EPTSheth not returning to Korea from NASL - Page 30
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
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littlejunior
Brazil50 Posts
I think to be in Korea was a dream to Sheth. And wen he reach´s that dream, he just quit? Like that? Two weeks and someone leaves a life´s dream? Something is not right in here. Really sad to read that.  | ||
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
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r_con
United States824 Posts
On July 12 2011 03:35 Redlol wrote: Statements like this reek of ignorance. Lets get the Koreans in America, training 10+ hours a day surrounded by people who don't speak their language, and several thousand miles from their families and see how many of them last for a long period of time. The statement that "foreigners" don't have the dedication/sacrifice is stupid, what have the Korean's sacrificed while being able to stay close to home? You can look at TLO's pro-gaming house, and EG's upcoming gaming house(and bootcamp) to see that foreigners have the same dedication, and when a bunch of Koreans are coming across the ocean and living here for months we can compare the levels of sacrifice, but only then. No, doesn't compare. Tell me that when a foreigner can take down a major tournament. And we don't have the same level of dedication. They don't need to come here, because they are winning, they have sacrificed plenty to just get to the level they are at. Once the "average" sponsored progamer from the west doesn't get crushed by code B players from korea your point will be valid. Because only the best of the best of the western world can even compete with code A-B. And most of our top top players just get crushed by code S players. And sheth was in a progaming house with people who all spoke english, this is perhaps the best situation he could have hoped for to advance his progaming career. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
what do you care if he stays or not, it is HIS decision and neither of you knows him well enough to tell he's making a mistake. maybe it's all too much for him? we dont know! also: Should San Still be in Code A? of course not?? sheth got kicked OUT of GSL by PLAYING (and unfortunately losing last of) his games, remember? he didnt go to san *oh yeah imma take your spot and then forfeit my games. durp* good luck whatever you'll do, sheth  grab a beer with me if you play at IEM cologne. | ||
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P0ckets
United States430 Posts
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ROOTdrewbie
Canada1392 Posts
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
I'm not going to do anything more than rant about it on an internet forum and I know he's a nice person and all, but he's lost a lot of respect from me as a professional player. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
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JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
On July 12 2011 04:12 fourColo wrote: Why should anyone need to respect his decision? I don't think I'll ever be able to respect someone who turns on their them when they need him. He's definitely a strong FXO players and they're going to have a harder time without him. Plus, how must it feel for the rest of FXO in Korea with him leaving? They are (were) all in the same boat. They all make sacrifices but they don't all quit. Glad to read someone's post who shares the same opinions regarding TEAM SPIRIT. <.< Team comes first, before your needs. -_- | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On July 12 2011 03:35 Redlol wrote: Statements like this reek of ignorance. Lets get the Koreans in America, training 10+ hours a day surrounded by people who don't speak their language, and several thousand miles from their families and see how many of them last for a long period of time. The statement that "foreigners" don't have the dedication/sacrifice is stupid, what have the Korean's sacrificed while being able to stay close to home? You can look at TLO's pro-gaming house, and EG's upcoming gaming house(and bootcamp) to see that foreigners have the same dedication, and when a bunch of Koreans are coming across the ocean and living here for months we can compare the levels of sacrifice, but only then. Right, because the results of tournaments show that right? What your biased brain fails to comprehend is that Koreans go through the exact hardships you described. You do realize that living in a prohouse and training 10 hours a day entails not seeing your family whether you're foreign or Korean? At best they'll see their family on weekends, but you act as if every night they enjoy a home cooked meal from mommy. And also, SK is a small country, but that doesn't mean the entire country is within walking distance. Stop trying to make foreigners out as having some tough life full of hardships. You fucking make me puke. As if going to another country and having your room and board paid to play VIDEO GAMES is a third world life. | ||
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Redlol
United States181 Posts
