The Korean Experience by FXOBoSs - Page 13

On July 16 2011 00:25 awwnuts07 wrote:
10-12 hours of practice? That sounds about right. Don't professional athletes practice around the same amount? Why should professional gaming be any different?

BTW, thanks for the insight. Maybe now Westerners will stop trying to cut corners and just put in the work.

On July 16 2011 08:28 andy3331 wrote:
Good read, very interesting stuff, but I do have to rant.
I love what FXO has done, really I do, but posts like this one just perpetuate something that really should bother more people.

The idea that you put behind this is basically that unless you go to korea or practice the korean way you will never be good. Of course thats a generalization of the idea, but I'm just sick of this and I expect more from a team that genuinely seems interested in being a top tier competitor. Look at every sport the US competes in. Literally, every sport. Do track/soccer/football/basketball/baseball/swimming/archery/cycling/fencing/volleyball (etc...) athletes that come from U.S.A. sit at home half assing their practice and wax poetically about how if they were in ______ (insert country here) they would be soo much better? No, they absolutely do not. They practice their ass off WHERE THEY ARE, developing new techniques and learning off of like minded individuals. They know they will get better not because of where they are but because they have dedicated themselves to doing so.
Starcraft pros continue to basically use where they practice as a crutch to their success. This is simply not the case, but a mere excuse and a pathetic one at that.
I do plan to follow this EG team house with great interest. I think if their is any one individual who recognizes this it is incontrol. He knows this house could be just what it takes to push EG's skills into that "korean level." I wasn't a fan of his at first and I still don't think hes the greatest, but I know he WILL work at it and I only hope his enthusiasm and dedication is contagious to those of you who live outside Korea believing the thing that is holding you back is not living there.

And yes, I fully expect no one to agree with me. It's the easiest thing to do.

/rant

On July 16 2011 09:25 suejak wrote:
LOL, I'm glad FXOBoss has no influence on these things, because who the hell wants Tastosis to change? I get the sense the answer is, not many of us. Unstable was, in my opinion, the most boring co-caster we've ever had. Wolf is pretty good, and his dumb jokes are cute. Tastosis's good jokes and dumb jokes are kinda what make them Tastosis. I have no idea why anybody would want them to change.

On July 16 2011 09:36 MonkSEA wrote:
This was pretty good for a "My experiences" blog.. It was crossed "facts", pretty good highlights, and then the killer: serious criticism.

I honestly think that you could of left the criticism out and it would of been a great read, but that part killed it for me, as you were pissing on your casters and qxc, and GOM who did so much for you guys. It just seems you're pretty unappreciative and uncaring towards the effort these people put in, sure it's great you're telling us about the dangers most of us will never encounter.. But why don't you tell GOM about this?

But yeah, if you left the whole GOM criticism part out, then I would of thoroughly enjoyed it, especially the tgun transvestite parts, and the detailed and well de-scripted emotions and feelings in the code a qualifiers.

On July 16 2011 09:25 suejak wrote:
LOL, I'm glad FXOBoss has no influence on these things, because who the hell wants Tastosis to change? I get the sense the answer is, not many of us. Unstable was, in my opinion, the most boring co-caster we've ever had. Wolf is pretty good, and his dumb jokes are cute. Tastosis's good jokes and dumb jokes are kinda what make them Tastosis. I have no idea why anybody would want them to change.

On July 16 2011 09:28 Numy wrote:


Just because you don't want change doesn't mean others don't. I would love to cut some of the jokes and get all the intel the korean commentators give.

On July 16 2011 04:52 koolaid1990 wrote:

You do realize that the korean casters of GSL is 3 people right? And whats the reason for only having two commentators? Have we ever seen a day9 + tastosis cast? no we havent... so we don't know if its good or bad. Personally, i would love a 3 people cast, it feels like a party.

On July 16 2011 10:24 suejak wrote:

Well, I'm all for the intel as well. But I don't want the jokes to go anywhere. I think we can have both.

On July 16 2011 10:29 Numy wrote:


All the filler content are jokes. So the jokes will go if the intel is put in. FXOBoss wasn't talking about the small funny ingame jokes that happen now and then. The constant joking that surrounds the games themselves. So if you want to have what the korean commentators give all that joking falls away. You can't have both. Unless you didn't quite understand what he was talking about.

On July 16 2011 08:01 sc2olorin wrote:
good post, BoSs

I think much of the problems foreign casters have when filling time comes down to a lack of preparedness. If the casters watched half as much Starcraft as I do, or even just spent more time researching players' histories with one another, making greater efforts to pre-interview players before matches to get their thoughts, etc., then they would have so much to talk about that having to fill time with bad jokes would never be something that arised.

Day9 for example is one of the few casters that knows how to seemlessly integrate his knowledge about the players into his casting. Now that he has no time obligations involved with school, I think we will see him rise far above the rest in terms of professionalism and player knowledge.

It is easily apparent for an astute GSL watcher to glean the fact that Tasteless does not watch much if any SC2 outside of the games he casts. I cannot remember a time where his knowledge about a particular player was impressive, other than the rare times that he and Artosis take the opportunity to speak to a player before a match. Artosis, while clearly watching a large amount of SC2 outside the GSL, does not integrate this into his casting nearly enough, which could be down to a simple memory problem that could be corrected with more time devoted to research before each match.