EG signs PuMa, responds to criticism - Page 64

On July 27 2011 03:43 Djzapz wrote:

EG says it's fine so it's fine? Come on. Koreans have many "spoken contracts" basically, and EG went and talked to the player without contacting the team, etc.

On July 27 2011 03:49 cavalier117 wrote:


If Korea cant compete with the big boys, its time to go back to the kiddie pool. US snagging players? you say it like we abduct them against their will and force them to play... stop being a drama queen. grow up. and figure out how events are really happening.

as for Korea, being isolationist? it took them the better part of this year to figure out the western scene even existed.... even though we have more fans. better fans. more tourneys. and more money for prizes. oh, and EVERY one of those tournies are much more player friendly than the GSL, you are not locked into a month long commitment and face the possibility of losing your Code seed, if you miss a day and go abroad.

you have to be pretty unaware of whats going on to let that happen. and thats why Korean teams are struggling with money.

On July 27 2011 03:55 Tleaf wrote:
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Yeah I wish he would apologize to Milkis but the apology to coach lee was a great gesture

On July 27 2011 03:56 Grimsong wrote:

And then you went and lumped Milikis into that point? That's just grasping at straws and using buzzwords to stir up controversy and drama. Milikis is completely separate from this issue of TSL/EG/Puma.

Yes, it's definitely a trash scene that a kid gets to professional game via contract around the world. Trash trash trash.

On July 27 2011 03:57 originalred04 wrote:
Point of order the Milkis situation has nothing to do with this current argument so stop making emotional blunders in your attempt to be logical.

On July 27 2011 03:59 Condor Hero wrote:

what an insult to the koreans for dominating the sport they are competing in.
if sc2 dies in korea, then EVERYBODY loses cuz the audience sees shitty foreign players in the finals of every tournament (by shitty i mean comparatively shitty)

On July 27 2011 03:51 Djzapz wrote:

Maybe I'm not too familiar with the way stuff is handled in every sport, but from my experience you don't go behind a team's back and directly approach a player trying to get them to join your team. This may happen in the minor leagues, like where the children play or something... Which I guess is what EG does because you wouldn't think an ADULT would bash Milkis like that. Things may be different in this scene?

But what do I know, really, maybe the SC2 scene is just trash and we should accept things like this. I like to think that it's not the case.


Respect for a culture and a way of doing things, but I guess EG might US it up and just force a people to change its way of doing things. Kick the doors in and say now we own this place.

On July 27 2011 04:01 Hawk wrote:


Every other sport has contracts with clear terms describing the conditions of employment, and there's a governing body to determine how transfers happen. There is no contract here. It is an at will employment situation

And again, that doesnt answer the question. Why is it that you think Korea customs are automatically the norm in a transaction between two teams in two different countries in an international sport?? Everyone keeps falling back to that but it makes no sense. If anything, it proves the need for some kind of Kespa system

On July 27 2011 04:05 originalred04 wrote:
Nah no nerve was hit, Just stating that you are mixing up 2 different issues. I guess the US invented contracts...ever heard of Kespa??? Oh wait my bad America is the cause of every wrong in the world, silly me.

On July 26 2011 09:05 CellTech wrote:
Thanks for your side of the story.

Although, I believe EG may have indirectly sparked kespa 2.0
Puma was really becoming the Ace of a team that didn't "yet" have enough sponsors to support him as well as EG. imo. This was EG looking at Puma and whispering to themselves "omg, no salary, no contract, he's awesome, let's get him". If EG *really* cared about having top tier players it wouldn't contradict itself with much of it's current roster.

Puma hwaiting, and best of luck.

On July 27 2011 04:05 originalred04 wrote:
Guess I hit a nerve. I wasn't using logic at all. (Logic is a rather specific thing!)

EG's administration can be immature and that's why I brought up Milkis. Might as well have brought up this OP, which is nothing short of "I'm sorry but I did nothing wrong" like 10 times.

On July 27 2011 04:01 Hawk wrote:
And again, that doesnt answer the question. Why is it that you think Korea customs are automatically the norm in a transaction between two teams in two different countries in an international sport?? Everyone keeps falling back to that but it makes no sense. If anything, it proves the need for some kind of Kespa system

On July 27 2011 04:01 NightAngel wrote:


When non-Koreans get better, does that mean we can then dismiss Korea? Food for thought.

On July 27 2011 03:59 Condor Hero wrote:

what an insult to the koreans for dominating the sport they are competing in.
if sc2 dies in korea, then EVERYBODY loses cuz the audience sees shitty foreign players in the finals of every tournament (by shitty i mean comparatively shitty)