pushovers like he seems to think.
On July 28 2011 21:18 s.a.y wrote: Well it kind of shows that top tier Koreans see other top Koreans as threats, not any foreigners. And if you look at the previous MLG results, he has a right to do so.
With the way his ZvT is right now, he really shouldn't be extra worried about MMA or MVP. What he needs to worry about is that of the world's best Protosses, only 1 is missing from this tournament (that being MC) and he has 2 of them are in his group, and Alicia could join them in that group (depending on how things go).
On July 28 2011 21:47 Wrath 2.1 wrote: tlo is going to make short work of this young arrogant kid.
mhmm, sure..
I laugh at all the fanboys upset over DRG calling the foreigners a walkover. Any interview where a foreigner calls a korean a walkover and you'd be seeing comments like "hell yea this guy is so baller". Honestly hypocrites these days. DRG has no reason to be afraid of foreigners when the majority of them suck.
On July 28 2011 18:08 Tachion wrote: "If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group."
Honestly I'm just reading that as confidence. The "no matter what" just seems like he's showing his determination to advance in the tournament, and he's convinced that the koreans will as well just like last time, and thus is focusing on facing them. I don't think he was dissing the foreigners ;o I mean when he played oGs he was expecting HuK to be their ace. That's respect imo.
That is actually a really good point, he did say he expected huk as the oGs ace. Huk is code S and is surely well known to DRG.
I sure hope he doesn't overlook huk/nani and whoever comes out of open in his pool, but I believe that DRG has great chances in this tournament, even if he doesn't come out as first in his pool. DRG fighting!
This interview just shows how korreans look upon going to a foreign event: The only real competition are the other korreans there and maybe that one guy who still counts as korrean if he does well.
On July 28 2011 21:47 Wrath 2.1 wrote: tlo is going to make short work of this young arrogant kid.
mhmm, sure..
I laugh at all the fanboys upset over DRG calling the foreigners a walkover. Any interview where a foreigner calls a korean a walkover and you'd be seeing comments like "hell yea this guy is so baller". Honestly hypocrites these days. DRG has no reason to be afraid of foreigners when the majority of them suck.
this isn't about the majority of foreigners.. this is about Huk and Naniwa.. two of the best foreigners currently..
On July 28 2011 21:47 Wrath 2.1 wrote: tlo is going to make short work of this young arrogant kid.
mhmm, sure..
I laugh at all the fanboys upset over DRG calling the foreigners a walkover. Any interview where a foreigner calls a korean a walkover and you'd be seeing comments like "hell yea this guy is so baller". Honestly hypocrites these days. DRG has no reason to be afraid of foreigners when the majority of them suck.
Except for the fact that a foreigner in his group has accomplished far more than he has. DRG is great, but huk has done more than he has. Also, he claims to have struggled with ZvP and he has two strong P's in his group (both have taken games off top Koreans). This would be similar to a foreigner calling someone like Byun a walkover. If that happened he wouldn't be called a baller, he'd be called delusional.
DRG has the potential to keep a clean book in his group, but it might not be as easy as he thinks
Naniwa's PvZ is standard passive deathball style which Korean Zergs have been learning how to deal with by now. He beat Moon with it at MLG, but got destroyed at Dreamhack. Huk is a bigger threat, but DRG knows him already from Korean ladder and GSL. TLO has no chance, he'll probably all-in like he tried against Losira and failed miserably.
On July 28 2011 21:47 Wrath 2.1 wrote: tlo is going to make short work of this young arrogant kid.
mhmm, sure..
I laugh at all the fanboys upset over DRG calling the foreigners a walkover. Any interview where a foreigner calls a korean a walkover and you'd be seeing comments like "hell yea this guy is so baller". Honestly hypocrites these days. DRG has no reason to be afraid of foreigners when the majority of them suck.
The only time I recall anyone calling Koreans a walk-over was IdrA in NASL. That was because of the latency, the same issue that led most Koreans to get knocked out in the first two rounds of the TSL.