On July 12 2011 03:54 JiPrime wrote: First of all, I AM Korean and lived there for a decade, so I at least know what the general ideals of them, and second, I actually know one of them in person, but I won't name it here since my reputation is here is... not that great. We have this kind of "American Dream" where a poor Korean becomes successful and return triumphant after moving to a foreign country. So yeah, at least we'll stick around longer, at the very least. I wasn't aware of that attitude, and it does make sense. However, until we actually see the Korean's really sacrificing then Mr. Chae's statement is still just inflammatory without anything backing it up. On July 12 2011 04:17 Ocedic wrote: Right, because the results of tournaments show that right? What your biased brain fails to comprehend is that Koreans go through the exact hardships you described. You do realize that living in a prohouse and training 10 hours a day entails not seeing your family whether you're foreign or Korean? At best they'll see their family on weekends, but you act as if every night they enjoy a home cooked meal from mommy. And also, SK is a small country, but that doesn't mean the entire country is within walking distance. Stop trying to make foreigners out as having some tough life full of hardships. You fucking make me puke. As if going to another country and having your room and board paid to play VIDEO GAMES is a third world life. You aren't accounting for the fact that moving to a foreign country is a massive change, and one that some people can't deal with. Seeing your family or not, being surrounded by people where you require a translator outside of the house is a big deal. It's not a 3rd world life, but it's also harder than you realize because a ton of foreigners have mentioned it being difficult. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On July 12 2011 04:09 P0ckets wrote: Sheth is a top foreign player and can easily win many of the 1,000-15,000 dollar tournaments that are popping up through out the foreigner scene more easily than attempting to win Code A or Code S, while still making a salary from FXO or some other top team, all be it not a large one. I mean since Idra left the GSL he has made 10,000 dollars in major tournaments winnings( not all 1st ), which is pretty impressive. He probably has also won some other things that have paided out as well. So the Korean scene isn't the only option to make bank Are you kidding me? He has won NOTHING major and as seen on GSL he is far, far, away from competing for the top prize in any big tournament. Korea was his best chance to improve and he blew it because he didn't like the living conditions. If you're a progamer, you better keep at it and this is an example of why foreigners will never be as good as Koreans. Their worth ethic is terrible. | ||
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JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
On July 12 2011 04:18 Redlol wrote: I wasn't aware of that attitude, and it does make sense. However, until we actually see the Korean's really sacrificing then Mr. Chae's statement is still just inflammatory without anything backing it up. Hwangsin moves to itsGosu team http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=3175519 Rain joins team Fnatic http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=2922960&page=3 Yeah I don't see any Koreans making the sacrifice... <.< | ||
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
http://www.sc2earnings.com/ Why can't I find sheth on the first page? Oh because it's not actually that easy. | ||
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P0ckets
United States430 Posts
On July 12 2011 04:21 StyLeD wrote: Are you kidding me? He has won NOTHING major and as seen on GSL he is far, far, away from competing for the top prize in any big tournament. Korea was his best chance to improve and he blew it because he didn't like the living conditions. If you're a progamer, you better keep at it and this is an example of why foreigners will never be as good as Koreans. Their worth ethic is terrible. Your just hater. I guess the only way you measure skill is by winning a tournament not beating individual players over and over again. Also he has won/placed will in several tournaments just not any of the major ones if you happened to check his liquidpedia page. I mean most of IdrA's winnings are from 2nd or 3rd places. | ||
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Redlol
United States181 Posts
On July 12 2011 04:24 JiPrime wrote: Hwangsin moves to itsGosu team http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=3175519 Rain joins team Fnatic http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=2922960&page=3 Yeah I don't see any Koreans making the sacrifice... <.< How long have both of them been living in a foreign country since making that change? | ||
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storm44
1293 Posts
On July 12 2011 04:09 P0ckets wrote: Sheth is a top foreign player and can easily win many of the 1,000-15,000 dollar tournaments that are popping up through out the foreigner scene more easily than attempting to win Code A or Code S, while still making a salary from FXO or some other top team, all be it not a large one. I mean since Idra left the GSL he has made 10,000 dollars in major tournaments winnings( not all 1st ), which is pretty impressive. He probably has also won some other things that have paided out as well. So the Korean scene isn't the only option to make bank That is not true..the whole idea that foreigner tourneys are easier is false since Koreans just come over and win and if Sheth can't win in America then he would have been better off in Korea which would have turned him into beastmode. You guys remember that one of the reasons Idra left Korea was to play in the NASL which he though would be easy money but Koreans completely dominated that tourney and how much did Idra get?? 0 dollars while if he stayed in Code S he would have got a lot more money. | ||
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JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
On July 12 2011 04:29 Redlol wrote: How long have both of them been living in a foreign country since making that change? From the best of my knowledge, they don't speak English very well, or have never really lived in a foreign country. | ||
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