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Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 26 2011 00:42 GMT
#441
On July 26 2011 09:41 T0fuuu wrote:
Soooo. Any chance of a gsl map sneaking in again? I hope that tournaments have tested out which of the new maps are worth having in the pool. Would hate to see MLG get bitten for being slow changing their pool as well.


I would like to see Crevasse instead of Backwater or Typhon or Shattered.
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 00:43:32
July 26 2011 00:43 GMT
#442
Removing meta is more than understandable. The game needs constant new maps in order to fight off repetitious play and sterility. I'm sorry to meta fans and pythons fan out there, but maps like that HURT the community. Maps which are disproportionately played and become basically a sacred cow that no one can conceive of not being there? Not a good thing. I think its odd they kept some terrible maps while removing meta- like backwater- but the removal of meta in and of itself is not only a smart thing, its a necessary thing.
Kid-Fox
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada400 Posts
July 26 2011 00:45 GMT
#443
Well, at least they're finally getting rid of Delta Quad.
Why take out metalo? it's a good map >< I'm half and half with scrap station as well.

Not too impressed with the new maps. Hopefully blizz one day realizes that backdoor rocks do not make maps.
Minored
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil88 Posts
July 26 2011 00:45 GMT
#444
lol they remove metalopolis and Backwater Gulch still in.. go figure
go ahead, make my day.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
July 26 2011 00:45 GMT
#445
finally metalopolis is gone
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
July 26 2011 00:47 GMT
#446
Well i guess metal was getting old. But i damn well will miss it but other than that finally blizzard taking out the maps i vetoed
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 26 2011 00:47 GMT
#447
Removing Metalopolis while keeping a trash map like Backwater Gulch. I mean I can understand it's old and probably due for replacement, but can't we do better than Backwater Gulch? There is a half dozen maps from GSL that would be much better choices. Also no fixing/removing of "close position" spawning being announced makes me disappointed.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
noax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada150 Posts
July 26 2011 00:49 GMT
#448
WHAT WHY METALOPOLIS!?!?!? that's dumbest decision ever... Metalopolis is considered the most balanced map by pro gamer as far as i know... that's stupid... anyway let see !
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
July 26 2011 00:49 GMT
#449
Remove Metal but Leave in The Shattered Temple, WTF? Both of them have the close spawn issue. Sigh..., it's hopeless at this point.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
samd
Profile Joined July 2011
United States77 Posts
July 26 2011 00:51 GMT
#450
On July 26 2011 09:49 twndomn wrote:
Remove Metal but Leave in The Shattered Temple, WTF? Both of them have the close spawn issue. Sigh..., it's hopeless at this point.


the main issue wasn't the close spawns, it was the insane zerg bias on the map
wat
eschenbach
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14 Posts
July 26 2011 00:54 GMT
#451
I was really hoping to see blizzard add some of the successful recent tournament maps to the pool, like Terminus or Crevasse. Given all of the awesome games that those maps have produced at the super high levels recently, I thought that they would have really spiced up the ladder pool.

Other than that, I think the changes are all pretty solid. I'll miss metalopolis, but hopefully the new maps can make up for its absence.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 01:06:19
July 26 2011 00:58 GMT
#452
Does anybody know if one of the new 2v2 maps is actually a three Team Spawn (6 total spawns) map like it was previewed. I would really prefer that as a map just because it would look really cool and is a new and interesting feel. That being said I like more maps like Tempest that have four Team Spawns (8 total spawns).

EDIT:


On July 26 2011 09:51 samd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:49 twndomn wrote:
Remove Metal but Leave in The Shattered Temple, WTF? Both of them have the close spawn issue. Sigh..., it's hopeless at this point.


the main issue wasn't the close spawns, it was the insane zerg bias on the map

I'm sorry, what?

Since when was there a Zerg bias on Metalopolis? I'm a Terran player, and if you had to pick from Metalopolis or Shattered Temple and say which one was more Zerg favored, I would say Shattered in a heartbeat. Shattered Temple allows the Zerg to constantly watch your mineral line as well as having the most wide open middle of almost any map. I'm not saying that either Metalopolis or Shattered is OP or imba, but Metalopolis especially is not Zerg "biased" as you call it. Please don't post things that are completely untrue and have no evidence supporting it.
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 01:01:23
July 26 2011 01:00 GMT
#453
Wow Metalopolis...
Olsson
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden931 Posts
July 26 2011 01:00 GMT
#454
On July 26 2011 09:51 samd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:49 twndomn wrote:
Remove Metal but Leave in The Shattered Temple, WTF? Both of them have the close spawn issue. Sigh..., it's hopeless at this point.


the main issue wasn't the close spawns, it was the insane zerg bias on the map


The reason for removing metal was repetition and close spawn positions that couldnt be solved in a good manor. As the post says. Zerg isnt biased on Metalopolis, far position Metalopolis is the most balanced map in the game.
Naniwa <3
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
July 26 2011 01:03 GMT
#455
seriously? metalopolis is not a good map. It is just the best one from the first batch of ladder maps.
I for one am glad that it good removed and hope blizzard will improve it in the future.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
July 26 2011 01:03 GMT
#456
They take out the most balanced map of all time (barring close spawn ofc, which could've been an easy change made to the map). Epic face palm.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 26 2011 01:04 GMT
#457
On July 26 2011 10:00 Olsson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:51 samd wrote:
On July 26 2011 09:49 twndomn wrote:
Remove Metal but Leave in The Shattered Temple, WTF? Both of them have the close spawn issue. Sigh..., it's hopeless at this point.


the main issue wasn't the close spawns, it was the insane zerg bias on the map


The reason for removing metal was repetition and close spawn positions that couldnt be solved in a good manor. As the post says. Zerg isnt biased on Metalopolis, far position Metalopolis is the most balanced map in the game.

Why, because you say it is?

Blizzard reports 60%+ win percentage for top tier zergs on that map, and that is including close positions which many zergs claim to be autoloss. How big do you imagine the zerg win percentage for cross positions to be?
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 26 2011 01:05 GMT
#458
On July 26 2011 09:49 noax wrote:
WHAT WHY METALOPOLIS!?!?!? that's dumbest decision ever... Metalopolis is considered the most balanced map by pro gamer as far as i know... that's stupid... anyway let see !


You don't know much -.- 60% zerg favored. It's one of the most zerg biased maps. Because zergs make up 90% of the whiners, you don't see any whine about the map.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
July 26 2011 01:06 GMT
#459
Take out metal leave in shattered temple, WTF?
I play Protoss, because lets face it, who doesn't love hyper-advanced Egyptian ninja-aliens that kill people with lightsabres attached to both arms?
Giwoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 01:11:46
July 26 2011 01:08 GMT
#460
yeahhhh!
fuck scrap DQ and slag pits!
and thats kinda gay how metal got taken off as well

On July 26 2011 10:06 gosuMalicE wrote:
Take out metal leave in shattered temple, WTF?


dude ST is like one of the best maps


On July 26 2011 10:05 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:49 noax wrote:
WHAT WHY METALOPOLIS!?!?!? that's dumbest decision ever... Metalopolis is considered the most balanced map by pro gamer as far as i know... that's stupid... anyway let see !


You don't know much -.- 60% zerg favored. It's one of the most zerg biased maps. Because zergs make up 90% of the whiners, you don't see any whine about the map.


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