It would be hypocrisy if there were fans cheering on foreigners saying they'll roll the Koreans - specifically the Koreans - because the Koreans aren't skilled. Difference between DRG calling Foreigners a walkover and a Foreigner calling Koreans a walkover is that one has happened, and one won't happen, so . So I want to head off this argument right quick.
On Topic: Awesome Job, Milkis <3
I wonder what he means by 'stress testing' his vP builds. Is it just that he hasn't run them in a tournament? I read it as that, just wanted to make sure.
In any case, this interview reads like a guy who knows he's the best. He's completely right.
On July 28 2011 23:27 sitromit wrote: Naniwa's PvZ is standard passive deathball style which Korean Zergs have been learning how to deal with by now. He beat Moon with it at MLG, but got destroyed at Dreamhack. Huk is a bigger threat, but DRG knows him already from Korean ladder and GSL. TLO has no chance, he'll probably all-in like he tried against Losira and failed miserably.
Naniwa has a lot of builds that he uses against Zerg, I'm backing Naniwa to make it to the quarter finals at the very least. Huk is amazing but Naniwa's the real threat since his PvZ is so damn good. Either way though, I've heard that DRG is pretty damn good so I'm looking forward to these games.
TLO's been out of practice for so long so I think it'll be tough for him to compete in this group.
I'd rather more overconfident or just plain confident players then everyone being, 'yeah guys, my rape is gon rape the shit out of me, but i hope to play well'.
Haha, MVP is sick good, but since MVP has a code S spot, DRG should focus more on MMA. And I want to say something about be more careful of the foreign players... but honestly, there're no results that says DRG should considering the Korean/Korean-trained domination. But if he feels as if he can write Huk off easily, I'd like to see these new styles of ZvP he mentions.
On July 28 2011 22:41 insaneMicro wrote: Dr. G is a serious badass. HuK used to be able to hang with him on KR ladder, we'll see if his confidence is backed up.
OHHH DAMNNN. I am calling him Dr. G from now on!!!
He's confident, but without disrespecting others. You can say the act of confidence itself is disrespectful to your opponents, but I don't see it like that. It just means he believes in himself.
On July 28 2011 13:42 Hot_Bid wrote: this guy is a boss
every zerg named dong is
truer words never spoken, Hot_Bid (nestea's sc1 name was zergdong)
either way, I believe he is overlooking huk and naniwa severely, huk beat both of the players DRG is looking forward to for a challenge.
EDIT: I just realized about nazgul's post above, dude im so sorry that half of your team is going up against him and nani XD. THEY HAVE A CHANCE THOUGH
Man, you guys read this interview, take it out of context, and are swayed to hang this guy dry.
DRG streamed for TL.net (via Xeph) back when it was taboo to stream your strategies out in public. He took a risk (along with TSL.Clide) and streamed for foreigner fans anyway.
Q. How much do you know about Teamliquid.net and the foreigner scene?
I know that Xeph mirror'ed my stream from Daum Pot and it was posted on TL.net. I tried to find posts in Teamliquid about my stream but I couldn't find any. I think it's good that there are lots of leagues and events to participate in the foreign scene, however if I wasn't in Korea I think that I would be able to post a lot of good results in these tournaments. Nevertheless foreigners are still good unlike Brood War. I've played players like (T)Jinro, (P)HuK, and (Z)DIMAGA on ladder and I think that (P)HuK is the best foreigner in starcraft 2.
You may notice that DRG tends to keep it real and doesn't sugarcoat like most Koreans do. Maybe it's a bit tactless, but I personally find it quite refreshing. MMA's interview reminds me of what 95% of Korean pros would say in interviews in BW. *shiver* (MC comparatively does a lot of showboating).
I mean the guy carries his team and is 11-1 in GSTLs. He beats MKP, MC, Nada, MMA. He's a motherfucking boss IMO.
