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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 15 2011 19:58 GMT
#221
So all of the Mountain Dew I buy (and that's A LOT of Dew) was helping out FXO and I didn't know about it? Time to buy more

But on a more serious note that was a great write up and as always I'm impressed with FXO as a team and Boss as a person. The dedication you put into the community is huge and hope you get rewarded for it in the future.

Also how will competeing in Korea work (if it will at all) once everyone moves into the house? Will Sheth/Moonglade be living there as well? Does FXO plan on competing in the next season of GSTL?
Mano
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States192 Posts
July 15 2011 19:59 GMT
#222
Thanks for the write-up BoSs. I always love your insightful posts about the going ons of the e-sports scene outside of just playing the games.

Keep up all the great work, and good luck in Malaysia!
TSL Fighting! FXO Fighting! League of Legends id: Manoman7
RebelMusic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States66 Posts
July 15 2011 20:11 GMT
#223
Excellent read, enjoyed getting a glimpse through the looking glass into the goings on of a foreign team looking to cut it's teeth in Korea. Please keep 'em coming!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
July 15 2011 20:17 GMT
#224
On July 15 2011 17:23 skrzmark wrote:
The only thing I really dislike about Artosis and Tasteless is, for example from the Super Tournament they give so much praise to a player like Nestea for almost staging a comeback in the games he lost to TOP but they gave no credit to a player to TOP they resorted to saying that TOP cheesed Nestea out of the tournament... They couldn't just say TOP was the better player in the series or he outplayed him? Since Tastosis is so popular their opinion affects how they react to the player, so a lot of people also started bashing TOP.

I may sound like a TOP fanboy with this post... well good because I am one.



This, this ...so much this. A lot of people behave like sheep having no opinions of their own, and choose to blindly parrot whatever tastosis say on the stream, the recent games between Zenio and Hongun being a prime example.

On the other hand, Clide is on of the most overrated players ever to exist on the face of earth, but whenever he does the smallest thing Tastosis start drooling all over him, and a bunch of sheep just blindly spam the LR thread with the same opinion.

At this point I don't know who I am angry at...Tastosis for their biased commentary style, or the sheep who infest the LR thread on every GSL playday.
Envy fan since NTH.
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
July 15 2011 20:19 GMT
#225
Great read konpai
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
Flying_Cake
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada117 Posts
July 15 2011 20:21 GMT
#226
Great article! Thank you for everything you've done for E-Sports!
JBanKs
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
July 15 2011 20:23 GMT
#227
Very nice blog good to hear your thoughts and I look forward to see what you guys do in Malaysia!
Ex-StarTale manager // @BanKseSports on twitter
Aeruru
Profile Joined October 2010
United States22 Posts
July 15 2011 20:26 GMT
#228
It would be great if someone could subtitle a Korean casted GSL game just so that we foreigners can see what their casting is like and then decide based on evidence which format we prefer. I personally like Tastosis casting but I do often wonder what their Korean counterparts are saying. The Korean casters seem to have a lot more to say and I wonder if they would be willing to share some of their prepared material with the English casters.

As for Clide... I'm pretty sure Tastosis's comments about Clide are mostly in good humor. Clide is like an ongoing joke from the first open season of GSL. (I don't mean that Clide is a joke player. Its just that Tasteless and Artosis have so much fun saying his name :p)
hYdeOut
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia25 Posts
July 15 2011 20:31 GMT
#229
FXOBoSs you're a boss. I'll buy you a beer next time you're in Australia (and when I'm in Aus too for that matter!) Thanks for the read and I look forward to seeing the growth of FXOpen in the future!

FXO HWAITING!

PS- It's Japan isn't it?
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
July 15 2011 21:07 GMT
#230
On July 16 2011 05:17 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 17:23 skrzmark wrote:
The only thing I really dislike about Artosis and Tasteless is, for example from the Super Tournament they give so much praise to a player like Nestea for almost staging a comeback in the games he lost to TOP but they gave no credit to a player to TOP they resorted to saying that TOP cheesed Nestea out of the tournament... They couldn't just say TOP was the better player in the series or he outplayed him? Since Tastosis is so popular their opinion affects how they react to the player, so a lot of people also started bashing TOP.

I may sound like a TOP fanboy with this post... well good because I am one.



This, this ...so much this. A lot of people behave like sheep having no opinions of their own, and choose to blindly parrot whatever tastosis say on the stream, the recent games between Zenio and Hongun being a prime example.

On the other hand, Clide is on of the most overrated players ever to exist on the face of earth, but whenever he does the smallest thing Tastosis start drooling all over him, and a bunch of sheep just blindly spam the LR thread with the same opinion.

At this point I don't know who I am angry at...Tastosis for their biased commentary style, or the sheep who infest the LR thread on every GSL playday.


The Clide thing is partly a joke if you hadn't realized.
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
July 15 2011 21:10 GMT
#231
This was a great read. I totaly agree with you about the jokes going on during the GSL. I dont mind when tasteosis pulls off jokes, because they do it at the right time and quickly get back into the game with there amazing analysis. But the new casters, like wolf and what not, theres jokes are badly timed and fucking lame, so I definatly see where your coming from
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
July 15 2011 21:12 GMT
#232
Very interesting write-up of your experiences, thanks for sharing! Just wondering, do you guys have "friendlies" or practice days with any of the korean teams, or is most of your serious practice internal?
StateSC2
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)621 Posts
July 15 2011 21:20 GMT
#233
Great write-up! Very happy to have had the experience of meeting you at MLG.

