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Keep the mindless hate from this thread. A well argued post is fine, frothing-at-the-mouth hate is not. | ||
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TheBaker
Netherlands15 Posts
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
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short
Sweden148 Posts
On July 09 2011 19:31 TheBaker wrote: could someone maybe post an updated version of the grand final brackets? The NASL Website hasn't even updated them I see you have not yet found the awesomeness that is liquipedia. They almost always do a far better job at updating than the tournaments. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League_Season_1#Main_Bracket | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
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himftw
Netherlands1 Post
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turkit
Ireland67 Posts
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holyone
Portugal43 Posts
I was thinking in paying if not just to see the finals in HD but honestly after one game i made my mind to not doing so. All big tournaments i've been on (im a quake 3 / quakelive player) where bo3 / bo5 (so that ain't an issue) but we always had double elimination. It's inconceivable to have this kind of layout on such a big tournament. I don't like the Korean leagues beeing single elimination either and imho it should evolve to double elimination. The sound and camera problems i can look the other way but i find it funny that the games had no health bars on them and everyone was going "AHHHHHH OHHHHHHH" and i was like "How the hell do they know the HP left on that?" You guys should have had a couple hours of "debug" streaming with some players playing so you could grasp all (or at least some ) of the problems you could have had. More user input --> faster debug of the problems. Take made such a wonderfull tournament. Not wanting to be this entrepreneurial made HSC 3 so good and "cozy". But that's hes own style. Question: Why do you have to make something equal to the korean style? How about creating your OWN style? Now that i would love to see. In the end im just disappointed, i had great expectations for this GL next season! Hope to buy a ticket :D PS: Love the tiny "boxes"... | ||
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OneStepAbove
United States45 Posts
On July 09 2011 19:51 himftw wrote: You guys should stop hating so much. They just underestimated what it would take running a tournament. I'm sure tomorrow will be better. The problem is, they have been over promising, and under delivering all season long. Stream problems, poor production, not delivering matches, no replays (even to people who forked over $25), poor tournament format, etc, etc. When you compare it to IGN's IPL...it's like night and day. IGN/IPL is an organization deeply rooted in eSports, and it shows. They didn't come along trying to act like some prestigious "star league" entitled to our money. They just rounded up some great players and casters, and did an amazing job (Free HD, Free Vods, Free Replays, Reruns, Better production, no hiccups, are constantly improving, etc). With an attitude like that, I would gladly purchase any kind of premium package IPL offers because I see them acting in good faith. I bought the NASL HD pass mostly to support eSports, but in reality -- they are just a business, not a group of passionate gamers trying to bring something great to the community. GOTMV can take the corporate approach, (which I gladly pay for), because they actually deliver. And just to clarify once again, my main "issue" isn't the actual little problems (albeit annoying), but more so their attitude. Compare to organizations like IPL and MLG. Now those guys have my respect and support for the little things they do. Sundance gets major props for listening to community feedback so thoroughly, and acknowledging his shortcomings (dallas) and making them right (and frankly, going beyond the call of duty when doing so). Oh well, hopefully Duncan & associates can take what they have learned and make a better impression in season 2. Cheers. | ||
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mipeirong
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JediGamer
United States656 Posts
On July 09 2011 20:11 OneStepAbove wrote: The problem is, they have been over promising, and under delivering all season long. Stream problems, poor production, not delivering matches, no replays (even to people who forked over $25), poor tournament format, etc, etc. When you compare it to IGN's IPL...it's like night and day. IGN/IPL is an organization deeply rooted in eSports, and it shows. They didn't come along trying to act like some prestigious "star league" entitled to our money. They just rounded up some great players and casters, and did an amazing job (Free HD, Free Vods, Free Replays, Reruns, Better production, no hiccups, are constantly improving, etc). With an attitude like that, I would gladly purchase any kind of premium package IPL offers because I see them acting in good faith. I bought the NASL HD pass mostly to support eSports, but in reality -- they are just a business, not a group of passionate gamers trying to bring something great to the community. GOTMV can take the corporate approach, (which I gladly pay for), because they actually deliver. And just to clarify once again, my main "issue" isn't the actual little problems (albeit annoying), but more so their attitude. Compare to organizations like IPL and MLG. Now those guys have my respect and support for the little things they do. Sundance gets major props for listening to community feedback so thoroughly, and acknowledging his shortcomings (dallas) and making them right (and frankly, going beyond the call of duty when doing so). Oh well, hopefully Duncan & associates can take what they have learned and make a better impression in season 2. Cheers. Although I agree with a lot of what your saying... you think because you supported esports (WHICH IS GOOD)- that you have some kind of divine unbiased hero-opinion. Hey I supported esports with cash now I can claim every person in NASL was in it for the business only. How bout a lot of people are in it for the love of sc2 and a lot of the people who took responsibilities skimped and cut corners. | ||