Actually i don't see him being disrespectful to foreigner players at all. I think he means that he doesn't care about his pool which is pretty reasonable. He knows Huk, he can assume Naniwa is around Huk's level, maybe he beats Huk a few times on ladder so he knows what Huk is capable of and so is Nani. MMA and Losira took the 1st and 2nd spots in the last MLG, so if he looks at them as an equal then he should be concerned more about his Korean fellows since they are the ones whom he is gonna face him in top 4. I know many people would laugh if he got knocked out of group stage which is possible. But i'll feel bad for him since i really wants to see him fighting against MMA in the final for the code S spot.
He hasn't prepared for the pool play...Well, I think HuK and Naniwa are going to give him a great surprise. I really want Naniwa to be the number one of his group.
Your pool in MLG Anaheim consists of NaNiwa, HayprO, TLO, and HuK. How do you feel about your group?
If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
Wow he is confident in himself. Then again, he's good. But Liquid guys, prove him wrong!!!
On July 29 2011 00:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: He's confident, but without disrespecting others. You can say the act of confidence itself is disrespectful to your opponents, but I don't see it like that. It just means he believes in himself.
He's obviously wrong though.
I don't know... he clearly puts some players far below the korean competition, and he isn't even acknowledging them. I like MMA's attitude way more so I will hope MMA does better. I wouldn't mind HuK or Naniwa beating him in the group stages, though I suppose I already wanted them to before the event.
On July 28 2011 13:40 red4ce wrote: Thanks a lot Milkis. DRG sounds pretty confident but he shouldn't overlook Huk and Naniwa. I admit I am rooting for IMMVP but since MVP is already code S DRG can still get the code S seed as runner up.
I actually visit TeamLiquid often and read every comment about me. During the last MLG, the fans were extremely passionate, so I'm looking forward to seeing if I can feel something like that this time.
Hi Dongraegu!
Overlooking the foreign scene is definitely something i'd recommend to any korean progamer.
On July 29 2011 00:19 Raisauce wrote: Why isn't anyone mentioning Hayder as a threat?? Poor Haypro
I'm not even sure Liquid Haypro qualified as a grandmaster in either EU or US This question would be as if i grabbed a random masters league player on the NA ladder and asked why no one mentioning him as a threat, unfortunately @ this point
Hmmm I just got a picture in my head, of all the players living/staying in the Stockholm prohouse that are going to (might) meet DRG, sitting down together watching vods and picking his game apart together. You know TLO, Haypro, Naniwa, Sjow and (maybe some input from Morrow) all working hard to find a way to take DRG down... and in korea Dr. G is sitting like "poolplay??? LOL tl;dr"
On July 29 2011 00:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: He's confident, but without disrespecting others. You can say the act of confidence itself is disrespectful to your opponents, but I don't see it like that. It just means he believes in himself.
He's obviously wrong though.
i was ready to disagree with you, but then you said that last sentence. really wrapped it all together. lol
You just know TLO is going to have some utterly batshit crazy strategy prepared for DRG. Really want to watch that match. In fact this whole group should be fun to watch.
I don't think he's being too cocky. Worst thing that happens is that he drops a game to something he wasn't expecting from a foreigner. But he's right, his real competition will be the Koreans, who will probably make it out of most of the groups and in the open bracket. It only makes sense to prepare for them.
You guys do realize that HuK was practicing against Dongraegu on stream a couple of weeks ago. HuK beat him in an epic game and told him "if you play like that you will do well at MLG." At least I think it was Dongraegu because he's the only korean zerg I know of going to Anaheim. Here's the link: http://www.twitch.tv/liquidhuk/b/290108482 part 2 conversation starts at 1:21:22. Can anyone confirm who this is?