Best of luck -- Korea sounds like quite the experience!
Fireblast!: "This guy is pointless and wonderful"
LuciferSC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada535 Posts
July 15 2011 21:20 GMT
#234
On July 16 2011 05:26 Aeruru wrote:
It would be great if someone could subtitle a Korean casted GSL game just so that we foreigners can see what their casting is like and then decide based on evidence which format we prefer. I personally like Tastosis casting but I do often wonder what their Korean counterparts are saying. The Korean casters seem to have a lot more to say and I wonder if they would be willing to share some of their prepared material with the English casters.

As for Clide... I'm pretty sure Tastosis's comments about Clide are mostly in good humor. Clide is like an ongoing joke from the first open season of GSL. (I don't mean that Clide is a joke player. Its just that Tasteless and Artosis have so much fun saying his name :p)


Korean commentators tend to start off the match by letting the viewers in on the recent games each players played, commentating on their mental state/attitude heading into the game, discussing builds players are likely to go for based on their play style and other factors.

Commentators always have high certainty when they discuss builds, and have a very good measure of how the players' builds stack up. They are very good at pointing out key points to watch out for, and they do throw in small jokes from time to time.

I have to say Korean commentators are more knowledgeable then English ones (even Tastosis.. as much as I love those two) and are more professional.
They certainly have a huge upper hand when they are discussing player details and their recent history.

The quality of English commentating has been going up steadly, and I hope they can reach higher level.
Come get some
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
July 15 2011 22:18 GMT
#235
Good blog josh love it
Follow me on Instagram @Chef_Betto
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
July 15 2011 22:29 GMT
#236
Great read! Wish you guys the best of luck in Malaysia. Where is the team house? KL? PJ? JB? Penang? There are quite a lot of Malaysian SC2 gamers, and cybercafes are abundant in major cities.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
July 15 2011 22:31 GMT
#237
Why are you going/moving to Malaysia? I missed that part.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
sc2olorin
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
July 15 2011 23:01 GMT
#238
good post, BoSs

I think much of the problems foreign casters have when filling time comes down to a lack of preparedness. If the casters watched half as much Starcraft as I do, or even just spent more time researching players' histories with one another, making greater efforts to pre-interview players before matches to get their thoughts, etc., then they would have so much to talk about that having to fill time with bad jokes would never be something that arised.

Day9 for example is one of the few casters that knows how to seemlessly integrate his knowledge about the players into his casting. Now that he has no time obligations involved with school, I think we will see him rise far above the rest in terms of professionalism and player knowledge.

It is easily apparent for an astute GSL watcher to glean the fact that Tasteless does not watch much if any SC2 outside of the games he casts. I cannot remember a time where his knowledge about a particular player was impressive, other than the rare times that he and Artosis take the opportunity to speak to a player before a match. Artosis, while clearly watching a large amount of SC2 outside the GSL, does not integrate this into his casting nearly enough, which could be down to a simple memory problem that could be corrected with more time devoted to research before each match.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
July 15 2011 23:20 GMT
#239
I think QXC is the best caster I've ever seen. His jokes are funny 95% of the time. His knowledge of the game is unsurpassed. And he is so natural that he puts Wolf at ease and actually makes Wolf a better caster. I am curious what FXOBoss thinks of QXC's casting.
$♥$
FrostyMWheat
Profile Joined May 2011
United States35 Posts
July 15 2011 23:28 GMT
#240
Good read, very interesting stuff, but I do have to rant.
I love what FXO has done, really I do, but posts like this one just perpetuate something that really should bother more people.

The idea that you put behind this is basically that unless you go to korea or practice the korean way you will never be good. Of course thats a generalization of the idea, but I'm just sick of this and I expect more from a team that genuinely seems interested in being a top tier competitor. Look at every sport the US competes in. Literally, every sport. Do track/soccer/football/basketball/baseball/swimming/archery/cycling/fencing/volleyball (etc...) athletes that come from U.S.A. sit at home half assing their practice and wax poetically about how if they were in ______ (insert country here) they would be soo much better? No, they absolutely do not. They practice their ass off WHERE THEY ARE, developing new techniques and learning off of like minded individuals. They know they will get better not because of where they are but because they have dedicated themselves to doing so.
Starcraft pros continue to basically use where they practice as a crutch to their success. This is simply not the case, but a mere excuse and a pathetic one at that.
I do plan to follow this EG team house with great interest. I think if their is any one individual who recognizes this it is incontrol. He knows this house could be just what it takes to push EG's skills into that "korean level." I wasn't a fan of his at first and I still don't think hes the greatest, but I know he WILL work at it and I only hope his enthusiasm and dedication is contagious to those of you who live outside Korea believing the thing that is holding you back is not living there.

And yes, I fully expect no one to agree with me. It's the easiest thing to do.

/rant
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