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
The next two days better be pretty close to perfect if there's going to be any chance of my renewing my Premium for next season. At the very least I expect some Sundance @ Dallas level groveling (if it is then followed by vast improvements, like Columbus). | ||
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hXc Chris
United States25 Posts
If anybody believes this league is not run by a bunch of greedy little children that saw how well all the other tournaments were doing, and just wanted a piece of their pie...YOU ARE DELUSIONAL. | ||
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Dzerzhinsky
Scotland327 Posts
Its all these little things that keep you from enjoying the event as much as you might. But of course it's all irrelevant if the games themselves are amazing, and so if I was given one wish it would be to bring in a loser's pick for the maps instead of having them pre-set. It'd be much more interesting to watch and maybe we'd get to see the odd set go to 2-1 instead of 2-0 plus additional dead air. | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
On July 09 2011 20:58 Nimic wrote: I'm still giggling over "that wasn't a commercial, that was a sponsor". The next two days better be pretty close to perfect if there's going to be any chance of my renewing my Premium for next season. At the very least I expect some Sundance @ Dallas level groveling (if it is then followed by vast improvements, like Columbus). Kind of funny, when it wasn't even a sponsor message (Like sponsorship on TV works in Sweden). A sponsor will get presented as supporting the show before and after, not run ads in the middle of it. | ||
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HiTeK532
Canada171 Posts
It feels like they just cut back on the quality of everything in order to have as many games as possible. | ||
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Pipeline
Sweden1673 Posts
On July 09 2011 20:11 OneStepAbove wrote: The problem is, they have been over promising, and under delivering all season long. Stream problems, poor production, not delivering matches, no replays (even to people who forked over $25), poor tournament format, etc, etc. When you compare it to IGN's IPL...it's like night and day. IGN/IPL is an organization deeply rooted in eSports, and it shows. They didn't come along trying to act like some prestigious "star league" entitled to our money. They just rounded up some great players and casters, and did an amazing job (Free HD, Free Vods, Free Replays, Reruns, Better production, no hiccups, are constantly improving, etc). With an attitude like that, I would gladly purchase any kind of premium package IPL offers because I see them acting in good faith. I bought the NASL HD pass mostly to support eSports, but in reality -- they are just a business, not a group of passionate gamers trying to bring something great to the community. GOTMV can take the corporate approach, (which I gladly pay for), because they actually deliver. And just to clarify once again, my main "issue" isn't the actual little problems (albeit annoying), but more so their attitude. Compare to organizations like IPL and MLG. Now those guys have my respect and support for the little things they do. Sundance gets major props for listening to community feedback so thoroughly, and acknowledging his shortcomings (dallas) and making them right (and frankly, going beyond the call of duty when doing so). Oh well, hopefully Duncan & associates can take what they have learned and make a better impression in season 2. Cheers. I agree with you. I have one thing to add though: Why on earth do organisations get away with saying "This is our first event, bla bla unexpected this and that bla bla" when you work with a industry as big as Esports. Damn it, learn from each others mistakes instead of failing massively. Dreamhack had their issues last year with sound and they fixed it for the previous summer event. MLG had catastrophic technical issues with their Dallas event, even GomTV had their issues at the start. So my question to NASL is this: Why haven't you gathered information and help from other big tournaments to avoid similar problems and issues?! P.S It's shameful for me as a spectator to see a player who travelled across the entire world get knocked out in two quick 10 minute games in a bo3, shame on you NASL. SHAME! | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On July 09 2011 20:16 mipeirong wrote: So many North Americans in the North American Star League o_O i find it funny how its more international than the GSL, yet its called NA league, while GSL is global sc2 league, typical america | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2590 Posts
On July 09 2011 19:38 Vei wrote: I hope there are no sound imbalances tomorrow, it ruins it completely.. Careful. Folks don't take kindly to imbalance whine around here. | ||
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reneg
United States859 Posts
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Elite__
Canada976 Posts
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