I started this post a couple hours ago, found the vod and realized it isn't Dongraegu because the zerg implies he's competing in the open bracket. I'm still interested who this is because none of the MLG Anaheim articles I read listed a korean zerg in the open bracket. I am wondering if it was FXOtgun because he is/was residing in korea, but I don't think his name would be in korean if that was the case... :S
On July 29 2011 04:13 Seldentar wrote: You guys do realize that HuK was practicing against Dongraegu on stream a couple of weeks ago. HuK beat him in an epic game and told him "if you play like that you will do well at MLG." At least I think it was Dongraegu because he's the only korean zerg I know of going to Anaheim. Here's the link: http://www.twitch.tv/liquidhuk/b/290108482 part 2 conversation starts at 1:21:22. Can anyone confirm who this is?
I started this post a couple hours ago, found the vod and realized it isn't Dongraegu because the zerg implies he's competing in the open bracket. I'm still interested who this is because none of the MLG Anaheim articles I read listed a korean zerg in the open bracket. I am wondering if it was FXOtgun because he is/was residing in korea, but I don't think his name would be in korean if that was the case... :S
i hate arrogance and disregarding huge sections of the world no matter who does it or how justified they are in doing it. However i feel I'll be hugely disappointed with the outcome. as while i'd love for him to be absolutely destroyed in pool i feel the so called foriegners just aren't quite there yet.
they definitely are getting there it won't be too long till we see top foriegners hanging with the best koreans but i don't think it'll be just yet.
On July 29 2011 04:18 magicallypuzzled wrote: i hate arrogance and disregarding huge sections of the world no matter who does it or how justified they are in doing it. However i feel I'll be hugely disappointed with the outcome. as while i'd love for him to be absolutely destroyed in pool i feel the so called foriegners just aren't quite there yet. they definitely are getting there it won't be too long till we see top foriegners hanging with the best koreans but i don't think it'll be just yet.]
Oh come on, ppl have said that since beta and look what happened. The gap is only getting wider.
On July 29 2011 04:18 magicallypuzzled wrote: i hate arrogance and disregarding huge sections of the world no matter who does it or how justified they are in doing it. However i feel I'll be hugely disappointed with the outcome. as while i'd love for him to be absolutely destroyed in pool i feel the so called foriegners just aren't quite there yet. they definitely are getting there it won't be too long till we see top foriegners hanging with the best koreans but i don't think it'll be just yet.]
Oh come on, ppl have said that since beta and look what happened. The gap is only getting wider.
I disagree. Foreigners and koreans were even in the beta, and we were saying no such thing about "getting better". Now the koreans have pulled ahead slightly (or at least the -top- koreans,) but foreigners are learning from them... building practice houses and stronger methods of coaching, playing as actual teams... there is definitely an incentive and a possibility to compete, even with the best of koreans in the near future.
Haha, he isn't paying attention to his pool, and only focusing on the other Korean players.
He won't win his group, Huk and Naniwa are too good to lose to someone who doesn't respect them if what he says is true and not hype. I also hope TLO takes him out with some 6 rax mass rine.
On July 29 2011 08:18 BronzeKnee wrote: Haha, he isn't paying attention to his pool, and only focusing on the other Korean players.
He won't win his group, Huk and Naniwa are too good to lose to someone who doesn't respect them if what he says is true and not hype. I also hope TLO takes him out with some 6 rax mass rine.
On a side note, it always makes me chuckle when interviews with Koreans tend to carry the tone of: ---------------- Dear DRG, We like you. Do you like us? [ ] yes [ ] no Love, Foreigners. ----------------
On July 29 2011 08:18 BronzeKnee wrote: Haha, he isn't paying attention to his pool, and only focusing on the other Korean players.
He won't win his group, Huk and Naniwa are too good to lose to someone who doesn't respect them if what he says is true and not hype. I also hope TLO takes him out with some 6 rax mass rine.
LOL.
Anyways, I expect no less than top 3 for DRG, if not first. He's just too good for this group. And yes, the only people that will give him a run for his money will be other koreans (maybe idra too). The rest stand almost no chance.
why do i have a feeling that MMA is going to win the tournament again? MMA is actually studying the foreigners style which will be tremendous. I'm not saying DRG is going to finish last in his group but he and most other korean players should take some time out to know their opponents. It's not broodwar where koreans can just roflstomp by playing standard. I'm Korean and I hope the some of the korean players lose to strong foreign players like naniwa and Huk so they realize that foreigners aren't easy.
On July 29 2011 09:07 ssi.bal-listic wrote: why do i have a feeling that MMA is going to win the tournament again? MMA is actually studying the foreigners style which will be tremendous. I'm not saying DRG is going to finish last in his group but he and most other korean players should take some time out to know their opponents. It's not broodwar where koreans can just roflstomp by playing standard. I'm Korean and I hope the some of the korean players lose to strong foreign players like naniwa and Huk so they realize that foreigners aren't easy.
All the players hwaiting!
DRG considers HuK as korean. And that's probably Haypro who has the most chance of beating him, not Huk or NaNiWa
On July 29 2011 09:07 ssi.bal-listic wrote: why do i have a feeling that MMA is going to win the tournament again? MMA is actually studying the foreigners style which will be tremendous. I'm not saying DRG is going to finish last in his group but he and most other korean players should take some time out to know their opponents. It's not broodwar where koreans can just roflstomp by playing standard. I'm Korean and I hope the some of the korean players lose to strong foreign players like naniwa and Huk so they realize that foreigners aren't easy.
All the players hwaiting!
DRG considers HuK as korean. And that's probably Haypro who has the most chance of beating him, not Huk or NaNiWa
thats not the point. My point is that these Korean players better not be so arrogant. As much as I support the koreans, I support the foreigners too since I'm 1.5 generation.
Oh goodness, so many people are upset by DRG's choice words, hes right you know, all the foreigners outside of Idra and Naniwa had a pitiful showing against the Koreans in MLG Columbus. Its not like he insulted us, whats with the hostility towards him?
On July 29 2011 09:07 ssi.bal-listic wrote: why do i have a feeling that MMA is going to win the tournament again? MMA is actually studying the foreigners style which will be tremendous. I'm not saying DRG is going to finish last in his group but he and most other korean players should take some time out to know their opponents. It's not broodwar where koreans can just roflstomp by playing standard. I'm Korean and I hope the some of the korean players lose to strong foreign players like naniwa and Huk so they realize that foreigners aren't easy.
All the players hwaiting!
DRG considers HuK as korean. And that's probably Haypro who has the most chance of beating him, not Huk or NaNiWa
thats not the point. My point is that these Korean players better not be so arrogant. As much as I support the koreans, I support the foreigners too since I'm 1.5 generation.
Just wondering but why he is not allowed to think like that? With the current results don't think you think he got it fairly on the mark? So far only the TSL got an actual foreigner winning (huk is korean trained in this case)
So he's got Huk and Nani in his group, yet he's not even preparing to fight against them? That just pisses me off... no not only koreans are a force to be reckoned with
Oh I didn't know he could speak (or at least type) English. It'd be great to see him being interviewed in English, I love hearing all of the accents you get at international tournaments.
Losira raped naniwa at columbus and im pretty sure he didnt know anything about him...so y is everyone getting their panties in a bunch about DRG's comments. No one else is even a moderate threat except for huk. So y should DRG be worried about group play lol...
On July 29 2011 04:18 magicallypuzzled wrote: i hate arrogance and disregarding huge sections of the world no matter who does it or how justified they are in doing it. However i feel I'll be hugely disappointed with the outcome. as while i'd love for him to be absolutely destroyed in pool i feel the so called foriegners just aren't quite there yet. they definitely are getting there it won't be too long till we see top foriegners hanging with the best koreans but i don't think it'll be just yet.]
Oh come on, ppl have said that since beta and look what happened. The gap is only getting wider.
I disagree. Foreigners and koreans were even in the beta, and we were saying no such thing about "getting better". Now the koreans have pulled ahead slightly (or at least the -top- koreans,) but foreigners are learning from them... building practice houses and stronger methods of coaching, playing as actual teams... there is definitely an incentive and a possibility to compete, even with the best of koreans in the near future.
The gap is widening no amount of wishful thinking changes that fact.
If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
He's good, but I hope Huk and Nani give him a rude awakening in group play.
On July 29 2011 04:18 magicallypuzzled wrote: i hate arrogance and disregarding huge sections of the world no matter who does it or how justified they are in doing it. However i feel I'll be hugely disappointed with the outcome. as while i'd love for him to be absolutely destroyed in pool i feel the so called foriegners just aren't quite there yet. they definitely are getting there it won't be too long till we see top foriegners hanging with the best koreans but i don't think it'll be just yet.]
Oh come on, ppl have said that since beta and look what happened. The gap is only getting wider.
I disagree. Foreigners and koreans were even in the beta, and we were saying no such thing about "getting better". Now the koreans have pulled ahead slightly (or at least the -top- koreans,) but foreigners are learning from them... building practice houses and stronger methods of coaching, playing as actual teams... there is definitely an incentive and a possibility to compete, even with the best of koreans in the near future.
The gap is widening no amount of wishful thinking changes that fact.
There was a gap even back in beta, though alot smaller than it was now. Players like ogsthestc, tester, ogscool, etc. were very well known to be the top guns during beta. Now though it's a completely different story. The gap is wider than ever, and is continuing to widen from the looks of it.
He should be cognizant of NaNi and HuK, two very good protoss players. Regardless, I expect a top4 finish from DRG at the minimum. Good luck at Anaheim!
I hope you're reading this DRG...you have a hard pool bro. Dont let your guard down. HuK has been destroying the likes of koreans/non-koreans alike. Naniwa always does well in big tournies.
On July 29 2011 10:28 nick1689 wrote: So he's got Huk and Nani in his group, yet he's not even preparing to fight against them? That just pisses me off... no not only koreans are a force to be reckoned with
Someone's not making it past group play :X
Huk is considered korean because of his OGSness. And we listened to all this fun-filled foreigner pride last time Losira met Naniwa, and when MMA said it will be an all Korean finals. I forget... howd that end again?
"two of the Terran players I acknowledge (MVP, MMA) "
Nothing about Boxer? Did he just forget that Boxer will be there or does he think nothing of him? Anyway, I'm hoping Boxer will take this whole thing, but I also look forward to DRG making it pretty far and showing us some good games.
Honestly, I really hope DRG gets annihilated in the pool play just to make him realize the foreigners aren't as insignificant as he thinks they are... But I also hope he can recover and do well in the brackets afterward!
Team Liquid members echo the same sentiments anyway. I wouldn't attribute it to disrespect but more to confidence. We will have some insane games coming up.
Not sure if this has been said before ITT, but isn't the Code S invite from MLG only for foreigners? i.e. If a Korean wins it still goes to the top foreigner, similar to how the code A spots were done? I seem to remember this being true, in which case he's gonna be a bit disappointed I think!
On July 29 2011 13:17 MichaelDonovan wrote: "two of the Terran players I acknowledge (MVP, MMA) "
Nothing about Boxer? Did he just forget that Boxer will be there or does he think nothing of him? Anyway, I'm hoping Boxer will take this whole thing, but I also look forward to DRG making it pretty far and showing us some good games.
Well tbh Boxer isn't playing anywhere near his former glory nowadays, not to bad mouth him, but it's just a fact. To answer your question, no, he probably doesn't fear him at all.
On July 29 2011 15:03 Sakarabu wrote: Not sure if this has been said before ITT, but isn't the Code S invite for MLG only for foreigners? i.e. If a Korean wins it still goes to the top foreigner? I seem to remember this being true, in which case he's gonna be a bit disappointed I think!
On July 29 2011 13:17 MichaelDonovan wrote: "two of the Terran players I acknowledge (MVP, MMA) "
Nothing about Boxer? Did he just forget that Boxer will be there or does he think nothing of him? Anyway, I'm hoping Boxer will take this whole thing, but I also look forward to DRG making it pretty far and showing us some good games.
Well tbh Boxer isn't playing anywhere near his former glory nowadays, not to bad mouth him, but it's just a fact. To answer your question, no, he probably doesn't fear him at all.
In GSL Open Season 2 - Nestea said he was shaking when he was facing Boxer. He feared the emperor.
Sadly that doesn't happen anymore :\.
Though there was a time Flash may have been shaking in his booth (okay well not really but hey Boxer was somewhat feared back 3-4 years back[not in his prime but still good])
A lot of people forgetting just how badly Losira decimated Naniwa at MLG, his PvZ is extremely shaky, by his own admission. DRG will take him pretty handily, I only see Huk having a chance versus DRG.
On July 29 2011 16:38 SamsLiST wrote: Losiras ZvP then was another thing as DRGs now -and also Protoss shifted style vs Z in some ways imo. looking foward to it def.
Same. Only thing that worries me is that he said he didn't even bother to look at his group, which could definitely lead to some upsets.
On July 29 2011 16:38 SamsLiST wrote: Losiras ZvP then was another thing as DRGs now -and also Protoss shifted style vs Z in some ways imo. looking foward to it def.
No one but maybe HuK knows what DRG's ZvP looks like right now. 20 days ago he rated his ZvT an 8/10 and ZvP 6.5/10. Take into account that his 8/10 is prob the best ZvT in the world right now :p Maybe his ZvP has risen even more since then, maybe it's gone down. Will be exciting to see though that's for sure.
what is probably goinh to happen to alot of koreans in MLG is that they fixate on their fellow country-men, and think about what they will do against them in the finals, yet they will come across someone like Huk, Naniwa etc, dramatically underestimate them and loose...badly and tbh I welcome this, Koreans are flying all over the world liek they are a race of god's, and they need a loss to bring them down to earth.... here's hoping the non-koreans put up an amazing fight
On July 29 2011 09:07 ssi.bal-listic wrote: why do i have a feeling that MMA is going to win the tournament again? MMA is actually studying the foreigners style which will be tremendous. I'm not saying DRG is going to finish last in his group but he and most other korean players should take some time out to know their opponents. It's not broodwar where koreans can just roflstomp by playing standard. I'm Korean and I hope the some of the korean players lose to strong foreign players like naniwa and Huk so they realize that foreigners aren't easy.
All the players hwaiting!
DRG considers HuK as korean. And that's probably Haypro who has the most chance of beating him, not Huk or NaNiWa
thats not the point. My point is that these Korean players better not be so arrogant. As much as I support the koreans, I support the foreigners too since I'm 1.5 generation.
You know the only person who ever says he's going to lose in an interview is Mondragon? I'm quite sure almost every other person says they going to do well. It's not like he's just going to ignore playing ZvZ/ZvP and just practice builds for MMA and MVP.
People love to create drama even where there is none. It's amazing
I'm surprised that no one brought up that the interview:
* could be conspiracy by DongRaeGu to make people treat him less seriously while he secretly research his opponents in preparation for absolute rampage. * cannot be trusted completely as the history has shown that Milkis lack journalistic integrity
On July 30 2011 00:55 Faraday5001 wrote: what is probably goinh to happen to alot of koreans in MLG is that they fixate on their fellow country-men, and think about what they will do against them in the finals, yet they will come across someone like Huk, Naniwa etc, dramatically underestimate them and loose...badly and tbh I welcome this, Koreans are flying all over the world liek they are a race of god's, and they need a loss to bring them down to earth.... here's hoping the non-koreans put up an amazing fight
In your dreams... then you'll wake up and discover that the top 3 is Korean
(don't forget about all Koreans in the open bracket btw)
I think hes underestimating the power of Huk and Naniwa. Both are world class players, and should not be taken that lightly. I would understand about Haypro and TLO though.
On July 30 2011 05:41 Eboceixa wrote: Overconfident.
He is going to loose at least a game vs a good non-korean for sure.
Well its a mind game. Would you rather approach a tournament telling yourself you are the best or telling yourself you will get destroyed? I can't see the 2nd one help you at all. Take for example MC, when he is is "gaming mode" he gets into this overconfident attitude and shows off, and that can at some point can destabilize the opponent. As long as you can be humble when you lose, i don't see why this attitude would be bad. It can give you that ego boost you need to play your best in a such a situation and that cab only be a plus.
I don't believe he is underestimating players like HuK or Naniwa, im pretty sure he is aware of how good they are. Like I said it looks like he is just trying to get other player to fear him bases on how confident he seems to be.
I hope this dude gets swept out of his group, theres a difference between confidence and arrogance, and this dude is on Idra vs. Cruncher level. gogo Nani+Team Liquid!
On July 30 2011 07:36 Chinchillin wrote: I hope this dude gets swept out of his group, theres a difference between confidence and arrogance, and this dude is on Idra vs. Cruncher level. gogo Nani+Team Liquid!
He just said in an interview he prepared a lot for Nani. Obviously he wasnt gonna give a dude confidence before a game by saying "Yeah I'm so worried about these dudes"... Stop being so sensitive -.-
DRG's games against HuK and NaNiwa were amazing. Really reinforces how impressive Korean gamers are, and how far the foreign community is behind. Top four in all groups are Koreans as of Day 1... GG.
On July 28 2011 14:07 sc2olorin wrote: I hope he DOES continue to underestimate his opponents in pool play going into this, so that he gets absolutely manhandled by HuK and Naniwa and get brought back to Earth a little bit.
gogo foreigners at Anaheim
What...
On July 28 2011 14:33 jdreamer wrote: He's good and skilled but sometimes, his attitude makes me feel that he's a little too cocky even before winning any major tournaments.
DRG, the world isn't only about Korea, alright? Show respect and people will respect you back.
is...
On July 28 2011 14:44 paperpsy wrote: DRG is like MC only with 1 percent of his results and none of the humor.
up...
On July 28 2011 14:55 Goatlust88 wrote: I hope he gets crushed and eliminated really early. Nothing against the guy I just don't like his attitude.
now..
On July 28 2011 15:06 ronpaul012 wrote: so cocky. Hes in one of the toughest groups in mlg history, and he thinks hes going to stomp them without preparing? I will be rooting for him to get his ass stomped.
silly doubters....
On July 28 2011 16:23 bonse wrote: What a pompous fool. He's only Code B and want's a shortcut to Code S... pathetic. His weakest match-up is ZvP and he comes jet-lagged and unprepared to face Huk and Naniwa. He won't get to the next round even.
5-0 group play? see ya tomorrow on champion sunday chumps! DRG FIGHTING!
DongRaeGu: If I had to be honest, I haven't paid any attention to pool play. I'm preparing to face the Korean players since no matter what, I'm going to win all my games and make it to the Round of Four as the first place in my group.
DRG vs BoxeR upper bracket finals + Grand finals PLEASE :D would make for the most awesome finals, even if it will be 1 sided, so much would be on the line!!!!!!!!!!!!
On August 02 2011 13:27 rabitslayer wrote: DRG has been one of my favorite players since he was playing random in the team league and brought his team to the finals.
GuineaPig is the random player on MVP, DongRaeGu was always Zerg. And for all you haters, 92% win rate at GSTL against insanely good players, and 5-0 at MLG, losing only one game against HuK on Shakuras Plateau (map known for PvZ imbalance).
I'm sad DRG didn't get the code S spot. Does he even get a Code A invite? I know that the top 4 nonkoreans at MLG get a code A invite (Ret's GF told me Ret got invited). Sucks if the koreans don't get code A invites while the nonkoreans who didn't perform nearly as well as them do.
EPT
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NaNiwa, 
HayprO, 
TLO, and 
DongRaeGu 
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